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They're moving along quite slow.

So glad there are elk in Falls Church now-- as I lived there in the past. lol

Wonder how many whisperers there really are, and in how many locations?

Seems the only way they do things anymore.

Good evening everyone!

Spoiler: Article with short detailed synopsis of the rest of S9 episodes. https://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/2019/02/10/the-walking-dead-season-9-spoilers-episode-descriptions-snow-blizzard/.

Once I got to the article, and unblocked my filtering and ad blocker.. I could watch the clip right on the article page. Also, at the bottom of the video, it had a "watch on YouTube" link, so I saved it with my other TWD videos. But, if talk about the general whisperer talk on last week's show forum (Omega)... you can't speculate about anything that wasn't in the show... including promo commercials for next episode that aired during the episode, and stuff from TTD, including the sneak peak video, You also can't mention the comics either, unless there's a totally different forum where all this can be talked about together?

Great clip. So if Michonne moved on and finished that, it must have been after Rick... so then, something really bad (worse than Rick dying?) must have kept her from moving forward with it. The "scar" incident? Something with having her baby? Not sure what we're allowed to discuss here? If we can discuss the contents of the clip and article? Have a good one. Getting ready for a big snow storm on Wed!

Thanks! Didn't know cast said that, but I don't find Alpha scary, at least as presented so far. I felt like when she stepped out before Alden and Luke, that that killed what was an absolutely great moment moments before.... when they looked around and saw the whisperers watching them in the fog. I really think there should be a lot more night and fog scenes, as the whisperers out in the open totally wiped out the mystery and moments that had been crafted. Loved that whisperer standing in the glade... the spell totally ruined by Alpha's clumsy charge with the arrow and gun. I heard the gun was her "signature" from the comics, but why show it so soon? I liked the slow mysterious build to the whisperers. Why rush Lydia's story, and have her "break" and give so much info so fast. What happened to the art of story-telling, growing things with a "slow burn"? Alpha is supposed to be a great, dark character, but the walk-up to the gate in broad daylight... say what? There have been "moments"... they just can't seem to turn them into an entire episode, let alone a season. I just can't understand it. I wonder what people who read the comics think? They were so eager for the whisperers.

I think the whisperers may be more of a throw-back to the Wolves, who lived in the wild, and didn't believe people/communities had any place in the new world order. I think the whisperers live out amongst the walkers, and roam where they do. I suspect they despise people in walled communities, as they likely feel that former society has devolved (or evolved, as the wolves felt) into a new "natural" order of the dead. Lydia kept saying how her mom said that they (their group) had to change to be like the current world, and she taught her how things would be from now. Also, they took our groups disguising themselves in emergencies with "guts" for walker protection... to the fullest extreme of always dressing like walkers to survive. Lydia also mentioned that her group took care of the walkers, since the walkers "took care" of them. A symbiotic relationship. I'd originally thought that big herd off in the distance during the final battle, was a "nod" to the coming whisperers... both their numbers themselves, and how daunting they'd be mixed in with walkers. There also seemed to be a whisperer watching Eugene, Rosita, and Daryl (when they kidnapped Eugene from the Saviors)... which begged the question of how so many years have passed without the group running into the whisperers before.

Wasn't the hook what Lydia used to attack Daryl? And, the keys, hanging right in the open elsewhere, were how Henry opened Lydia's cell.

I agree. They should've kept the whisperers more mysterious for a while. Let the terror grow gradually, as the group learned more about them. Love the graveyard scenes! Maybe had a few appear here and there; and not had the group discover the masks so soon. Or Lydia's story so quickly. I thought they had a great finish to the season, only to, as you say, have the whisperers come right up out in the open. Talk about killing any mystery they managed to create!

Oh, I like Alden. (He sings pretty well, too.) Luke adds humor, but no matter how many times they say he's a "survivor"; I don't see that he has any fighting skills. Kind of like a less-cowardly early Eugene.

So very true. I don't think most of them can defend themselves, not even the adults. And, yes, they shot a ton of bullets at the Sanctuary... and that was, what, 5 years before where we are now? So, likely some limits on bullets. Have a feeling there is going to be more hand-to-hand conflict with the whisperers. You think? They do seem to have background people, just not any main characters to which we have the slightest bond. Was kind of disappointed that the Tammy lady was back, as she didn't add much in the first half of the season. I'm hoping she's not becoming a main character. Seems to me, that instead of dragging out Rick's demise, and spending all that time at the camp/bridge in the first half S9... that maybe they should have brought the four new people in earlier, and maybe developed some other characters. That way, when the whisperers did show up, we knew some of the characters, and maybe even had some attachment to them. It's hard to care, when we hardly know anyone. I like Magna and Yumiko, and seems like there is a good backstory there; but perhaps they could've introduced them and their backstory in the first half season. What do you think? So many episodes about uniting the communities didn't really matter - at all - when they were going to do such a huge time jump afterwards. It made those early S9 episodes pretty much useless.

I think she has to be, as the entire whisperer storyline revolves around her. :) Boy, she is disliked by all. I wonder why they didn't get an actress with better looks. I always pictured Alpha (not read the comics though), as a "looker", despite wearing the masks.

I'm not sure what's going on, but I can't get your videos to play. None on this page will play for me, but perhaps it's just me!! :)

HI! 2-17-2019 Rewards Codes. (If anyone still does this!) TWD Code: OMEGA. TTD Code: DAUGHTER. Ride with NR Code: RIDEWITHRICK. Take care!

Agreed! Henry is too gullible, too young, and no real experience with the current world. The tension between Carl and Lydia would have been far superior. And Judith is still far too young to play any meaningful role in things.

True. Exactly why all-wise Carol wanted Daryl to be with him. Henry takes after his 2nd dad, who never fought much before the war. I suspect the Whispers have a lot more than 6 people, and in many locations. And, as they blend in and actually use the Walkers to the their benefit, how will you see them coming. I suspect Alpha is a super judge of character, like Carol (may even have watched HT before); and knows they won't shoot at them, when they have a baby. I wonder if HT actually has as many weapons/bullets as they say. The group that went into DC, a while back, used mostly hand fighting implements. Do we know how many guns the whispers have under their outfits? Also, with all the youth and children at HT--can they fight? Have they been trained? The farmers and such likely have no fighting skills. That's why they needed to be led and protected. Maggie and others trained them for the war, but many years have since passed. And, someone has to protect all the children. Hilltop has no idea if there are more whisperers in other locations. If they led a herd towards HT, there could be ramifications. HT would have walkers and whispers to fend off. When fighting previous groups, those groups had to watch out for walkers, too. The whispers have the luxury of not having to worry over walkers. Alpha didn't come to control all those people and keep them alive all this time without being intelligent, even if she's cruel and crazy... which is an even more dangerous combination. Underestimating the Whisperers and Alpha would probably bring their demise. I wonder if when Lydia said that groups couldn't make it behind walls, it was not only cause her original group didn't, but because the whispers didn't allow other groups to exist in camps/walls... perhaps even took them out. Agree! :) Daryl can probably relate to the whispers, more than anyone else--due to his pre-za background, and having lived out in the open these recent years.

LOL. You're right! Great catch!! I think they've gotten so lax and trusting, that they expect people to follow the rule. The group has forgotten the old days, and is "soft". Perhaps, that's the biggest threat from the Whisperers? Though, I suspect more is coming. Hilltop can't possibly believe that there will be peace with them, can they?

I don't think so. I thought they referenced having little to no guns, bullets and the necessary raw ingredients to make bullets. I thought Eugene was filling old casings with his powder during the AOW; but at some point, even old casings are gone/unusable. Time has taken a toll... on everything. I also think perhaps our groups have become soft, whereas the Whisperers have been living in the wild, surviving and killing the entire time. Our group is more focused on building a civilization. Doubt they train as much, and certainly not as a group working together... they're all spread out and don't even get along. Even the 4 new people were still living out in the world... though how they survived this long with slingshots and such... IDW. But, they were still alert all the time and fighting. The top two seem like skilled fighters. They keep saying Luke is a "survivor", but he didn't fight that well back at their old camp. I haven't seen his skills yet. Perhaps our groups, esp. Hilltop, have gotten lax, not only with fighting skills due to no real threats, but lax even watching out for threats. Though Daryl planned to watch Henry sneak Lydia out, no one else in the entire camp saw them walk out of the prison. It's like they trust the locked cell too much. The originals would not have (except when poor script writing allowed it), and would have had guards posted, people around... Also, so much of the population seems young, and it doesn't seem like they've gone to "Rosita's school of fighting" that the Alexandrians "attended". I think Rosita need to consider re-opening it. We've yet to see how bad the whispers are....

Couldn't agree more. I don't want to chase TWD all over the place. I'm not really interested in movies; or seeking back- or side-stories in other places. Even for Rick. Or Michonne. (I've not read the comics, but one could just get the whole story there... and get it much better.) I wish they'd just have let Rick die and finished off his character, since he was leaving. Not trying to milk extra revenue/publicity off movies. If you can't finish it or do it in the main show... I'm just not that interested anymore! I'm not into crossovers, either. (And particularly where they're crossing to!) It's not like it's the same show anymore anyways. They killed the original magic. The "family" is gone, and going. They're telling the original storylines with other characters who I don't like as well. When I watch the show now, it's tolerating a whole new different show. Do they really think the original fans are going to follow the characters into movies and more? (And what's with only the X-finity viewers getting extended versions of the episode. I don't have it.) I wouldn't be surprised if movies crashed and burned. Do they honestly think they can drag new viewers in? With all the other choices out there? Brutally honest, am I. But, honest! :)

Wow! Just when I was beginning to think I could possibly, maybe, kind of like TWD after Rick and Maggie's departure. I didn't watch any TWD after the mid-season finale. I was so so fed up, didn't like the story-line, un-certain of my desire to continue to watch the show. Then, I re-watched S9 leading up to the mid-season premiere, and thought... well. maybe it's not so bad. Maybe I could like the new direction. I did like the last episode. But now... Michonne, too?? Why???

Happy Belated New Year, Jingles! Sorry I missed you. Say hi to the gang in the FB group. And, to WT, if you know how to reach her! And, a most Happy New Year to you, OoohMaggie!! Bet you're missing Maggie. And to everyone else! :)

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