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So hyped to see Jim in tonight's episode! I cannot wait. :)
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1 hour ago, Chaos Theory said:
Honestly I hate Will they/won’t they stories. Do or don’t. I liked shows like Castle because it was pretty evident that they were heading for a “will they” so I was willing to wait for them to get there. The X-Files likes to tease but never quite committed to Wii they or won’t they. If they had I would have been fine. They they to straddle both sides and that is what pissed me off in the end.
So this. I used to like Castle due to that. But then I didn't... for how things were going BTS. That really bled out into the show itself and made it uncomfortable to watch. It's too bad too since it used to be fun to watch. Exactly. And past a certain point it got to be annoying and insulting. S10 and 11 went back to that bs and honestly I was rolling my eyes at it more than actually enjoying a lot of it.
Choose a side and go with it. Enough's enough. That brings me to another thing -- teasing shippers and treating them like crap. I hated it back in the day and s10 was so bad there that I almost walked away from the show entirely. No one deserves to be bullied and gas lit. How can anyone have any fun watching a show when the people working for it, Fox, CC and so on are acting like pieces of work towards them? That may not be a tv trope, but that along side the will they/won't they bs just made the entire experience a bad joke.
Also add in the fact that the actors didn't seem to have much say in s11 (especially -- minus Glen's episode and his brother's). It was just what CC wanted went and honestly that blew up in flames if nothing else. The show worked in part thanks to what the actors brought to it.
10 hours ago, ganesh said:No, I really liked the classic episodes, but they worked because they were grounded by the actors.
Fair enough. I did as well. And I liked the ones towards the end. Basically any episode where the characters remotely felt like themselves. It's why I didn't care for who/what they were in s10/11 in CC's eps. They felt like mere shells.
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1 minute ago, ganesh said:
I could take it or leave it tbh, but I thought that the fans always liked the show because of Mulder and Scully and not the stories. That was the whole new thing at the time. It's the having both ways that was the problem.
Yea it is, but there are fans who liked the stories as well. Agreed. It worked a bit back then, but trying to go back to that bit the show in the butt. I cringed during s10 and 11 at times. There was no chemistry at points between M and S. CC had squeezed the last drop from it and left us with forced crap. That said, I appreciated the moments that didn't feel like that.
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Found a really nice interview he did with Vulture back in August: http://www.vulture.com/2018/08/joe-kenda-homicide-hunter-investigation-discovery.html
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Cannot stand Maggie. Both from last season and this. She gets on my nerves. Just like Negan. I can understand why she's doing what she's doing, but I still do not like her.
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On 9/14/2018 at 12:57 PM, ganesh said:
Carter said when he was pitching the show that he argued "adamantly against the leads becoming involved" because he didn't want it to be a show about will they or won't they.
Yep. And the gall... he said that he was FORCED to pair them together.
Frank Spotnitz said recently that Chris never wanted the characters to grow or evolve. And that goes with his (CC's) line of thinking that he was forced to have them together.
Thing is, at least for the most part, it made the show stronger for it. Heck even Frank knew that. I'm para-phrasing here, but he said this in 2016, that fans liked the show for the characters and not the scary stories (not all fans, just a general thing here). He had a better view of the show than CC ever did.
CC managed to run the show and its characters over. This includes Reyes.
On 9/14/2018 at 12:52 PM, Chaos Theory said:The same with Rita on Dexter. I think it comes down to the “How dare you make your husband come home to take out the garbage and tuck in the kids when he has more important things to do.” You can also add Skylar White by the way.
I actually liked this pairing and think it was the intention the whole time to pair them. I am fine when two partners remain friends but if they have the other kind of chemistry as well I am also ok with that. Like on Castle the romantic chemistry always worked and was probably always intended. That being said I am fine with none of the main characters of Criminal Minds hooking up even though it was originally intended for Reid and JJ to be a couple.
Only it wasn't. It came down to D and G's chemistry. That said, I liked it as well. CC is about the only show runner I've ever seen who's squandered chemistry as much as he did.
On 9/2/2018 at 9:11 PM, SmithW6079 said:Which is why I hated that Mulder and Scully from The X-Files became romantically involved instead of remaining friends who always had each others' backs.
To a point. CC even knew that it could only go so far. Yet he had to go back to that platonic well and managed to screw things up by wanting to have his cake and eat it too. Meaning having them break up, only be working friends who occasionally screw each other. Worked for s7 when it was new. Didn't in s11 when they had a son together and a history. Ugh.
That said, if I were a new fan, I would probably be a Noromo. Don't need to put up with 1013's, Fox's and CC's bs and game playing.
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10 hours ago, proserpina65 said:
Gary Oldman is still very much an A-list actor.
Yea. Just going by his behavior, more than anything else for what it's worth. Other guess I had in mind was Johnny Depp.
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*Fixing my July 2015 post about the innuendo from Fatal Fashion:
Perry: Ok... Della, call Ken.
He then walks away and as he does so, she looks at him with a small, satisfied smile on her face.
Della: I already have. ( Meaning she forgave him... and all's right in that regard >:) -- and in regards to calling Ken (missed that part of the scene, but it still has such double meaning there, very clever of the writers and of the actors! (the way that the scene was played was brilliant and that last bit of line delivery... said sooo much))
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On 9/18/2018 at 1:14 PM, ChromaKelly said:
All the sexual innuendos went right over my head when I watched Three's Company as a kid. It wasn't till later that I realized Larry was trying to get in every girl's pants, Mrs. Roper was just wanted Mr. Roper to do her, the whole Jack is pretending to be gay thing...
Ran into something similar with Perry Mason. It took me two times to catch a doozy in one of the movies.
SpoilerFrom the case of the Fatal Fashion (1991).
From a scene where Perry and Della are leaving the court house/police station...
Della: Well?
Perry: Well, what?
Della: You still haven't told me if you decided to take her case.
Perry: Della, there are thousands of very good attorneys in the city who would jump at the chance to defend a woman who is not only innocent but who could pay their fee without blinking an eye.
Della: But you have something that they don't.
Perry: What is that?
Della: A secretary, who'll find it very hard to forgive you if you turn this case down. (Oh... Della. You sly dog you ;). Using the no sex card lmao.)
Perry: (He shakes his head.) Della...
Della: Oh Perry... (She looks at him.)
Perry: Ok... Della, call Ken.
He then walks away and as he does so, she looks at him with a small, satisfied smile on her face.
Della: I already have. ( Meaning she forgave him... and all's right in that regard >:) -- and in regards to calling Ken (missed that part of the scene, but it still has such double meaning there, very clever of the writers and of the actors! (the way that the scene was played was brilliant and that last bit of line delivery... said sooo much))
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On 9/17/2018 at 7:28 PM, forumfish said:
As a little girl watching PBS, I thought "Viewers Like You" was the name of a corporation that supported the station.
I thought they meant that all viewers were like each other.
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14 hours ago, roamyn said:
Could it be a ‘Harry Potter’ actor? If true, of course. To me it sounds like ‘...franchise when he was younger” means a teen or early adult actor. (Tho Sean Connery is a good guess).
I was thinking Gary Oldman.
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14 minutes ago, slf said:
Scott Wilson, who played Hershel on The Walking Dead, has died at 76.
He said he decided to take the role of Hershel after his mother, who I think was in her 90s, read the script for the show and told him he should do it which is so cute. Rest in peace.
RIP sir :(.
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4 hours ago, Bastet said:
I hope they build a set for Murphy's office this time around, too, just for the return of her dartboard with the different things on it each week. That amused me as much as the revolving door of secretaries. I think the "Reserved For John Sununu" sign was my favorite, but other contenders include the Geraldo book signing advertisement, the naked woman mudflap, and some of the many parking signs. Just imagine the stuff she can put up there now. Two episodes without it, though, so they may not be bringing that back.
Oh heck yes. I miss that dartboard! It was a character all its own. :)
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30 minutes ago, ombelico said:
I still adore Candice Bergen, and it breaks my heart to say it, but unfortunately with age (and maybe as a result of her stroke ~10 years ago?) her speech patterns are slower and her delivery just isn't as sharp as it was the first time around. There are also definitely moments where it just feels like she's overacting, maybe due to the strain of trying to memorize the lines and get them out. The contrast is striking when you watch one of the old episodes on Antenna TV, followed by one of the new episodes. It may be an unfair comparison, and of course everyone changes and slows down as they get older, but it just doesn't feel fully like Murphy's "back."
Avery is definitely the best part now. Based on the strength of the character, I could honestly see an "Avery Brown" spinoff coming off of this revival, with occasional Murphy appearances, although I don't think that Diane English would be up for it long-term. But the Murphy-Avery dynamic is the new heart of the show, and also that's where Candice's acting seems to be the most natural now.
Tyne Daly as Phyllis was much better in this episode (not that she was given much to do on the first one, though). I think it's an interesting dynamic for her to acknowledge that she's not the natural bartender that her brother was, rather than just making her the female incarnation of Phil.
I have no real problem with it. *shrug* I'm fine with how she plays it.
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Just now, UYI said:
When it was revealed that Murphy wore her pajama bottoms behind the news desk, she cracked that word was that Charlie Rose often didn't even wear pants.
Oh I see. Thanks.
Was it right at the beginning of the episode? I came in a few minutes late.
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14 minutes ago, UYI said:
Some of it was a little awkward, but it got better (and funnier) as it went on. I liked it. And Ioved how obvious it was that SHS was NOT actually there in the room, lol (although I can't EVER see Miles having a crush on her; that was weird).
I LOVED the Charlie Rose joke--remember, that's a shot at their OWN network.
Next week Jim's back! Yay!
I didn't catch the Charlie Rose joke. What part of the episode was it in?
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14 minutes ago, AEMom said:
The hammered assistant fit right in with previous secretaries.
I really like Murphy and Avery together. They have great chemistry, and she will admit to him when she's wrong. In the past she would run roughshod over everyone. Now she has someone to call her on her shit. It's an interesting dynamic.
Definitely.
Word. Finally someone to call her out on stuff.
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4 minutes ago, Skycatcher said:
For me the preachiness was in Murphy's remarks in the press room. I applauded Avery's pulling her up short afterwards. From the time the news team pushed/barged past Phyllis into Phil's before she was even open to the end of the program it was all about Murphy's sense of entitlement.
Fair enough. I agree on that end. And at least she learned from it.
3 minutes ago, TomGirl said:Stilted is a good word for it. Everyone seems to be overacting and trying way too hard to be caricatures of their former roles, especially Murphy and Miles. Miles’ whimpering anxiety was kind of cute 20 years ago because he was so young, but it’s just annoying now. I also agree that the episode was preachy and unfunny.
All that said, I do like the new young characters of Avery, Pat and the new guy working at the bar. I just hope the oldsters settle down soon. At least, thank goodness, there were no hot flash jokes tonight!
Agreed in terms of Miles, but yet... that's Miles in a nutshell. Hopefully he'll simmer down some what, but I don't expect it to go away as it's a part of him as a character.
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2 minutes ago, Wanda said:
I doubt the intention was to humanize SHS, but that’s exactly what they did.
I can see what you mean in terms of her son talking with her. That, I wasn't a fan of.
That said, I can see where he was coming from by not walking out of the press briefing. Not letting the administration have their way. I don't think it was meant as preachy. I viewed it as her son reminding her of what she told him before. But I can see how it could be taken as such.
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It's only the second episode! Will and Grace took some time before everyone was full in the groove. Only part that I kind of rolled my eyes at was a Watergate joke that Miles did. Outside of that, I liked the episode.
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Word. I liked how Glen and Darin characterized them as well in s10 and 11.
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6 hours ago, cmahorror said:
45-yrs old and still have a flip phone. Why? Because I just need it to make calls and text - anything else I can do on my IPod. My only problem with my flip phone is the texting - it replaced my sliding keyboard phone which I loved and they don't make anymore.
I really enjoyed this episode. Murphy has always been a political show and I had no doubts that the revival wouldn't change that. Avery and her have a great chemistry and I enjoyed the fact that, while they are both starting new shows, both shows are different in their approaches. Avery is doing more of a man on the streets thing while Murphy's is a sit-down round table, more traditional show. I hope that they bring up secondary viewings (DVR and streaming numbers which can be calculated for days after the original airing) because that could significantly change who actually ha the higher share. I could honestly see people tuning in for Murphy live while recording or streaming Avery's and watching it later because she is a known quantity and he is not.
Word. I have a smartphone, but I don't use it for much else than a couple of games, texting and phone calls. I don't do anything fancy with it. I listen to music either on my laptop or on my ipod.
Yep. Word. It'll be interesting to see how things unfold there.
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Asia Argento. Go away. NOW.
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1 hour ago, ChocButterfly said:
She wasn't wallowing on her couch with a flip phone, she was actually going to marches and staying politcally active. She was out there in the real world, as opposed to pretending doing something worthy by wasting time writting silly tweets just to stay "current". Just because someone chooses not to engage in social media, doesn't mean they're less capable or confident than people who spend their time on it.
You don't have to be a grandma or a very old person to not care about Tweetter. She was very aware of Tweetter and how it all works, (as she demonstrated by her tweet and the # comment) but as she hadn't used it before cause she didn't care; it's realistic that she'd need someone who had the experience to help her set an account and have the initial navegation throught the app. That's not offensive at all. Actually, I find your post more offensive, insinuating that people who have flip phones and choose not to engage on Tweeter or IG are old, less than capable and out of touch. Some of us prefer to interact more in the real world, rather than a screen.
No way she would have been wasting her time argueing with that idiot on Tweeter. She got sucked into it by the end of the episode, just cause the circumstances brought her there, but I can understand why she'd rather not get involved into it from the begining. And she has stayed in the game, as was demonstrated at the begining of the episode, she was just coming from the Women's March.
Word. And as for her having a flip phone, I don't see why it is such a big deal. It fits her as a character to not care about technology. *shrug*
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"Oh HELL No!": TV Moments That Make You Irate
in Everything Else TV
· Edited by AntiBeeSpray
Hell No moments...
Reyes being reduced to a bad guy in X Files season 10 and 11. It made no sense and didn't fit her as a character as well.
CSM being brought back at all in the aforementioned seasons. Especially since he was blown up in 'The Truth'!
M and S being reduced to shells of who they were. Same goes with their relationship. And their son being pretty much evil. Ugh.
CSI basically throwing Gil/Sara shippers under the bus in one episode more than once (it was the one when Gil left Sara a note once they divorced iirc). It made me sick.
House leaving Cuddy and becoming a slut (sorry, but there's no better word for what he did). Hated it and still do with a passion.
When Cordelia became pregnant with Connor's child in Angel. Ugh.