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The narrator admitted he lied only once in introducing Peter. What was the lie? Richard E. Grant plays Octavio as well as the Narrator (obviously). Is he also Commander 14? Sorry if it’s obvious, the voice sounds the same, and it makes sense if the entire thing is rigged and the Jejuene Institute and the Elsewhere Society are just two sides of the same coin, and the players are just being... played.

Because the crew is so forgettable, I assumed the same thing. But it was a different girl, and it was someone else who caused it. Mild spoiler: the two breathing in alien air has absolutely no damaging effect on them, for all the screen time they spent on it, which surprised me. But that event does lead to them hooking up later, so maybe that was the point.

You are assuming Earthers are willing to mine. It's safe to assume the valuable minerals found on Earth have already been depleted, thus the need to start mining the asteroids. I think any Earther on the dole who had any desire to work hard already became a belter, generations ago. My point is, it's not enough that there are minerals to be pulled from the rock, you have to be willing to PULL them, and it's still hard work. So the belters would still have a leg up on Earth and Mars.

Seeing Gus Fring as the mysterious Mr. Edgar was awesome. But not nearly as awesome as hearing him say, "...before I head off for Belize". If that's not a nod to Breaking Bad fans, I don't know what is. So, why are the supes so intimidated by Mr. Edgar, anyway? The other Vought executives, sure. But the supes?

I'm not sure what the rules are for the Seven, but the first episode revealed that Vought places a superhero in every major city, if the city is willing to pay for it. I think the Supes have managed to bring down crime dramatically across the country wherever they are placed, so there is less for them to do. Not that they can eliminate it altogether. But I agree, besides the armored car in episode one and the warehouse caper Deep and Starlight handled, we haven't seen much heroing. I guess the focus in more on the corporate side, and less examples of actual crimefighting. But even Starlight was complaining it's more about public appearances and less about doing superhero stuff.

What I found more amusing and meta is that Esme BIanco, who plays Eliza/Watcher Woman/grown-up Jane Chadwick, who Margo goes to see later in this episode, also plays Ros on Game of Thrones and is the same red-haired prostitute that Joffrey ties to the bed and shoots with his crossbow.

My God, it's full of TAGS!

I had the same problem with the Harry Potter movies (and I don't imagine the books were that different). There is this powerful magician, who is out to murder school children who are the next generation of magicians. There is NO ONE in the magical community who steps up and says, "Hey, wait, we can't let these children fight this big bad guy on their own"? It would be different if the young heroes some evil magic that no one else knew about, and felt they had to face it alone because no adults would believe it. Everyone in the magic realm knows who Voldemort is. Yes, it adds an air of mystique for him to be so powerful people don't want to speak his name. But at what point do the grownups in this world say, "He shall not be named is coming to take over whether we speak his name or not. Maybe we should be fighting him too, instead of letting inexperienced children do it."

Just my two cents, after binging the first three seasons. I was disappointed in the final episode. This was my favorite season, the characters seem to be hitting their stride. So many wonderful moments that make this show unique. I have watched the "Under Pressure" scene multiple times on YouTube. It all seemed to be coming together. Other parts of the finale seemed to work just fine, the Fairy Queen sacrificing for her people, Margo becoming High King and getting her eye back (a FAIRY eye, now), all the hard work on the quest, everything but the climax. So, in a matter of minutes, we have: Elliot shoots the monster to save Q (OK, didn't have a problem with that) Alice makes a deal with the library to siphon off the magic Alice freaks out and suddenly wants to prevent ALL magic The monster can take over someone's body The Dean has made a deal with the library The douchebag librarian can travel to Blackspire, but Penny 23 couldn't? Julia is suddenly a God, and just as suddenly she's not The monster takes over Elliot and sets up the next season We lose all the keys We get back all the keys just as quickly There are potions available to make everyone forget their memories and everyone willingly takes it I'm sorry, but to me, the finale was a muddled, horrible mess with too many storylines and too many sudden revelations and changes. I like sudden revelations. I like when things turn on a dime. But not so many in the same scene! It seems all smashed together. I realize characters sometimes do stupid things, but when people have to act stupid to advance the plot, it smacks of lazy writing. If douchbag librarian can travel to Blackspire, why can't Penny 23 astral project there and do some recon? Why does Q keep his single serving God power to himself, and piss it away so quickly? Why didn't he just kill the monster with it? Why didn't Q ask Ora for some information about the monster? Why did Q rush to CONFRONT the monster? If the team had immediately used the keys, they all would have magic back. Why wasn't the team prepared for Alice to act all crazy? She's already revealed she was willing to screw them all over, they should have kept an eye on her. Why didn't someone use battle magic to stop Alice from casting? She took five minutes ginning up the spell. Why did Dean Fogg make a deal with the library? He would have had magic back, unregulated by the library, if he had supported the team. Biggest question of all: Why did the writers spend most of a season drawing up an incredibly involved and fascinating quest, just to screw up the resolution in the last ten minutes of the episode? Any other kind of ending would have been better.

They did. The mushroom fields that were growing new fairies in Fillory. All the things she was gathering (earth worms, etc.) were to help grow the mushrooms.

The magic of the keys (as part of the quest, or maybe on their own when the quest is finished) is that they CREATE doors, and send you where you need to go. The clock sends people to all kinds of places.

Because the fairy land was dying. But it advances the story line. They all move the story along in small ways and large.

I think Harriet and Victoria are dead. If anyone actually dies in this show.

So, since Library!Rapunzel said she is NOT Alice, any speculation on why she looks exactly LIKE Alice? During Alice's short story, I was worried that she would make a deal with Head Librarian to get the books she wanted, and in return she would be sent back in time ten thousand years and be stuck in that room for Penny to find.

All eight characters singing Under Pressure and solving three separate dilemmas at once was the best scene of the entire series. Even if some of them cannot sing, they apparently CAN sing well enough to save their lives (or someone else's). I am really loving this show, and not looking forward to waiting week to week for Season Four.

The deal was the tub (a personal item belonging to the queen) for the eggs. She agreed to it, then they clarified that the deal was with all of Narnia Fillory. The tub could have been ANYTHING that belonged to the queen, the whole point was by making the deal, everyone in Fillory could see the fairies. I think the tub was the only personal thing the queen brought from fairyland.

It's enough to make you grow your hair long and stop washing it. Eww, never mind. Almost enough. But I think I can pull off the emo whining if need be.

Every interaction between our heroes and the Chatwins occurs in the book. Q just doesn't realize it until it happens. That's the beauty of timey-wimey stuff. Jane's body had the key because she always carried it, so it remained with her physical body. The Jane that Margo met was in a magical bubble that exists across all time. That Jane knew she was dead, but she hadn't experienced it yet. What is hard about the letter from Q? He gave the letter to someone, said to wait until a High Queen Margo shows up, and give it to her on her wedding day. It just took decades to be delivered, that's all. Again, timey-wimey stuff. If you are part of the change in time, you aren't affected as much. When Q and Elliot first arrived for the mosaic challenge, I thought they said it was ten years before Jane showed up. Apparently, it was more like fifty years. But it's not more than fifty years at most from that point with Jane and when our heroes become Kings and Queens of FIllory. It's not HUNDREDS of years. Q would have grandkids running around, not thousands of descendants, at least in any view of Fillory we have seen. Incidentally, did Jane and Martin become King and Queen? In the Narnia books there were four Pevensies. It looks like there are just two Chatwins, so I think the answer is no. That knight was ancient. Whatever person it was who gave him the questions, it's not our heroes, at least in any visit they have made so far. I think that's one question that won't be answered. It certainly wasn't Jane or Martin, who were never King and Queen (so they wouldn't have the authority), and weren't living in the 1990s on Earth prior to visiting Fillory.

When Benedict shows up again in Season 3, I had to go find this scene again because of your comment. Josh, Tick, and Rafe are standing in the hallway with two red shirts... um, er, PALACE GUARDS behind them. Prince Ess has his men kill the two red shirts. No speaking characters died in this scene. Damn, EB, your comment had me thinking Benedict was dead all this time...

His telepathic abilities (like Freddy Kreugering into your dreams) are magic based. His travelling is innate. So, he doesn't have telepathy right now, but he still can travel, like other magical creatures are still magical. He specifically says to Kady before he dies that the background noise is gone (hearing other's thoughts).

I believe when he died, the restriction was lifted. Or when magic ended. SOMETHING in the past two seasons, so many things happened to him I can't keep track.

Not really a spoiler from Season 3 Episode 1, but a member of the Board visits the Dean and it is established that there are companies that make money off of magic (like RecoveredMagicians.com), they form the Board of Trustees which funds the school (which probably means no tuition or low tuition?) and that is how the Dean can place students in jobs so easily. Glad they filled that in for us.

So, in the RECAP for Episode 1 Season 3, they show the same conversation with Nifflin!Alice and cut to the scene with the angler beast, to clear it up for any of us who weren't certain. Yeah, I'm convinced. I was convinced after reading other opinions online. But I still want to point out, they didn't use the word "lamprey" in the show prior to her meeting it (and killing it). She and others called it an angler beast. I think I like angler beast better. Still not happy with SyFy for not making ALL their previous episodes available online. But thankfully Netflix has released Season 3 and I am binging this week waiting for Season 4 to start on regular ol' cable TV. In case there was any doubt, it's established that magical beasts still have magic, it's only humans casting spells that are shut off. But Penny can still travel, so his is more an innate ability than a learned spell. Learned spells still don't work (except for Julia). Minor, minor minor spoiler for first five minutes of Season 3.

More than likely, the writer's haven't thought the idea through. The wards around Brakebills that made it invisible and kept people out simply went away, so they show a chain link fence and "keep out" signs to indicate the change. They probably haven't considered the physical effects. For example, what about Brakebills South? They used magic to get there, and to send food there. Does Mayakovsky starve now?

I'm not convinced the angler beast she killed was the lamprey. We didn't see everything Nifflin!Alice did offscreen. She may have killed/wounded/aggravated other mystical beasts in her search for Friar Joseph. I guess we will see next season. On that note, I just LOVED the fact they showed an angler beast on this show. In a world of magic, there are magical creatures. We have only seen a few, and I am totally down with a show that features magical creatures living alongside us, hiding in the shadows. More D&D creatures, please!