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I was watching with my mom and friends and none of us thought the diamond was real. It’s possible he has a lot of disposable income since he lives with his mom and they seem to do Air B&B on the side, but still.

I think she was trying to get Conrad to say, “Omg, no, don’t go off with another guy! Let’s try again! I can’t live without you!”.

Jamie is stunning! She also has a great sense of humor. I am kind of glad that no one tried to hit on her on the boat because she could do far better.

So Hannah followed a guy into a locked room, tried to get him jealous over a hypothetical situation that involves her and some guy on another yacht, and then offered to give him head or sex when he clearly wanted nothing more to do with her? The desperation (with a possible whiff of sexual harassment), it reeks. I also could have done without the sound effects. Ew! Is there a reason Hannah couldn’t have gone to Prague alone? Had some fun and checked out the sites? She’s so ridiculous. I’m glad Conrad didn’t give her any money because she had to change her flight.

(Snipped for length) Thank you for explaining in such detail. I was curious as to why Jon was downplaying the seriousness of his crimes since it sounded like he should be in jail. I feel bad for baby Lucy the most. A parental figure who thinks nothing of solving issues with his fists is frightening. And I call bullshit on his explanation that he only got into fights because he was protecting the honor of women. He has a serious problem for which he either needs serious therapy and/or anger management.

I agree that Karine has a lot to learn about cleanliness. She’s not a child. Leaving shit everywhere is a sign of laziness. However, she has stated that Paul tends to turn away from her when she’s upset and I do think that’s something he could do better. It can feel cruel when a significant other isn’t responsive when one is upset. So while Karine can work on being tidy, Paul can work on better communicating. His first step should be learning Portuguese.

Karine honestly looks sick to me. Like, someone who is just plain exhausted. I don’t know if it’s the stress of life or her relationship that’s taking a toll, but before, she looked much lighter and happier. I hope she’s in a better place now.

He was definitely drunk. I think he had a few beers before his brother even started making his way to the restaurant. And then he left drinking a beer.

Yep! You can get them at craft stores and dollar stores. Many colors as well. Ximenia seems lovely and I kind of feel bad that she was the second choice. She seemed really excited to meet Ricky so I think she’ll let it slide that she wasn’t the first choice. I do think she’s crazy to travel that long to see a man she only knows through a dating app though and to stay at his place. I’ve watched too many Lifetime movies, I guess.

While I think Jesse is a jerk, I also think that Darcey doesn’t know how to just let Jesse be. Darcey should have just focused on her daughters and hanging out with them instead of trying to be right about how to cut the meat. Jesse should have kept his cool knowing that’s Darcey’s daughters were present. They both handled this very poorly. When one of the daughters hugged Darcey after the fight, I couldn’t help but think she’s probably had to comfort her mom many times over the years over guys.

I’m sorry, but Angela blaming Michael for why she snaps makes me feel like she could end up being abusive. That’s what abusive partners say...you made me upset, you made me snap, you made me yell. Very scary. I think Michael will do whatever he can to get to the US not realizing Angela is clearly broke. I want to hug Karine’s mom. She broke my heart when she cried in the bridal shop. What should have been a fun moment with her daughter ended up being emotional in a bad way. I think her mom is so stressed about Karine ending up unhappy and it’s so sad. Paul will never change. He’ll make promises to be kinder, but he’ll always be a dick. Her parents see this and that’s why they don’t want her to marry him. Even with all that said, perhaps the most uncomfortable moment for me was watching Tariq in a mesh shirt over a tank top.

I’ve seen some comments on Carole’s IG that have actually made me feel physically ill. I don’t know how celebs do it. There’s no way I would allow comments on my page the way some people can be so hateful. I saw one comment wishing death on her and I’m just like, really? Disgusting. It is never this serious.

Just because she had money doesn’t mean the emotional toll was nonexistent. I don’t think that’s fair to say at all. Money doesn’t absolve anyone of issues or sadness or frustration. I won’t begrudge anyone for having money for care - death sucks and that’s that really. Caregiver fatigue, even for the wealthy, exists. I’ll agree to disagree because it feels icky to me personally to criticize how any widow deals with her loss.

Well, I care. I still consider being on this show a job. After watching the extreme toll caretaking took on my loved ones, I cannot begin to criticize how Carole handled Anthony’s death before and after the passing. It’s a rough position to be in with almost no room for a break. Bless her.

This. I mean I guess bedazzled jeans are an accomplishment, but I’d take an Emmy over that any day. And it kind of bugs me that the show isn’t considered a “career” in itself. Carole was getting paid to be a television personality - that to me is legit. She’s also knocking on 60 - is it really that weird that she would prefer to wind down and focus on working on the show for the most part? I find it troubling that Carole’s career is being dismissed because it should be more about quality than quantity in my eyes.

Yes, Nene is rumored to have done the same. If true, she should have kept her legs closed, too. Her, Kim, Bethenny - they can all be the intended recipients of that message. It’s hard for a wife to be the past when Dennis was still married to her. I’m sure she oversaw the funeral arrangements and will have some hand in his estate. Bethenny may have been the current girlfriend, but the wife’s role as a spouse and mother to his kids shouldn’t be minimized. They clearly had some relationship if they were in regular contact prior to his death.

Lol. After - I think she said it a reunion to Kim Z. Regardless of when Nene said it, I still think Bethenny should have stayed her butt at home. I imagine she wouldn’t have taken it so kindly if a girlfriend showed up to her husband’s funeral...I am thinking an epic meltdown would occur in typical Bethenny fashion. Jill and Dennis remaining married doesn’t really surprise me. There are a lot of older estranged couples who live very separate lives, but can’t be bothered to divorce. Maybe because of the kids, the finances being too muddled, and/or an inability to let go. And they are perfectly okay letting the other take care of their affairs if they pass. It’s very interesting. I don’t think Bethenny would have legally become his wife.

I would hardly expect anyone to post scowling pictures with their friends. That would just be strange. She posts herself having fun which is very normal and okay.

I agree. If she did want a front row seat, it would have been wise to ensure she was with a single man. Nene famously said, “close your legs to married men”, and I can’t help, but agree. I don’t care if a man isn’t emotionally married. If he’s still married on paper and there’s no sign of a divorce on the horizon, the girlfriend doesn’t get wife privileges. Even if the source is fake, it isn’t unreasonable that a wife wouldn’t want a girlfriend in attendance. I think of funerals as really intimate affairs.

I think Carole just enjoys having fun with Tinsley. They spend most of their time on camera laughing and their friendship seems to be equal - no real push and pull of power. I’m sure that will be contested to death, but that any read on it.

Everyone knows about Wendy’s husband. Lol. Most people who have followed Wendy since her radio days have heard Wendy spill her own dirt. Also, on another point, Bethenny being mentioned in an obit would have been unbelievably tacky and messy. He is survived by his legal wife and their kids. I’ve never heard of a girlfriend and wife being mentioned in a deceased’s obit. If Bethenny’s upset, I don’t think she should be...their relationship is forever immortalized in pap pictures and gossip articles so it’s not like no one knows who she was to Dennis.

Yup. You’re free to find her as you find her - I am not here to change anyone’s mind about...well, anything. I respect all opinions. Well, unless they’re ignorant and bigoted. Danger indeed! It’s equal parts strange and amusing. Shame this season has been so polarizing that even viewers are getting into it with each other. Can’t we all just get along? ;)

I didn’t say anyone was a puppet of Andy’s - I don’t even know where that comes from and didn’t mention Andy in my post. Michael is a racist asshole to me, Andy or no Andy, and I’ve felt that way before he voiced his opinion about Bethenny. Anyway, I’ll agree to disagree. I don’t think Carole is mean or cold. I think she should be able to post what she wants when she wants and I feel the same way about Bethenny. Also, Heather and Carole are cute! Glad they are still close.

Well, she is a very polarizing person. But Andy is firmly in her ass most of the time so she’ll be fine.

She reminds me of a former friend who breaks down during any fun, positive occasion. A birthday dinner, a trip to Disney World, a trip to the beach. I no longer hang out with her because her manic breakdowns were uncomfortable. I wondered if Bethenny would attend the funeral and she did. I wonder how his wife felt. Even though they were separated in most respects, they were still legally married and have kids together. Her statement was very sad. Makes the pap strolls with Bethenny look even more tacky than they did before.