aphroditewitch

I feel like Kristine is in a good position to comment accurately on Luke. Kristine has said that her previous relationship was unhealthy and she had to eventually get out of it. I think she was sympathetic towards Kate because she had been there herself.

I agree, Luke is sending mixed signals because that is part of his mind game. He will say something mean only to cover with a backhanded compliment. Very typical of abusers. I think she was attracted to him at the beginning but as the days have gone by and his cruelty has worsened, I think it has waned.

The show doesn't care. And it is pretty weak for Dr. Pepper to say things after the fact. She had the opportunity to really lay into Luke when she met with them and he was lying through his teeth and she didn't. She knew that when he couldn't back up his statements about Kate drinking too much that he was being dishonest and then when he sat there and lied about how he didn't want to beat Kate down despite that being exactly what he was doing. The show could have stopped production on Luke and Kate and not aired their story. And they could have brought in real therapists to speak to Kate. But they just sat there and watched the abuse unfold. They may not have been able to force a divorce but they could have stopped enabling the abuse.

But in Kristine's case I think living with her parents is a more recent thing. She had previously lived with the ex that she talked about. She might have moved home to regroup after such a draining relationship. She might be spoiled but she at least knows how to do basic adulting. Going over for meals at Keith's grandmother's house is just a band-aid. It doesn't solve the problem which is Keith's determination to rely on women to take care of him. There is no question as to why his last relationship failed, he said he had been with the ex for several years. Eventually the ex had to acknowledge that he wasn't willing to change.

I found Luke's mom to be super creepy. Especially the weird way she took Kate's hand while talking to her. His mom knows what type of person her son is but doesn't care. She probably blamed all his ex-girlfriends when those relationships inevitably failed because her son is such a douche.

Luke is so vile. I wanted to scream at the tv last night when Dr. Pepper was finally acknowledging that he was scum. Those things should have been said to his face.

I didn't see that but I did see the preview of Luke smirking while again claiming that Kate drinks so much but then she countered with how he had been so wasted the other night he couldn't come home.

She's living with Luke, so it is basically the same thing. Dr. Pepper commented on it during Unfiltered how Kate was not the bubbly person that she met during the matchmaking meetings. Luke is putting out her light. We haven't gotten to see who Kate really is, we have been given hints but they are subtle. We know that she takes classes that interest her, she has an interest in music since she plays the piano and probably the guitar since she brought one with her when moving, and she seems to have a supportive friend group. But she has been reduced down to a sad girl by the show.

I never expected during the matchmaking episode that A.J would be a part of the only couple with a real chance.

Keith isn't interested in being a husband. When Kristine brings up how he could help out, he acts like she is suggesting he drink poison.

I wish Stephanie would ditch that cool toned eye makeup. She needs warmer tones on her eyes IMO.

Dr. Pepper should have said the things she is saying about Luke on Unfiltered to Luke when he couldn't back up his statements about Kate.

Abuse is not about people's feelings about it though, which is why a person can be subjected to abusive behavior and not necessarily recognize it as abuse. Abuse is about the action or words of the abuser. It does not matter if those words are dismissed as nonsense or hurt the intended target or not.

Luke has gone beyond behavior that is simply "not nice". He tried to ruin Kate's reputation by calling her an alcoholic despite not giving any evidence. People have criticized Kate for being overly invested in Luke despite not knowing him very long. But the same goes for him. He is very hell bent on hurting Kate despite not having a history with her. What is Luke's motivation to try and destroy a woman he barely knows? Why is he determined to make her seem like an alcoholic? There is something seriously wrong with him if he feels the need to go out of this way to do those things to someone he only has to deal with for a short period of time. For all the people saying that Kate can just leave, the same also goes for Luke. If he finds Kate so awful to live with, he could state that and go. But instead he pulls these stunts like telling her he feels dead inside and trying to make her out to be an alcoholic.

There was nothing nasty about my post. It was matter of fact.

The bartender story doesn't even make sense. If you had been as traumatized by a friend dying as a result of a drunk driver as he claimed he was, you would not be bartending.

I'm not aware of Luke getting death threats. In general these kinds of threats over social media seem to target women more often than men. People have begun to look into his lies and receipts are starting to come out. And he is having friends do damage control but I don't think anyone believes the story they are floating because it doesn't make sense. Luke might be the reason that the cast was kept from having public social media accounts this season.

This has been addressed already and no it was not referring to Jasmine.

A person can be bad at communicating without acting the way Luke does. He fits the signs of an abuser. Several of the people on the show over the years have not been great at communicating but they were not abusive. His lies about the drinking were a classic abuser tactic.

Signing on to the show doesn't make the abuse any less awful. Most people go through their reality experience relatively unscathed.

The show is complicit in Luke's abuse. They aren't going to let Kate be the one to call it out on their show. Her face tells a different story than her words. That is the face of someone who know the show put her through hell for nothing. Their storyline doesn't make the show more interested it actually makes it harder to watch. The matchmakers have made weak criticisms of Luke at best, none have gone far enough to put their own paychecks on the line.

Unfiltered is also heavily edited and I think was filmed before the season aired, so Kate doesn't have any public reaction to go on. Even if Kate accurately called out Luke's abusive behavior, it would not air.

I think he has some BPD traits but he also might be a dual diagnosis.

It is abuse because the things he says are intended to chip away at Kate. Many people say mean things to their partner but abuse takes it to a whole new level. He fits the criteria of an emotionally abusive person for example he places unreasonable expectations on Kate, he acts superior to Kate and everyone, he invalidates her as a person, and he is deliberately creating problems. The last of which we saw in this week's episode. He told producers that Kate has a drinking problem. When asked by Dr. Pepper, he says the same thing. But when asked by Kate to give an example, he can't because she likely doesn't have a drinking problem. A person who had a legitimate concern would be able to cite several examples. Instead Luke just defaulted to the claim that she drinks more than him then told a story about an alleged friend who died causing him to wait to drink. The problem being that pictures have surfaced of Luke drinking several years earlier than he claimed. He also also repeated claimed that Kate pressure him to kiss her but then when she was asked about it, the situation was very different. Kate isn't the one who has been caught in numerous lies, Luke has, so her version of events has more credibility. Contrast that to Jasmine and Will. Jasmine has said some crappy things but none of it seems to fit the criteria of abuse.

Which was is response to me saying the following: So no it wasn't about Will and Jasmine it was in response to me saying that Kate would have been different matched with someone who is not an abuser. Even if they wouldn't have liked each other, someone like Will would not have treated Kate the way Luke does.