I am struggling with a lot of this thread, too. I have four children. My first was a csection after 36 hours of labor. The hospital actually sent me home after 20 hours and told me to labor longer at home.
I have had three vbac. One of those labors was 44 hours. All of my babies were huge. All of them went to the nicu. I hemorrhaged with two of my births. I feel a lot of sympathy for Jill. In my own experience, many thing can go awry during birth.
All of the "giant white baby" and "40 hoursof labor is too long" and "vbac is dangerous" type comments bug me because I have been there. Without direct evidence that Jill did anything wrong, I just feel bad for her, espeCially seeing how many people really want this to be her fault. If anythinge comes to light proving she caused harm to her child, then she can be blamed.
Csections are dangerous, and scary. I have relatives and neighbors who have had severe complications from planned csection. The national csection rate is 30%, when WHO says it should be closer to 15%. Rural areas tend to have even higher csection rates, which correlate to higher maternal mortality. When your 18 year old neighbor dies from a blood clot after a planned cs, and your sisters have had blood transfusions and neuropathy and adhesions, it makes you see csections as sometimes necessary but still dangerous. Jill can cry all she wants to about having another cs, as far as I am concerned.