brillia79

Well Ashley’s upset because she was planning on being the drama star of the reunion by playing dumb about the guy who cheated before, during and after the wedding. You'd think Jon would lay low since he a creeper preying on jailbait, but I guess not.

Yep. And he was totally trying to snatch baby from Olga.

I’m not here for Ashley’s pity party. You know your 20 year old husband is a cheater... yet he’s here on the reunion show instead of back home in Jamaica.

Re: Jon and Fernanda, I thought I was watching 90 Day Fiance, not Surviving R Kelly. How the fuck old was she when you bought her boobies?

That’s what it sounds like to me.

This! I’ve said this about past seasons to much controversy here, but love/being in love is not a requirement for marriage and historically, is a relatively new concept.

Which is what we’ve come to expect from a coward like Coltee.

But the argument was about Colt and Larissa. If some fly by night cousin comes into my house and starts screaming at someone I’m engaged to, we’re double teaming that fucker as a couple before we throw them out. Because how dare they come in my house acting like a fool. But Colt is a passive aggressive momma’s boy, so of course he just sat there and let it go on.

I can only imagine the weight gain creep when moving to the United States and not having any say in meal prep. I put on weight when I visit my parents for the holidays. I think Larissa did say something about Coltee not having to eat like a king when Debbie dismissed the breakfast she made because it wasn’t bacon, eggs and whatever. I did lose weight in London. So much walking between meals.

Non-consumation of marriage is only one way to get an annulment. But sex in the marriage doesn’t mean you can’t get an anullment. Both Molly and Danielle started the process, but backed out and took back/kept trying to get back their men. At that point, there is no fraud. You knew what the person was up to, but stayed with it anyway. Ashley’s biggest downfall will be her saying before that she doesn’t care if Jay cheats.

I’m not sure, but having sex in the marriage doesn’t mean Ashley can’t get an annulment. Especially if Jay set up Tinder accounts right after the wedding. That’s pretty good indicator of “being frauded.” I think what damned Danielle’s annulment was the repeated filing/withdrawing of annulment papers and the passing of too much time, where she was trying to get her man back. With all that, the consumation didn’t help.

That was a redemption? He planned to abscond with the baby knowing full well he didn’t apply for her K1 Visa. Told her they’d figure it out later. His word is trash, so there was no guarantee he applied for anything when he gave her that bullshit engagement ring from the Charming Charlie at National Harbor. And because he could not take baby and run without Olga’s consent like he told her he could, he’s now trying to crowdfund money to complete the process. Because there is no way Olga’s visa would’ve been approved on his income alone. And I suspect he knew that before he went to Russia. He’s a failed baby snatcher.

Or maybe Richie is better off being raised by his mother in the same country hospitals she was born in and somehow made it to adulthood. If you want to talk about the condition of hospitals, google Dr. Christopher Duntsch and see how world class hospitals in Texas let an unqualified coked-up butcher maim and kill dozens and covered it up to protect their own asses. Looks aren’t always what they seem.

Her daughter told her to bring her Barbie’s $400 Hello Dreamhouse ($3000 on eBay since it’s mo longer in production) She brought a $40 playset instead. Kia instead of Tesla

So in which of those comments was Steven being blamed for Olga’s pregnancy? I see him being blamed for participating in a pregnancy while panhandling for money to afford a baby. And since he’s the one who launched a GoFundMe, it’s fair commentary. What does raising both boys and girls into adulthood have to do with anything? In this case, the boy’s immaturity is threatening to take a baby away from a mother if she doesn’t keep sweet while a girl’s immaturity is not knowing when to give a guy a blowie to keep him from taking her baby to another continent and her “having no say. Because that’s actually something people suggested a mother do a couple of weeks after her uterus was cut open.

The way to respond to red flags is to leave. Not wait for a person who doesn’t see anything wrong with his behaviors to miraculously grow in a positive direction. Yeah, she is a victim of Steven’s behaviors on camera. Just not of him getting her pregnant. Which again, no one here even claimed. Olga has general growing that everyone does with age. But her maturity level is light years ahead of Steven. And from the sounds of it, her upbringing was rougher than Steven’s, though he sure does like to throw his in her face as a manipulation tactic. If it makes me biased to point out Steven’s abusive behaviors, then I’ll take that label and wear it proudly. But what I won’t be is an apologist for an abuser. And I won’t craft a narrative contrary to what is shown on the show where the “female” must be partially to blame for that abusers actions. Nor one where abuse is excused because of age.

People stay in bad relationships all the time. It doesn’t mean all is gravy. We don’t know these people beyond what they present to us. And what they have presented is Steven being dismissive, controlling, selfish, angry, verbally abusive, and having problems with authority. All with Olga apologizing to HIM. That’s a matter of one of them needing counseling for his issues. And the other needing to seriously consider what a green card will ultimately cost her if she is at the mercy of the other. The only growing Olga needs to do is the kind where you learn to spot red flags.

Terrible people are drawn to each other. Eric is just as terrible as Leida.

Literally no one is blaming Steven for the pregnancy and no one but The Family Kahlani is blaming Asuelo for Kahlani’s 2 pregnancies - and we’ve already determined they are fools. So why conflate the 2 separate storylines to erect a straw man argument in defense of Steven? Steven presents abusive behaviors on camera. Steven presents astonishing levels of immaturity and lack of understanding of an infant’s needs on camera. I’m going to need to see where Olga has been abusive or insistent that her desires come before the baby’s? People are responding negatively to Steven based on his onscreen actions. If he doesn’t like it, too fucking bad. Get counseling. But trying to apply a “both sides” argument to Steven and Olga when we can literally watch Olga with her own place to live, as a student, and tending to an infant while recovering from a c-section (and an overgrown infant who demands she stops feeding the newborn to tend to his needs), while we watch Steven fail at life while asking others to pay for his desire to raise a baby in the US makes both-siderism fall flat.

True, but it’s not Olga who posted a GoFundMe to digitally panhandle money. That’s Steven. Which makes me wonder how he thought he could afford the K1 process? Or a baby in one of the more expensive parts of the country (Bowie is one of the nicer parts of Prince Georges County and the expense creep from Montgomery County and DC proper is very real).

I’d like to believe that, but then I listened to the Dr Death podcast. Be careful having surgery in Texas.

I imagine it is isolating. It takes a real connection, time and maturity to get through it unscathed. Which is not the case in these fly by night relationships on this show. It takes a partner who you are on equal footing with. Not someone who is barely legal and the aging frat bro trying to tie her down. Not someone dangling US citizenship over your head. And not a family back home who pressure you into staying in a bad dynamic for “opportunities.” It also takes some initiative. You have to have a drive to go out and develop your own life independent of your future spouse so you aren’t lonely and sitting home waiting for them to return. It also seems like it’s a damn good idea to have your own money saved up. Fernanda is too immature for this, which is understandable at 19 years old. Jon is too immature for this, less understandable at 30+ years old. It’s that off-putting dynamic where an immature older man convinces an teen girl that she’s so mature, more so than women his own age. High school hangouts are full of these creeps.

Yes on the damage control. This never makes me think better of the abuser, just worse of the shitty gaslighting friends.

I take what “friends” say with a grain of salt. Friends are notoriously bad at assessing how someone behaves in a romantic relationship. How many times have we seen friends talk about what a great guy someone is... while being interviewed on the news because the “great guy” was arrested for killing his wife and kids? Too many times. Hell, too many times this Fall even. People spend way too much time providing cover for monsters.

“Stevie Blunder” has me weak right now!