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What happens to Rachel’s hand??? Yikes. My 14 yr old DD had way more sympathy for Rachel than Leah. DD is a dancer so I suppose she relates more to that struggle than Leah’s boyfriend obsession. Rachel has the added pressure of having a twin who is gifted academically so it makes sense that she would need diving to feel special. Who do we think the remaining operative is? I suspect Nora because she is so smart and is desperate to save her sister. Maybe she thinks this is going to be empowering? Otherwise maybe Dot? She did mention watching all the survival shows.
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I just started watching this with my 14 yr old daughter. We both really enjoyed the first episode. I kind of expected that the crash was probably engineered by the Dawn of Eve people (having seen similar shows in the past) but it blew my DD’s mind. This will be fun to watch with her. DD could not stand Leah. Although she sees her as a victim she can not understand her continued obsession with the boyfriend. I think I am a bit more forgiving but DD gags every time the relationship comes up. As for the rest of the girls, so far we find Fatin, Shelby, Martha, and Dot to be the most likable. Toni is pretty obviously going to be nicer under her rough exterior. I was surprised by Jeanette’s death, especially because she was an operative for the group. It will be interesting to find out what went wrong. I think this show will be fun. It sort of reminds me of the show where people were kidnapped and put in that hotel in an empty fake town in Mexico. (Persons Unknown?)
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I'm still not over this. I was never the biggest Logan fan. He was extremely flawed in seasons 1-3 and now he's suddenly perfect. Meanwhile, Veronica has not grown at all since her teen years and is maybe behaving more recklessly (the drug use does not resemble early VM at all). For some reason Logan is desperate to marry her (even though she's a huge mess) and Veronica resists (and toys with cheating) until she almost dies and suddenly realizes she can't live without him? Then to kill Logan on their wedding day, with one final bomb (from the not-so-smart pizza guy?) was just so CHEESY. You know it's bad when you don't even feel sad about the character's death, just mad at the writers for making it so stupid. Logan leaving Veronica would have made so much more sense. Veronica still could have taken off and gone on the road and had new relationships and given RT the spin-off of his fantasies. I am not sure about a season 5 with Veronica off somewhere else. The strength of VM (like iZombie) was always the cast and interaction of the characters, the relationships. Veronica on her own is not as interesting and the town of Neptune is as much a character as Logan, Wallace, Weevil, Dick, and Keith. I mean, even Murder She Wrote was better when Jessica was in Cabot Cove and not meeting with her publisher in New York or at some distant niece's wedding out west.
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S07.E20: 'Til DeAth Do Us Part
lorikauai replied to ElectricBoogaloo's topic in Pretty Little Liars [V]
Mona was imagining that while looking in her snow globe. Honestly they should have had the whole show be Mona's imagination considering how ridiculous the plot became. I know it's hackneyed, but so is every other plot line on this show. -
S07.E20: 'Til DeAth Do Us Part
lorikauai replied to ElectricBoogaloo's topic in Pretty Little Liars [V]
So basically all 4 girls end up with their abusers? How romantic. The evil twin plot was so incredibly stupid. I have seen this done a million times better on daytime soap operas, probably because soap writers actually write long arcs that make sense. They don't just toss out a bunch of clues and red herrings and then try to figure out how to tie it together later. Like others, I thought the finale made it even more clear that Wren was supposed to be A instead of Cece/Charlotte/Charles. This show had so much wasted potential. The first 2 seasons were pretty solid, but when they stopped using the books as a general guide the writers got lost. I was angry about the show revealing Toby and Ezra as A and then taking it back. Toby had legitimate reasons to want revenge and Ezra was a creepy stalker/statutory rapist. However, the show really jumped the shark when it brought back Ali from the dead and took away everything that made her entertaining. I can't think of anything interesting that happened because of Ali's return. It made the show so much worse. -
The "elite team" moms have zero self awareness as usual. I rolled my eyes at them complaining about the mini moms arguing amongst themselves. Really? Because they are so above that? Also they need to not act like their daughters are above dancing with the minis. An advanced dancer dances with anyone, even a beginner, without worrying about how they look or what they "win" at a fake competition. There is plenty to be learned by leading a younger dancer in a duet.
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I finally watched this on my DVR. I expected to hate it. I hate this type of show. I hated Parenthood, which I guess a lot of people loved (still don't understand), but I enjoyed this. I read nothing about this show and did not predict the twist. I am glad the "us" are actually related and not brought together by fate *gag*. I usually hate anything sappy or sentimental so we'll see if I stick with it, but I was engaged through the whole first episode and set it to record next week.
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They are pretty. I wasn't bored. That's good enough for me for a premiere. I will watch again and see where it goes.
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This show reminded me of Matlock (yes I'm that old). Pompous but charming main character (MW needs to work a little more on the charming part but I think he can deliver). Wealthy, but (almost) always innocent client. Murder always solved by the lead. The jury analysis is the twist that makes it different. I thought they tried too hard with the jurors talking to the camera (like early Sex & the City) and I bet they'll drop that quickly. The cancellation of Mysteries of Laura left a fluffy mystery hole in my TV schedule that this might fill. I expect it will improve a bit. I loved seeing Frederick Weller on my screen. Oh how I've missed Marshall Marshall Mann.
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I enjoyed it. The cast is great and the premise is interesting enough to keep me watching the next few episodes.
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I agree that the pineapple is probably not significant. It was Christmas and they and were tired (maybe drinking?) and left food out. Patsy was apparently so tired that she fell asleep in her clothes so I don't find it odd that she forgot to put food away. I can imagine JonBenet waking up and coming downstairs and finding the pineapple. My 6 year old has done this. In any case, I highly doubt it's Burke. If he had struck her with a flashlight and killed her, why would the parents cover it up by staging a sexual assault, making a garrote, and writing a rambling ransom note? That makes no sense. Why not claim she fell down the stairs or just get rid of the body? That's what most people would do to cover up a murder. Sure, it's possible, but it's certainly not likely.
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I was laughing so hard at Ian's "I can do it, I just don't want to." He reminded me so much of my kids in that moment. Me: You need to learn to tie your shoes Kid: I can tie my shoes, I just don't want to Me: You need to tie your shoes because you are going to trip Kid: I like them untied, but I can tie them Me: Okay, if you can tie them, then do it Kid: Well, I could, but I'm not going to Me: See, you can't tie your shoes
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Here's the way I interpreted the 911 call - Patsy calls in a panic, she puts down the phone when a sleepy Burke wakes up and having overheard about the ransom note, asks, "What did you find?" John and Patsy try to get him out of the situation and decide to call friends to help with Burke. The "Help me Jesus!" makes more sense with "What did we do?" (as in what did we do to deserve this?) or "What do we do?" (as in requesting guidance from God) rather than "What did you do?" In any case, they sound legitimately panicked to me. I do think this group is trying to point the finger at the family and interpreting the evidence to fit that scenario. Isn't that exactly what the police did at the time? Henry Lee seemed like he was the only one not going into this assuming it was the family. I was offended by the "friend" who was cut off by the Ramseys. She was upset that obviously heavily medicated Patsy saying, "Keep your children close!" scared her daughter? What the heck is wrong with her? Patsy's daughter was murdered. It's not about you.
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S07.E10: The DArkest Knight
lorikauai replied to ElectricBoogaloo's topic in Pretty Little Liars [V]
Oh God, that was bad. That was really, really bad. I thought I had mentally prepared myself for the awfulness considering the shit show that was the Charlotte/Charles/A reveal but no. So Noel was involved with the dollhouse and torturing the girls because he didn't get what he wanted, but he didn't bother to tell us/the Liars what he wanted? WTF did he want? To date Aria? A date with Aria is not that exciting. Trust me. Wasn't he helping Ali when she was "dead"? Why didn't he just tell Charlotte where she was? Or Jenna, if Jenna is so determined to kill Ali? And Jenna taught him to smell fear? How exactly did she conduct these lessons? And he managed to fall on an axe at the right angle and with enough force to cleanly cut off his head? When Jenna turned out the lights and said, "Now you see like I do!" I really, really wanted one of them to say, "Actually there is quite a bit of ambient light in this room and we can still see pretty well." How hard is it to hide from a blind woman ladies? Why was Mary Drake creeping around the house but she didn't bother to shout out a warning to her "daughter" that it was a trap? Ali: I'm bored and lonely and you're easy, so come over and kiss me Em. Why has Toby not lost his drivers license yet? The man is in a ridiculous number of car crashes. Obviously he's not dead but it doesn't look good for Yvonne. Caleb and Mona tailing "Jenna" continue to look way too comfortable together. Maybe a little something with her between Hanna and Spencer? It would not surprise me considering how quickly he bounces from one woman to another. So who is driving the van at the end? It can't be any of the main 5 or Toby/Yvonne or Mary Drake or Jenna. It is probably not Mona or Caleb or Ezra since they were seen elsewhere. Who does that leave? Melissa, Wren, Jason, Mr. D, Lucas, Paige, Sydney?, Sabrina lol, some dead person who isn't really dead, anyone else? -
LOL I just realized the way Marlene talks about the show reminds me of Donald Trump talking about everything. It's going to be great! The most romantic season ever! All the questions will be answered! Fans love my twists! My twists are the best! (Before I get ripped apart, this is not a political commentary, and I don't have any interest in discussing politics or going off topic) I really want this show to end with the girls coming together and solving the mystery without the villain just revealing him/herself. I want a happy ending that is not based on romance. I'm sick of the show perpetuating the idea that the key to happiness is being with your soulmate.