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I think last year, Netflix timed it so that it was dropped right around the time the last episode of the season aired in Canada.

I agree with this. I watched this and I just felt like they were trying to double down on the things for which people have been criticizing the show. Which is odd, you know? I'd think if a show was getting feedback that it was coming across as manipulative, I would think that they would try to *not* be as manipulative. Instead, it's worse (at least judging from this clip.) However, in the interviews I've read with Fogelman, it seems like he is convinced that he is above reproach with this show and, if anyone has a problem with it, it is because they just don't understand things.

I had forgotten about Sister Evangelina's flatulence talent! The story with Mrs Jenkins was just so heartbreaking that I wasn't even overly irritated with Jenny for most of it. Although it does seem like they send Jenny to all the cases with the worst poverty, which I find rather satisfying. Chummy and the scouts--I feel her pain there! The story with the young girl giving birth (sorry, I keep forgetting names) was hard to (re)watch for me, although I did love how the family came together at the end.

Ugh, just ugh. Jo is the character who just has too much--homeless, abused wife, on the run, dumped by Alex, blah blah blah. The last thing she needs is a love triangle. I wish they would just take the time to "clean up" her character a bit before dumping more on her. And I wish they would find something far more interesting for Deluca....

I think that's in Canada. I'm assuming it doesn't hit Netflix until December (about the same time they dropped season 1 last year).

The sentiment in the article (I can't remember if it is the article linked above or another that I read) said that she would continue to be involved with her ABC shows now that she was at Netflix. I can't remember, is Grey's owned by ABC? If so, they would have the call as to when to end it...and they are on record of saying they will keep it going as long as it is pulling in viewers. I mean, this last season was far from good, but it still had strong ratings. Wasn't it in the top 5 shows for the season?

This is not a bad thing. I think Shonda would do well on a streaming or premium-cable network, especially since broadcast seems stuck in its ways.

One thing about this rewatch is it is proving my belief that I have cried in every single episode of this show. We're 3 for 3 on that count. The Joe Collett story was so sweet, but I so wanted to reach through and slap Jenny when she was laughing with disgust while she was telling everyone about the bugs she saw in his flat. Ugh! I think that Ted saying that Edward was the most beautiful baby in the world was where I really lost it though...what a sweet man!

More info on DeLuca's sister: http://www.spoilertv.com/2017/08/greys-anatomy-season-14-stefania.html At least they are saying they are going to "flesh out" DeLuca...finally. Still, it kind of sucks that they needed to bring in another character to do it. Also, I'm wracking my mind, but have we ever had a mystery/long lost/previously unmentioned brother show up on this show? I can't think of one...

True. I'm not talking so much about her not being at the hospital. I guess what I don't want to see is that Arizona not acknowledge the end of the relationship at all. Yes, it was a crap relationship, but it also did have a ripple effect in the hospital and if all that just *poof* disappears, it will be just as empty as Hahn going out to the parking lot and never coming back. And, if Arizona has Minnick-amnesia, I'll be very disappointed, but mostly very jealous. I'd love to forget that it ever happened.

Yes, I do hope that Public Broadcasting does its job here. I also hope that we don't only see books by dead white men featured. Yes, there is definitely a place for the likes of Twain, Fitzgerald, Hawthorne, and others...but there is also a place for Lee (which, if To Kill a Mockingbird is not featured, I'll have lost all faith in this show), O'Connor, Morrison, Baldwin, and so many other diverse authors.

I'm glad to see the character go, but I do hope that they at least address her absence and not give her the Erika Hahn non-sendoff.

You know, you really can't fix a bloated cast problem by adding more people to the cast. Also, I'm frustrated that they haven't been able to make DeLuca relevant on his own. When he first came on the show he was the first really interesting thing the show had done in a while. And that lasted one or two episodes, then he hooked up with Maggie and that--okay, I guess. Then he got the shit beat out of him and was completely forgotten about. Now, we get a sister...sigh! Well, at least we get to hear some Italian. I mean, that's cool. And maybe she'll be an oncologist because the plastics guy is really over worked with all his cancer cases. A quick check of her IMDB page...and it doesn't look like it....

Not necessarily. NBC doubled up episodes for both Trial and Error and Great News and then renewed both of them--of course, those are both sitcoms, which is a slightly different animal. Even so, I can't see how this would ever be more than a 1 season show. I mean, the asteroid is coming soon and either it hits the Earth or they find some way to divert it. I'm not sure how they can keep going once that happens.

Megan has been recast: ‘Grey’s Anatomy’: Abigail Spencer Set To Recur In Recasting Personally, I'm not overly thrilled with this. I wasn't especially impressed with Spencer in Timeless (and she's one of the reasons I quit watching). And I did like the previous Megan who showed up in the bottle episode mid-season.

My biggest problem with the reporter is that there is just too much going on in this story already and having the media angle just makes things that much more crowded. Honestly I didn't miss her at all for the episode and half when I thought she was dead. I think my favorite thing about this show right now is the fact that my husband, who is an engineer and has quite a bit of scientific knowledge, keeps telling me how everything is wrong.

Sigh. Sadly, I agree on this prediction. If they hadn't upped the actress to a series regular role this year, I could have still lived in hope that she was just a momentary blast from the past that Kevin needed to get his head on straight. Instead, I think @methodwriter85 is right on the money and we're all in for a season of drama from the inert Kevin and Sophie story.

It does pick up as we get to know the rest of the cast a bit more. Speaking of which, I watched episode 2 today and I had mistakenly remembered that Chummy was introduced later in the season. Don't get me wrong--I was more than happy to see her, I just wasn't quite expecting her just yet. I know that she isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I've always loved her--and she breaks up the blandness that is Jenny. I think that this is a side effect of rewatching because I don't remember being so annoyed by Jenny the first time I watched these episodes, but now that I know what the show becomes, I just get impatient with all her simpering. Still, the story line with the young prostitute just broke my heart (again). The outcome was not surprising, but that didn't alleviate the sorrow for me when her daughter was taken from her without her consent. I think it was a little harder to swallow because there wasn't really a bad guy in it (well, other than the pimp). The Priest's hands were tied, but he also did seem to want the best for her. I doubt that there were any resources for a 15 year old uneducated Mother in 1957 England so I can see how they felt they had no choice but to put the baby up for adoption. Okay, one more Jenny complaint. I found ironically amusing that the big thing with Chummy, at least with Sister Evangeline, was that Chummy was too high class and would never fit into the community in Poplar. However, she stepped right in. Jenny, on the other hand, always seems to be walking on eggshells and not wanting to touch anything in case she might catch something.

Yeah, I found that hard to believe. It seemed like Spanish was the language spoken at home (although the kids were all bilingual), you would think that something would have stuck for him. I think the part that stuck out to me was not that he didn't know Spanish but that he didn't feel like he needed to know. Hey buddy, this woman has popped out 25 of your children, it isn't too much to ask that you learn how to say hello, goodbye, and please pass the salt to her.

So, I re-watched the first episode yesterday and was surprised at how much I had forgotten about it. I mean, I know I saw it, mostly because I vaguely remembered the mother. What I did not remember was that she was giving birth to her 25th child or that her husband brought her to London when she was "no older than 14" and was pregnant with her first at the time (I'm going to try not to think about that because I actually did like the husband in the episode and would rather not see him as a pedophile in my mind). I did find it surprising that they didn't try to admit her to the hospital after she had had such a problematic birth. I was once talking to a friend of mine--she's a family practitioner, but she also does obstetrics--and we were talking about, well, a reality family with a lot of kids and she said that what would ultimately happen if a woman had so many babies is that her uterus would fail to contract after birth and she would bleed to death...and it looks like that is what started to happen here and then miraculously stopped. I also had never made the connection that the deep fog in this episode was that famous fog incident in London--which I actually didn't know about it until they addressed it in The Crown (and my degree is in British History, mainly medieval, but still..so I should have known about that). I'm sure that every British school child knows about that but it was completely new to me. I guess my other thought is it really struck me how bland Jenny was. Even though we barely got to know Cynthia and Trixie in this episode, and we have yet to meet most of the other midwives, Jenny still seemed really dull compared to them. I'm going to place the blame on the actress because I didn't really feel that the character is written to be so blah, and since none of the other characters are nearly as bad (or bad at all!), it isn't the direction. So, yeah...acting.

I do have to say this. I'm currently doing a re-watch of the series and I'm appalled at how much homophobia was used as a comic device--more often by Ross, but most or all of the other characters do it as well. This is not something that I picked up on (or, and I hate to admit this, maybe I just laughed along) in the 90s. As for Ross, he's not my favorite character, but I do think he does get to be upset about Carol leaving him and, in the beginning, essentially trying to raise his child with someone else to the exclusion of Ross. He does get to be upset about a woman he loved all of a sudden (in his eyes) not loving him "in that way." He does get to be upset with Susan's disdain for him. However, he can do all that without being homophobic.

I don't really think this is the show that needs spoilers to drum up anticipation for a new season. I mean, I like reading spoilers as much as the next person, but what do we really have coming up that could benefit from a spoiler? How Jack died? Honestly, I'm not convinced that they'll tell us this season (although I'd like them to, simply because it's starting to feel like they are either just stringing the audience along or, even worse, don't actually know how Jack dies and are trying to buy themselves time).

If they decide to put Jo and Alex back together, I do hope that they take some care with it. I have no strong feelings either way about the couple, but I agree that just throwing them back together would be a very hard sell to viewers who weren't hardcore fans of the couple. However, I can see how they can work towards a reconciliation that would make sense and be interesting to the viewers.

I agree that just the three of them is a bit too much neediness--and I would never want a show of just the four (including Meredith) of them, even if Arizona is thrown into the mix. That being said, if the show actually grew the characters and actually balanced the entire cast, I would like to see some bonding between the women, and not just Meredith and her "sisters".

Wasn't Offred's mother mentioned in the show when the guy helping Luke and June get to Canada said she (the mother) had given him a vasectomy? I can easily see how they could have shifted the mother's role a bit--instead of fighting for abortion rights, she was fighting for access to contraceptives and such. It really, really wasn't that long ago that most forms of contraception weren't easy to get if you didn't have health insurance. It will be interesting to see how they try to integrate her into the narrative at this point.