Jonesy

More and more I am say 80% sure Misha/Cas is in the finale...Misha's silence and ambiguity the last few weeks screams it(as did Jake Abel's joke about it) and it dovetails to Misha previously saying he was in the end scenes...not only do I remember that but a ton of others remember Misha saying that too--so I wasn't imagining that. Interesting while they were filming that big 3 day scene Misha tweeted a glorious nature shot...saying this is a day could believe in God--just a curious little aside. Regardless I got a super strong vibe Cas is in the finale in some form or fashion. So I think Cas dies in 18 after that emotional Dean/Cas scene--sacrificing for the boys and looks to be his final exit but it isn't...hence hiding Misha to bring a surprise in 20. Now is it just a goodbye, resurrection or what--that's a big unknown. Kripke gave a message about the last day of filming today and ends by quoting Kim Manner with "kick it in the ass"(same thing Jim Beaver said today) then tags Jensen, Jared and Misha. We'll see soon if i'm right about Cas in the finale or not--I think it's the case. So right or wrong--book me as on the Cas will be in the finale side.

I think that was misinterpreted--imo Showalter was just talking about the final episode would be without the full cast and crew to fully celebrate the end...and not that the finale was effected horribly. I expect a big epic finale despite whatever changes were made--they are not letting 15 years end without really going for it. With regards to Jensen and the ending--he honestly said at first wasn't sure concerning the ending then later was honestly positive towards the finale...going by his own words--and why would Jensen revisit the show?--because he loves it and the people involved.

Jim Michaels just tweeted a pic with Message that Thursday is last day of filming...the picture is of Baby in the outdoors. The boys will have Baby in the final scene!

Fangasm says tomorrow is the final day not today--they seem pretty sure BUT not totally. Mentioned how last episode finished with 9/8...9 out of 8 days. 1 extra. As this episode seems likely to do also. PS--did more checking...Supernatural Wiki and Winchester Family Business both also say we have a 9/8 of filming. So unless all 3 are wrong--we will get that extra special final scene day tomorrow. We are not done yet!

I just throw this in here--The Walking Dead just announced it's season 11 will be it's last one. So SUPERNATURAL at 15 seasons is safe from being passed as the longest fantasy genre show in North American history. TWD was the only show that had ANY potential to pass SPN. I think SPN's record is safe most likely forever. Also if Jensen is on THE BOYS past season 3--I expect him and Kripke gets a visit from Jeffrey Dean Morgan for sure(maybe a significant visit)...they've already talked about it and JDM will be free to do so in near future. Which would be great!

Yes they are clever how they film in bubbles--we should have action and actors close to each other...won't look too different from a normal episode.

Thanks guys. Is it possible that it could be some complex heavy special effects scene instead that's not just a fight scene but with extra elements that includes stunts since it's 3 days instead of just one full day alone. Just speculating

If there any hard proof on what kind of scene the 3 day scene 28 is? Did someone leak it's a big fight scene?

lol.

Well we knew Mark was in near the end already...on this board i'm the minority regarding Lucy--glad to see him one more time.

I still think it less likely Misha mailed it from his home to his home(and Vancouver and Washington State right across the border is super close) ...but yes will find out soon enough. I expect Cas dead in 18 most likely, 19 maybe not in, probably final goodbye in 20.

Yeah, I get that...wherever they got the Misha info wouldn't be from a description of a vid--i'm sure they'd of watched it. So either there is another edit OR more likely they got it elsewere.

Can't be sure of course--but even those who thought Cas died in 18 did agree Jensen mentioned Misha quarantining...they mentioned it as sort of a matter of fact...fact. It seemed to be me they didn't even question that...they are like Cas fanatics who I assume would scoop up any mentions. Doesn't seem they'd get it from a description of the Booker thing...they would certainly watch any Misha content directly...so they probably got the info elsewhere or since you brought up the description...maybe there is a different version of the Booker vid that has it there. Who knows? They seem utterly sure regardless. So add to that the letter--think that much more likely. That said your scenario is quite possible-- Cas dead in 18, 20 cameo with boys maybe in Heaven.

Can't say but he seems to be away from his family in need to write his Son...with the other clue Jensen saying Misha was quarantining backed by multiple witnesses--not sure where Misha was exactly though. Here's wild thought...Misha showed a pic(not sure when it first was shot) of him pretending to swallow a rainbow. But you can ALSO take it as the rainbow shooting out of his mouth...Could it be symbolic(yes I know Grace is what--whitish) that the rainbow flying out of Cas's mouth is the Grace leaving Cas and then Cas is human in his vessel. Probably not a secret clue! But can sort of take it that way.

Thinking back on this and Misha's tweet--this may be significant. First I think this is an accurate post because Misha is serious about the postal problem(regardless of what you think of his views) so don't think he'd make this up at all. And this post tells us Misha was away from his son and almost certainly his family around August 6 hence writing his son a letter around that date...which would be plenty of time to quarantine for most if not all of 19 and 20. And he may have been away even longer but we know August 6 for sure. I see no reason why he'd be away from his family except for Vancouver and SPN. I don't think he'd do a quarantine that early and not be in 19 and 20. Could be wrong but seems logical. I also say this because Misha's ambiguous post on where he is exactly seems suspicious plus the joke of Jake Abel saying hey there's Misha...seems like they are maybe trolling concerning Cas . It just seems more is going on than we know with this Cas thing. I also went looking for some Cas fanatics on Twitter since they are rabid fans and might have clues. Most think Cas dies in 18(still possible for sure!)...and they think the recent trailer showing emotional Cas talking to emotional Dean--leads to Cas sacrificing himself in 18, maybe in place of Dean or Sam. There were a few still arguing Cas may not die in 18 and mentioned two big reasons--Misha mentioned he was in 20(which I also heard) AND they mentioned Jensen said somewhere that Misha was quarantining(which I did not know). Both sides of the argument agreed that Jensen did say Misha was quarantining...this would fit in with Misha sending his son a letter well over 20 days at this point. So here's my thought--I say the trailer does show Dean and Cas right before Cas sacrifices himself in 18. But i'm thinking that's not the "final" final ending for Cas...I think 18 looks like a totally horrible end for Cas but a surprise twist probably keeps Cas dead but not in a desolate place--and he has final scenes with the boys probably in 20. Cas could be in 19 and/or 20 and still be dead. Or maybe even back to life(maybe even human), but i'd guess probably still dead. But a more happy dead. But with clues Misha has been quarantining, I sure don't think his last scene is in 18 even if Cas most likely dead there(though don't think that's a 100% certainty that it's death).

Interesting--day 1 said 325 and all the others days 326...not just today.

19 seems like it's a complex detailed episode.

Yeah I hear it's a big heroic sacrifice--i'd much much rather have an alive hero. I want Dean to live too--as a hero. That said, i'm not 100% sure what's up with Cas...i'm sensing they may be playing games and hiding what is really going on. Just a feeling.

This looks great--except for the maybe killing Cas thing. I agree we may get sort of a Swan Song riff.

You know really slowing this down frame to frame--if they had filmed everything this almost looks like Sam sacrifices himself in part paying back all the time Dean protected him hence Sam's speech, both Dean and Cas look on super emotional and horrified and Cas tries to soothe Dean's stunned angst. Cas and Dean both look on horrified at something and Dean looks super emotional towards Sam while Sam is talking. That said they haven't filmed the end--so it can't quite be all that then! But it does kind of looks like that.

Jake Abel posted his last day in SPN was yesterday...so goodbye Michael in 19. He posted a clip of him saying goodbye on set and then he joked hey there's Misha...and then says oh no, that's not Misha. Something is fishy with Misha--the birthday song, Jake's Joke, lack of a Misha chair, Misha's contrary hints...I'm starting to think they are trolling us and hiding evidence of Misha on set. Not saying for sure but i'm starting to get a vibe about that.

You mean him talking about his daughter cleaning and getting wishes in return? Maybe though not definite...his wife could have told him the story.

Yep. My best guess is not or if so...maybe something very brief. But hard to say. Wrapping up 15 years of Dean and Sam for the most part...maybe some consequences also of what comes out of 19.

Well we have a twist--Fischer's board just went up...and they are filming an extra day for episode 19. The 9th day filming 19 will be Rob's last day.

Well if Fangasm is right then 20 does start filming today(and Rob they say filming today too and not just leaving)...that's our first hard evidence. Now if we see Jason Fischer's board showing that filming day 1 soon then that will be that.