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    In Memoriam: Entertainment Industry Celebrity Deaths

    in Everything Else TV

    11 hours ago, HazelEyes4325 said:

    Not a surprise and he lived a full life, but still sad.

    George HW Bush spoke at my college commencement.  It was actually one of his more famous post-presidential speeches as it was where he announced he had left the NRA and called them all Jack-booted thugs.  I will always remember when all of us graduates assembled at the Wren Building to begin our march across campus to W&M Hall (where commencement actually happened) and he made a surprise appearance to give us all a pep talk, a more "personal" commencement speech, and a promise that he wouldn't talk too long.

    I didn't always agree with him, but I always respected him.  RIP Mr. President.

    That's kind of where I'm at as well. I respect his service to country, even though I didn't always agree with him, view point wise. RIP sir and thanks.

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    S11.E10: Beat the Press

    in Murphy Brown [V]

    · Edited by AntiBeeSpray

    20 minutes ago, Chaos Theory said:

    This is a very good show but people are tired of politics.  I thought it made very good points about the news and the damned if you do damned if you don’t need.  If you push too hard you risk angering people to the point of violence but if you don’t push hard enough you risk not telling the news at all.  

    And newscaster must be afraid of the world  we live in...the country we live in where they can be punched in the face so easily.

     

    Only it wasn't that kind of thing per say... angering people to violence. They were incited by [in show] President and by whatever Wolf News said as well. If any other news came out, remotely saying anything truthful... they'd call it fake. It makes telling the news at all, an almost impossible proposition. 

    But I do agree with you on the latter, that if you don't push hard enough, you risk not telling the news at all.

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    S11.E10: Beat the Press

    in Murphy Brown [V]

    · Edited by AntiBeeSpray

    23 minutes ago, Rowsdower said:

    Confusion has arisen due to ambiguous terminology used to report the facts, which actually are fairly simple:

    • This season (not the revival as a whole) had a predetermined length of 13 episodes, irrespective of viewership.
    • Additional seasons remain possible, but it's true that the show's Nielsen ratings performance has been unspectacular.
    • No official decision regarding cancellation or renewal is expected until the spring.

    Well put.

    Nielsen ratings are overrated in my opinion. They don't mean much. There are plenty of other shows that have similar ratings and we don't hear nearly as much about them being on the bubble.

    Yep... so honestly, it would be great if sites just stopped reporting on things that aren't even nearly the case until closer to spring. Having predictions be so far back in the season, only promotes hollow speculation and bad information being spread.

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    S11.E10: Beat the Press

    in Murphy Brown [V]

    3 minutes ago, theredhead77 said:

    The article doesn't say Murphy Brown is cancelled at all. It says the future is uncertain and was one of the few links I came across this AM (while looking for ratings) that didn't say it was cancelled.

    I know, but it's still clickbait (in my opinion) given the headline and how the article is slanted. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I don't like articles that do that.

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    S11.E10: Beat the Press

    in Murphy Brown [V]

    · Edited by AntiBeeSpray

    2 hours ago, theredhead77 said:

    Loved, loved, loved it. I teared up at Frank's fear, at Murphy's softballing, at the very real portrayal of the deep fear of violence for not believing what comes out of Fox that has entered our culture. The ability for critical thinking and discourse has left half the country and that's sad. This is something that happens in other countries. Truth.

    I would like to go to Avery and Frank's church to partake in the Holy Cannoli. 

    I'm a transplant from Los Angeles to f'in Georgia. I fear for my safety frequently and this show makes me feel not so alone. I'm very sad that MB may be cancelled (or was only intended to have a limited run) 

     

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/11/murphy-brown-cancelled-cbs-season-2-designing-women-political-tv

     

    Why am I not surprised? I'm ashamed of Vanity Fair spreading this. It's not anywhere near cancelled. As far as I'm concerned that article is clickbait. They just spreading more stuff about people being 'tired' of politically minded shows.

     

    1 hour ago, AriAu said:

    I loved the original because it knew how to deal with the topical stuff without being as heavy handed as this re-boot has been. This was topical and not at all balanced because while I have heard about reporters being threatened at Trump's rallies and there is that great video of the woman with the angry face and middle finger  https://qz.com/1345622/video-of-a-trump-rally-crowd-harassing-the-press-in-tampa/, but it really has not evolved to that level of violence against the press, even Trump's favorite target.im Acosta.
    I agree these are scary times, but this is a sitcom and not 60 Minutes, so somehow I think it needs to be softer and played more for laughs. YMMV

    I do like the relationships that Avery has with Frank and his mother. The "holy cannoli" scene being a throwback to Frank being there for him was really well done...and well played for the laughs..."our church???" And Murphy's line about "because they are a vegetable...duh" was perfect and actually perfect for the character.

    And why did they need Phyllis in this episode-is there something in Tyne Daly's contract since she was not needed. If I remember correctly, Phil wasn't in each episode.

    Edited to add

    Ummm, I think that would be a little different than this.

     

    Disagree on that. The situation they portrayed was not a funny one. And I don't think it would have been appropriate to have done so. It's not something to laugh at. It's very serious. And Murphy was never just a sitcom. It could be funny, sure... but it also could get very serious. It was a comedy, drama, and a satire. It's not just black and white, there are shades of grey there as well.

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    S11.E10: Beat the Press

    in Murphy Brown [V]

    · Edited by AntiBeeSpray

    12 minutes ago, UYI said:

    The part with Corky and the gun was SUPER awkward (although I liked when Miles asked her to walk him to his car), but I liked this episode a lot, it's certainly relevant to what the show is about.

    And of course Murphy likes Hoarders! :P (Unlike Avery, though, I could NEVER find myself sucked in to that show; it depresses and grosses me out too much. I'll stick to House Hunters, thank you.)

    Already looking forward to Murphy's hijinks with the cute puppy next week! :D 

    Yea it was, at first, especially. Definitely.

    Yep XD. Same here. I'll stick with that and some other reality tv instead.

    Word. That pup is adorable. :D

     

    3 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

    That was very difficult to watch.

    And it’s sad that that there are people who are that Stupid and. Ignorant.

    But I did love Murphy’s “because vegetables are good for you! DUH!!!” when Avery asked why frozen peas were better than ice. And there’s something about how she refers to Avery as “my Kid” that gives me the warm fuzzies.

    Avery did a wonderful job interviewing. 

    Yea it was. Almost teared up at points.

    Word. :(

    He definitely did. He's so much a chip off the old block.

    This episode stands up with some of the better ones in the old series, in my opinion.

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    S11.E10: Beat the Press

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    · Edited by AntiBeeSpray

    9 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

    I sympathize with Frank's fear about feeling safe nowadays.

    Loved the scene with Avery and Frank in the hospital, and the way he tried to defend him when talking to that lady. And I also liked Avery getting all into the "Hoarders" show :D. 

    Same here.

    Thought tonight's episode was very well handled and well done. Glad they went there, given things.

    And the comment that Corky made about her gun and her other thing... lmao XD. That was too funny.

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    FYI: This Just In: Murphy Brown in the Media

    in Murphy Brown [V]

    · Edited by AntiBeeSpray

    That's just clickbait at this point. Fox News clickbait (meaning the video). And the link, doesn't mean much either. There are plenty of other shows that have similar ratings, so wouldn't they be at similar risk? 

    To be honest though, I don't buy into or believe any of the bs. I trust the show runner. News coming from the horse's mouth, since she deals with those working at the network (so no, it's not 'in theory' -- as she works with the network). Not any talking heads, or those who run cancellation websites. They're basically odds makers, guessing/predicting what will be cancelled.

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    S11.E09: Thanksgiving and Taking

    in Murphy Brown [V]

    · Edited by AntiBeeSpray

    4 minutes ago, Sarah 103 said:

    No it wouldn't, you'd just have to rework this episode. You just get rid of most the first act. I don't need to see half an episode of kitchen disaster. You start the episode with the turkey in the oven. The scene where Frank is showing everyone the picture or video on his smartphone of the Turkey at his sister's would work as a good place to start the episode.

    Murphy: Well how was I supposed to know that turkey took that long to cook? I was trying to do something nice for my son. Between his schedule and mine, it's not every year we get to have Thanksgiving together as a family. 

    Corky: I'm just glad we get to eat it. I know you spent a lot of money on it.

    Avery: 350 dollars. You've been talking about it since you orderded it. 

    Pat: You people wouldn't have this problem if you were vegan like me. (munches on vegan food). 

    This takes care of all the set-up that's needed. 

    Obviously you still have the scene in the food truck. Act 1 ends with Miguel's parents being arrested and by ICE. The second act is one of my ideas. I have no problem with them dealing with a serious issue. My problem is the way they did it. 

    Then take the time to write a fic about how you'd change it. That's the best we can do.  Fans of the X Files ended up doing that with some of the episodes to have them make sense. That train wreck (in my opinion) is far, far worse than what we've seen in Murphy Brown so far.

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    S11.E09: Thanksgiving and Taking

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    4 minutes ago, proserpina65 said:

    That might be it.  Maybe I'd feel differently if I watched it again.

    Same here. I think it was done for a reason, to bring in similar emotions to how those people felt when ICE came and raided their homes and businesses.

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    S11.E09: Thanksgiving and Taking

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    · Edited by AntiBeeSpray

    50 minutes ago, andipandi said:

    what stuck me about the newscast of the video, is candace's emotions seemed so very real. If she was acting, give her an emmy.

    Yea that was very well done. Wouldn't doubt the cast had friends/people who have dealt with similar situations.

     

    17 minutes ago, proserpina65 said:

    I know it was a long running subplot, and I didn't mean the parents' situation came out of nowhere to me.   I meant that the way the situation was handled in this episode was clunky and, imo, poorly written.  That's why my reaction was "Huh?", as in "they really couldn't have done better than that?", not "Huh?  Who are these people and why are they being arrested?".  I apologize for not expressing my thoughts better previously. 

    I think you're right - those people are unlikely to be watching a notoriously liberal show (and I mean that in a good way) to begin with.

    I kind of reacted similarly at first, but as the scene went on, it got better. I think it was more the transition than anything else.

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    S11.E09: Thanksgiving and Taking

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    1 minute ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

    Not only that, but it’s been a running subplot ever since Phyllis hires Miguel. We’ve known about his circumstances so this wasn’t something that was written at the last minute.

    Exactly. It's been there as a running thread for quite some time now.

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    S11.E09: Thanksgiving and Taking

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    1 hour ago, Chaos Theory said:

    I think Murphy was determined to do the whole thing by herself.  These sort of things are usually potluck.  Everyone brings something.  In this case I think Murphy got it into her head to cook Avery an old fashioned Thanksgiving meal even though she has never cooked before and that is among the hardest meals to cook especially on your own.   

    It was however funny having her call the turkey hotline.  That bit was hilarious.

    i am going to skip the I.C.E. Stuff.  I am still not sure how I feel about it.  I don’t mind politics in my comedy especially shows like this that double as political comedy....it was just so sudden that it felt.....sudden to me and I guess it through me.

    I think that's in part what they were going for. That those kinds of reports can happen all of a sudden and out of the blue. Just think about how any of those families feel when ICE shows up out of nowhere. Betting it would be a rather similar situation.

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    S11.E09: Thanksgiving and Taking

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    · Edited by AntiBeeSpray

    10 minutes ago, friendperidot said:

    I don't think they've ever had 30 minutes to do a half hour show, I think I read a long time ago, it was about 23 minutes, but that's still more than they have now.

    Good point, guess it was so good, that I forgot about the commercials. Yea, that little bit more time, gives them a bit more leeway.

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    S11.E09: Thanksgiving and Taking

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    · Edited by AntiBeeSpray
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    13 hours ago, shlbycindyk said:

    During one of the last seasons of the old Murphy Brown they had a Thanksgiving episode where Murphy and the gang tried to make a meal for the homeless at a shelter.  Of course it was a disaster and everyone left to go somewhere else to eat except for one homeless man.  It was a beautiful episode and really highlighted the plight of the homeless without being overly preachy.   It also highlighted the effects of alcoholism.  

    This episode could have done the same but it didn't.  Several years ago I worked with a group that helped illegals to get asylum and also helped them to get their greencards.  Once some of them get here they're treated like slaves and have no protection at all.  Because they're illegal they can't just call the police if someone robs them or does something worse to their family.  They can't get decent healthcare because again, they're here illegally.  People never seem to think about those things.  I could go on but I won't. 

    I am really trying to like this show because I loved it so much during it's first run.  The writing was sharp and the comedic timing was perfect.  This new version is absolutely nothing like the old version and it makes me sad.  

    Well it certainly helped that the old show had less commercial breaks. They have to do stuff with only 19 minutes available, instead of 23 (thanks to friendperidot for correcting me on that), that the old show had. Sure the writing was better back then, but here's the thing, the writers were younger, and sure the timing may have been better, the actors were younger.

    And there are some younger writers and actors on there now who are learning the ropes and are trying. I don't expect the show to be what it was then. Keeping that in mind, it doesn't have me feeling sad in the slightest. I'd feel sad if the show was complete trash, if the actors weren't trying and if they treated fans like dirt. That's the line in the sand for me.

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    S11.E09: Thanksgiving and Taking

    in Murphy Brown [V]

    1 hour ago, CatsAndMoreCats said:

    Murphy Brown has always been about sniping at the political regime.  It never pretended to be anything else.  Complaining about Murphy being too political suggests that the viewer doesn't understand the premise of the show.

    Exactly. That's what it always was, a political satire, along with a side of drama.

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    S11.E09: Thanksgiving and Taking

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    · Edited by AntiBeeSpray

    14 minutes ago, AdeleDazeem said:

    Sometimes, you hope a show will turn a corner and become what you'd hoped it would/could be. You keep watching, waiting, hoping.

    At first, I thought he sounded like Brian Posehn.

     

     I can relate on the turn a corner thing. It was that with s10 and 11 of the X Files. I kept on hoping and waiting for things to improve and they didn't. In fact, in some ways it got worse. But at least Murphy Brown (in my opinion), is nowhere near that point. There's still some hope there and still a reason for me to care about it.

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