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Also, Mayim Bialik was hilarious! Fun to see her get to act beyond the confines of AFF.

Simon Helberg never misses!!! I enjoyed this episode — the first in many moons.

TOTALLY see that. If YS writers are turning Meemaw into a viprous ingrate and Sheldon’s mom, Mary, into a myopic idiot who doesn’t see how Meemaw is using her innately good-hearted husband (a) for Meemaw’s own advantage and (b) against Mary’s own happiness —- then George’s descent into the bottle and adultery and early death will be a relief for the character. Which I guess is what they want, otherwise the loss of such a loving, well-intentioned man would be heartbreaking. That said, I’ll find Laurie Metcalf’s character even harder than usual to enjoy. Only Georgie & Missy seemed to have learned anything of the surviving characters. Meemaw remains vicious and Mary remains willfully stupid. All that said, I’ll watch YS and not TBBT any day. Turn on the closed captions and mute the sound and YS’s superiority in plot, characters and dualigbis just head and shoulders better.

I have *no* fondness for Meemaw anymore. Not just merciless, but without conscience. Sheldon gets his egocentricity from her, methinks. Thst said, Missy & Georgie are close to upstaging Shellybean, even with their minimal scenes!

Hi —coming back for just a little because I finished reading “Come to the Edge,” Christina Haag’s memoir of her years dating JFKjr. When Christina was hospitalized for a severe foot injury, who slept overnight in the chair by her bed? Anthony Blessed Radziwill, that’s who. My point? The man was a mensch! I hope Carole treated him well during their years together. What I’m saying is, I hope she was a completely different person with him, than she’s showing herself to be, now. Because Anthony did not deserve to be married to the kind of person she is, now. RIP, sir.

Anybody here? I love the show but just today am seeing the rerun of the home fit for a king — the redo for the Phish drummer & family. How did they do all that for $50k? My frickin’ kitchen cost half that!!!!! LOL (And they just mentioned it twice, so sure enough, they stuck to the $50k estimate!)

I’m sorry to hear it but would love any details if you’re so inclined . @Mondrianyone (great name!) thanks for heads up. I am also decorated out but like @ghoulina I’m giving it a try because I enjoyed the relationships so much. I could relate.

She writes in WR of feeling ill at ease during meals Chez Lee. Out of her element, IIRC.

Just a thought, *well* thought-out, @BodhiGurl !!

That’s true, and more’s the pity. I lead the pack in imperfections but the “girls & men” habit just fries my eggs. (The three eggs that touch each other on the plate, not my personal eggs. Heh.) It’s just a thing with me — if I do refer to grown women as girls, I try to refer to any grown males in the same context as “guys.” Words carry way more power than we realize. On the topic of words and power and acting harshly. As a teen whose body didn’t fit the “standard” of 1960s definition of desirable femininity, and as a crone whose weight is not healthy, I feel properly slightly ashamed to have piled on the criticisms of the RHONY women, the despised Carole included. OTOH - and there’s always another hand - I think my disdain for C comes from her vile treatment of Jules. One of my closest friends nearly died of an eating disorder (another friend’s timely intervention got her into treatment and she’s now doing well in recovery). That’s not to excuse myself, but to explain. I do think C’s thinness - and her apparent lack of other physical problems - was key in finishing the marathon with as little training as she had. And I also understand that C devoted half of her life, over six years, to becoming a Bravolebrity. And that the process included talking about herself on a trashy tv show. IMHO, a person who does that forfeits the expectations of restraint by commenters that most of us expect (I’m guessing). But I guess what I’m saying is: I’ve had my say about the detestable C’s physique and will try my best to confine future snark to her actions and attitudes. Amen. Awomen. ;-)

Holy cats, @Anne Thrax, I knew the rich were gross but Egad! We’re there no other men to shtup in the Bouvier sisters’ World??!! Amazibg that Anthony & John were close, with their mothers’ fraught relationship. But Jackie didn’t want her kids aping their Kennedy cousins, so.

I do get your meaning about the industry and the Hamptons orbit. Verve is an agency, I think?, representing authors, producers, etc. I’ll be surprised if they put up with a mocking attitude toward deadlines and delivery dates. And if those flippy little 500-word “articles” about Princess’ lunch conversation with the Celebrity du Jour bring in big bucks for Verve, she’ll be circling oh, ever so happily! If not? She’ll be circling the drain. Better work it, Prinny.

Lee Radziwill reportedly called RHONY “tacky” and I can’t imagine Caroline Kennedy “Privacy Is A Right” Schlossberg having been amused, especially if she heard about her SIL being “contacted” via so-called medium on teevee. Oh wait - by “upper” circles you’re talking about them as has gotten rich on media presence and the entertainment industry. Big difference. It will be, I acknowledge, interesting to watch! Y’know, I started out liking Carole well enough. Sometimes I wonder what changed my attitude so much & then it all comes back: She should never have zeroed in on poor Jules, and later on hapless Tinsley. All the iniquities, before and after, are magnified. Carole? You’re a poopyhead.

I think I know! But I’m downsizing, so give the medal to whoever’s #2, and the walker? Ptui, ptui, ptui, I’m hoping never to use one! The ninjas want to know why I’m giggling like a madwoman!!!!!! That’s just clever!! Hooo!!

I don’t know *what* it says that Carole gets the over-worked face she has. No, wait: maybe I do. She paid for it, in an attempt to have a face that matches her body, so yeah, she deserves it One of the first wake-ups I had as a 20-something in the 1970s was the routine use of “girls” for females of all ages and “men” for males over 17 or 18. In whatever spirit the terms were used, they had the undeniable effect of casting males as nature, capable and decisive — and casting females as children. Carole’s - and apparently her inner circle’s - unremitting use of the terms tells me much about her, and none of it impresses me favorably. It may also give a clue to the mystery of the ages, to wit: how was she able to effectively retire in her mid-30s and live a life of ease and glamour, though there was little inheritance other than Anthony’s investments (on a young network executive’s salary) and possible life insurance: A: She insinuated herself into circles who were impressed by her in-laws, and she played the cutesy, coquettish, diminutive, dependent, non-threatening girl to men and women who enjoyed having her as a clever, little tag-along. She met whatever deadlines were necessary to publish WR 6 years after the sad events and her position as the girl who wrote the truly heartfelt, but seriously fame-infused memoirs provided the cachet she needed until RHONY came along.

Absolutely not! One of the first rules of comedy/humor: if you have to explain the funny, you’ve failed.

Tinsley is way closer to who I’d watch this show for.* A person who gets to participate in NYC high life and hijinks. Enough with the meanness and overwrought drama and cruelty, already! *I’m not watching the show anymore precisely because of the way it’s turned into a literal emotional torture session.

Marty was too cute for that comparison. ;-)

Two 50-something 1%-ers taunting a 40-something 1%-er. I came to the tv and began to play the DVR, I saw without sound it was just shouting over shouting, I conquered by erasing the sorry mess and coming over here to enjoy the REAL show: The Snark!!! Carry on, my wayward ones!

Also my thoughts! @ryebread, I’ve been away for a day or 3 and haven’t read all the intervening pages (I’m so glad ptv doesn’t have TWOP-style rules!) and I have a question about C’s SIL in Oregon: does that refer to Anthony’s sister, or to a woman married to a brother of C’s? As to the best friend nomenclature: I devoured RoseMarie Terenzio’s JFK jr memoir today. Ms. Terenzio was Jr’s executive assistant for 5 years and something of a wheel at George magazine. IIRC, the first time she mentions Carole by name is when she takes Carole’s call to the couple’s home on the evening of the crash (RoseMarie was housesitting for the Kennedys). A few paragraphs later, she writes that Carolyn’s best friend, a woman named Jessica (again IIRC) called the apartment later and came over to be with RoseMarie (again IIRC. The book is interesting, well written and relatable. I seriously tore through it). So. It seems fair to say that Carole evidently considered CBK to be her bestie. Someone physically close to CBK identified that role as belonging to another. I’ve had friendships where one of us uses the “b” word & the other doesn’t. It happens. However: C bothering that poor woman's spirit ... on teevee .... tsk tsk tsk. That’s where the ninjas sneer and I roll my eyes. FWIW.

I agree — Bethenny is as sincere about forgiving (or whateceveird is used) as Rsmobsvis about apologizing. Empty actions, with guarantees they’ll be rude, condescending & downright mean all over again. Ratings, don’t we know.

You’re “retired Air Force” AFAIC and I appreciate your service! Thank you. I’m kind of like Carole in that I used to make a living as a writer (I was blessed!) and now (thank Heavens!) I don’t have to. But if Miss One Percenter had a truly sharp cell in her brain, she could’ve retorted, “I had one career and now I have another.” Miss Tortured-Everything couldn’t argue with that — she has the same career of reality show star and she’s apparently plenty enamored of it, the way she hangs on to it.

I hope neverbto be trapped anywhere! LOL — but if I had to endure one or the other for an unbroken hour? I’d choose Beth. And I disliked Beth back when I thought Carole was okay. Reason: I know Bethenny is gonna yak the whole time, complaining and whining and asking me questions she finds oh so clever and occasionally saying something funny — and I’d probably ask her some questions that would elicit more bon mots. I’d be entertained, in a Lenny-Bruceian kinda way. Carole? I’d know she was sneering at me, even while being ever-so-cordial, and I doubt she’d get my name right nor care much that she did. Her habit of chuckling snidely after delivering a funny [sic] line would annoy the crap out of me. Upside: if I were to say, “let’s not talk, all right?”, she probably wouldn’t.

This, this, this; one-thousand times this. And the real irony is that she *came* from our world. She knows what it’s like — and she chooses to reject the memories, the humbleness.

Meh, she’s also now the designated mouthpiece for a plastic fuck doll who’s a snake who’s fucked everybody. Bethenny is a *forgiving* sort, doncha know....... Ramona The Apologizer Bethenny The Forgiver I would run not walk in the other direction if I saw either or both headed my way.