RealityGal

I like drama on a reality show. I don't know that I would want to watch a purely technical show, and if I just want to see pretty clothes I can find them online in less time. Or I could just check "Rate the Runway" or just watch the runway show. I think the runway is the most sacred thing on the show, so I hate them messing with that by giving the designer all one day challenges. And no amount of drama makes up for a shitty runway.

I think thats the thing, Kate has been on the show quite a bit, and her initial time wasn't that long ago. I mean if I saw a designer from season 2, then I saw them again on season 7 or 8, and then on All Stars now I wouldn't even question it as much, but her season wasn't that long ago. Kate made some pretty things but nothing that made me say "man, I sure hope they bring Kate back, I really want to see all her clothing!" whereas, I would truly say that about Seth Aaron. I don't think he has a great personality, but IMO his clothes are just so cool.

He is so cute! Kate is on PR so much, I'm not sure what she would know what to do in the real work world without constant conflict.

You know, that brings up an interesting point. Is something current and on point fashion wise just because its in stores? I mean are some stores simply catering to people who prefer to be "off trend?" If you have a giant retailer like Nordstrom, Macy's, Saks, Lord & Taylor then I think you have to assume that what they are carrying is what people are wearing right now or will be wearing in a little while. Those stores are huge and they cater to the wider audience. I've never heard of Von Maur, but I did a quick Wikipedia search and it seems to have 29 stores, in 13 midwest states, and caters to a "middle class" consumer. A lot of the stores seem based in Ohio, Illinois, Iowa and Nebraska, and I mean no offense to those living in the Midwest, but those don't necessarily seem like hubs on fashion forward designs. Although Chicago is very chic. Does a store like that cater to people who don't really want to be fashion forward. Although, there may always be a market for a basic grey cape for the winter.

Do they get some money for winning Fan Favorite? Is there a prize, maybe a Red Robin gift card? Bottomless fries? A free Mary Kay makeover? Or is it just bragging rights

Well thats my bad, its the same reason why people aren't supposed to text while drunk. I shouldn't be posting directly after a run :)

I think that brings up an interesting point. And I respect your decision to not want to discuss your POV anymore. I don't think anyone here would accuse you of being Korina as anything more than a joke, most people on this forum seem chill, even if they have strong opinions. But, I digress, I don't know how reality show taping works. But I think, just like anything else on TV, there is an element of storytelling. It would make sense to me that they tape the entire season, just to see what happens. They have a bunch of TH from everyone, they probably have super bitchy TH from people that will give you super bitchy TH. I think they have personality types that they cast, and those are the ones that they know they can get super bitchy TH from if they just ask the right questions. And yes, I think there are probably TH that Korina has done that have been bitchy, and some that have probably been fine. The TH are things they can cut, paste, etc. Yes, no one can make her say anything in the TH, so those are her views, but the production team can choose which ones to air and when to air them. So anyways, I think they film the entire season just to see what happens. When you have a big, dramatic set of events that occurred naturally, like Korina's behavior towards Char, and her behavior on the runway, and her behavior during the one hour sew off, I would think as a producer, you KNOW that you have to put that in the show. But you don't just want it all coming out of left field, so you "tell the story" from the beginning of the season. You pick the TH from Korina that are going to support that behavior she displayed during the Char thing. But that doesn't mean thats not Korina, IMO. Korina did say all of those things, its unlikely those are the only TH, but as a viewer we can only know that the TH that exist are the ones that are shown on the show. Its hard to prove the existence of things that you've never seen, but you know that what you have seen does exist. So I don't think its super crazy to think that this is how Korina is, the viewer hasn't been given evidence that she is any other way. But then, even if I were to give her the benefit of the doubt in terms of the TH, and in terms of the various eye rolling looks, what seals the deal for me are the things she has done that aren't subject to producer manipulation. Her condescending facebook post is something that the producers had no power over (and yes, MV on whether or not the facebook post was bad, I think it was, but that's me). Her behavior on the runway wasn't something the producers had any say in, other than to create the same stressful conditions that everyone has to cope with. Her behavior towards Char in the green room wasn't a fiction created by the producers. Her behavior during the sew off wasn't something the producers made her do. So, to me, it is those things that give me insight into her. I mean, so do the TH, but I can understand people claiming producer manipulation of the TH, and bad editing. Or wait a minute, have I just basically said exactly the same thing you just said in your post? I just came back from a run, I may have a runners high (this happens after a run when I think all of my thoughts are absolute gold) ETA: and by being the personality type that would give super bitchy TH, Korina probably was kept by the producers much longer than she would have been kept otherwise. I think she could have, and probably should have gone home on the Heidi challenge.

Korina seemed pretty married to her vision, because it was based off of her anger towards Nina saying that she falls back on a southwestern motif. So I don't think a think Emily said/didn't say made a difference. I also think that was somewhat the same for Char. She automatically grabbed the blue fabric. She did say short and tight, but the dress she finally came up with was form fitting, just a little longer, so its possible that Char would have had the same dress, just a few inches shorter. So, I think Sean's input may not have been that great. I do think that she relied on him for construction elements, but both Korina and Emily can do construction, so if Korina's original vision had been more do-able, she should have been able to execute it very well, considering that the only person on Team Char that can do construction was Sean. But Korina was so angry and upset with Nina that she chose a complex dress that was hard to execute well in an hour. But that was a vision she was married to, that was what she wanted to do, and I don't think Emily was going to talk her out of it.

I see November 9th!!!!

are you for real, is she burning the friendship contract???? OMG I just watched that preview! What the what, and when is this going to be available for my viewing pleasure???? Damn you Andy Cohen, just when I think I'm out, you pull me back in! ETA: looks like Cynthia, and Phaedra got the memo that they were boring last season. Phaedra cheating on her husband with a dude named Chocolate? Whats his last name? Did she at least do a background check this time? And still talking shit about Kenya....as if you don't have enough to worry about raising two boys on your own and dating a dude named after a candy. And wearing those mesh outfits while in a bikini, will she ever learn, what happened to that contract for Xenadrine. And Cynthia, standing up for herself, telling Nene she is going to defriend her, burning a friendship contract, making Nene CRY?

Emerald green was color of the year at Sephora.....two years ago I'm just sayin' okay, thank goodness its not just me, because I was like "I don't think that's really a red lip" But handlebar seemed so confident, so certain, so I figured I must be wrong.

ElectricBoogaloo - I appreciate the passion and the humor of the post. And it said what I had been trying to say, but sometimes my words, while voluminous, aren't as clear. No, never Korina's fault, in every challenge it is like she has been possessed by Michelangelo and produces pure wearable art. It must just be very frustrating for her. I mean would these judges deny the beauty of the Sistine Chapel? Because its almost exactly the same thing when they aren't giving Korina a win.

Dang ElectricBoogaloo, way to say it! Although strangely, according to Christian, some chick in Aspen is wanting to wear that outfit. Whatever, let me see the whites of her eyes while she is wearing that, and then I'll believe it. But seriously....I liked your post, but I wanted to also give you an internet "woot woot" and maybe that Arsenio Hall arm thing from back in the day.

Touche! After that display on the runway, in the green room, I wouldn't want to tell her much of anything....she looks like she could be a biter. I think you bring up a good point, and I don't get why she persisted in the behavior, I understand a momentary flash of frustration and anger, but geez. She isn't 10, she is almost 30, at that age you should have a little self control. But, for arguments sake, lets just say her behavior was borne out of anger, frustration, low blood sugar, lack of sleep, and hunger. Allright, fine, but then you're given the chance to come back, after getting at least a day or two of sleep, and without the stress of the competition. At that point, I would think she would realize that she behaved like a massive asshole and would use the opportunity to try to begin to repair her image. But it looks like she gets upset next week too! Thats crazy to me! But I'm hoping I'm reading the preview wrong, and she walks off in a huff because someone hit her in the face with a door or something. I mean unless the production team went to her room and told her that if she made a big stink when she came back to help Char they would reward her with a place on the next season of All Stars, I just don't get it.

The fashion! She and Victoria can wear a dress. I'm happy to have Victoria back just to see the fashion portion of the Revenge competition.

Well, according to her facebook post, much to the "dismay" of PR fans Korina is very close friends with all the other designers. I'm sure with her sunny disposition, carefree nature , kind demeanor and witty quips she is a friend magnet.

you know...at this point...me too

I actually really liked the piece, so I guess I'm really a hoochie at heart.....maybe Char will have a ready to wear collection at some point :)

What are you talking about, the fans love him!

Think of how much more amusing it'll be when it actually happens! :)

Let me give you the script for how it'll go down Designer: well you know, she is supposed to be a feminist robot doctor from the future, so I was thinking a strong eye, and a red lip Handlebar: well why don't fabulous blood red from the Party City "Get your Zombie on collection".....starts applying to the models lips.....as you can see, this color really makes her lips look so fresh, but so strong and it makes a bold statement. Handlebar: And if we use a dab of the "pus green" for the lid, and a little of the "scab brown" for the browbone, her eyes will really pop. Designer: wow, she looks great, thanks Party City! *facial shot of the model flashes on the screen as they head to the White Rain hair design studio*

Its starting to look like that....but I don't blame Mary Kay, I just think the colors don't translate well to TV

This post is dead on the money IMO. For all of Porsha's anger, it was Kenya who kept that peach in her hand. Whomp whomp on Porsha, hope that Dish Nation gig is paying enough to keep up with those house payments!

That would be so funny. I know I have my line, but makeup by Wet n' Wild, and handlebar trying to really talk up the colors and how great the foundation is would just be too good to be missed.

Here is the thing. I would have totally found a place in my mind to accept "unfair edit" if it had just been TH's and misplaced looks. I felt that a lot of that in the "Amanda vs. Char/Korina" thing. I felt like the editors may have pieced together random looks. As for the TH's, we really don't know what anyone else said, how long these interviews are and what they cherry pick to choose. Yes, Korina chose to say those things, so she can't complain when the air them. I would have accepted unfair edit until 1) she decided to post something on Facebook that was right in line with her being a classless bitch (and I know MV on that, but thats my POV) and 2) she behaved that way in the workroom and the stew room/green room towards Char and 3) her behavior on the runway. That not an unfair edit, thats what she did and thats how she behaved, and thats who she is. No one made that up, no one manufactured that, it was all her. Char was facing the same situation, and an even worse situation, and she didn't break down, she barely broke a sweat. And if she has those anger issues, she needs to work on those, because the world is sometimes an unfair place. I think Char has probably also faced a ton of unfair situations in life, Detroit is economically depressed and crime ridden. Have you ever heard her whine that its so unfair that everyone else has the advantage of design school? How its unfair she has to design something in an hour, when its difficult for her to design something in a day? Fashion is subjective, and just as easily Char could have started to whine that her stuff was much better than Korina's and she shouldn't have to be involved in this sew off. Both outfits were ugly, Korina's look like Christmas in a Dallas episode in 1982 and Char's jacket was weird and her dress was too short/tight. "Because I was mad" isn't really a good excuse for her behavior, she isn't a 10 year old child, she is a 28 year old adult, so should be beyond acting out, even if she is hungry and tired. Everyone is hungry, tired and stressed. And I might even accept that she just had a moment, where she snapped. But the difference between you and Korina is that you felt bad when you think back on how you behaved. And when I've behaved like that, I've felt bad as its been happening too, and once its over, 5 minutes later I wish I could time machine myself back and I would act so much better. But Korina has another chance to come back the next day and have a "do over" and it doesn't look like she takes that opportunity to behave any better, which tells me, that this is just who she is. And she isn't like you, and you aren't like her. And if she wanted to fuck over the producers, she would graciously accept coming back and graciously help Char, not only would that help to repair the damage she has done to her reputation, smooth over the feathers she ruffled by acting like a bitch, but it would fuck with the producers plan. If she is going to play the "production manipulated me route" shouldn't she realize that its clearly producer manipulation to put her with Char and not play into their hands?