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Didn't EBR mention a scene coming up with Felicity and Curtis about the start-up at a con? I think in one of the panels with DR? And I think she mentioned he was there? Now I'm really wondering if Curtis hacks their chips and the scene EBR was talking about is the aftermath of that?

Rewatch notes: So Cayden made $50 million from illegal black market drug deals disappear from a pharmaceutical company and that was the final straw for ARGUS to take him in for "multiple violations of federal law"? Were all those "violations" along the same lines? If so, I guess ARGUS was concerned about what else he could do? But I still don't get why that means holding him like they did. I'm not hearing about anything that he did before ARGUS took him in that's so bad? Hearing Lance say that he's not concerned about Siren in the fight against Dinah the second time around, ugh. So he thinks Siren would beat Dinah. Which could mean Siren would kill Dinah. But that's totally okay because ... this stranger looks like his daughter and therefore is? So she's more important than the life of a woman who's protected him and helped him in the past/everyone else? That last Lance/BS scene is even creepier the second time around. I'm half-expecting Lance to tell Black Siren next, "Remember when we did this?" and start bringing up things he and Laurel did. Maybe he'll call up his ex-wife: "Dinah, our daughter's alive." It's at the point that I probably wouldn't be surprised by anything Lance does while trying to turn Siren into his daughter. Speaking of daughters, I'm honestly wondering if Rene even remembers he has one since I don't think he's mentioned her once since the bomb became a real threat in these last two episodes? Where is she? Next time Rene says "this doesn't change anything," I need Oliver to go, "You're right. It doesn't. We're not asking you to come back. We don't want you back. Ever."

I have to admit I've thought this is possible. Could be why Oliver holds Felicity back? But would they really have Curtis do that? If he does, I don't see how OTA would ever accept him back so the split would have to be permanent.

I'm kind of hoping OTA gets involved in the BC/BS drama partly because they're worried about Lance (and Thea, if perhaps he brings her in to help first? Could explain her standing next to BS behind the lamp in that photo?) getting caught in the middle and hurt/killed? I don't see anyone from OTA going, "She's our Laurel!" Oliver and Felicity should have a pretty good understanding of doppelgangers and the fact that they're not the same people after the crossover.

I wish 614 would really be an intervention for Lance. “Quentin, we’re worried about you. She’s not your daughter.” I’d rather see that than any more of this OTA/NTA nonsense. I’m expecting Rene to throw out a “This doesn’t change anything, hoss,” mid-fight as OTA and NTA fight each other, when it wouldn’t make sense since it hasn’t made sense the other times he’s said it.

I really hope she's not because if she is, you would think she'd be Felicity's villain. But Cayden was supposed to be Felicity's villain and we know how that turned out. I really don't want to sit through that again.

Not clear yet. Doubtful. But they will need to redeem Lance after this arc. At least for me.

Question: Can someone explain the photo BS had? Was it of E1LL and Lance? Did Lance give it to her and I forgot? Are we supposed to think she took it because she's maybe not totally evil? Or are we supposed to think it might be BS with her father and she lied about his death?

Don't you know? She hesitated to brutally kill Vince, so that's all that matters.

Wasn't impressed. Michael Emerson deserved SO MUCH BETTER. So did Cayden James. I would really like someone to tell me why ARGUS saw Cayden as this big, bad threat because I still don't get it. Also, did they keep him in a storage container with a bag over his head for 8 months?! William was stupid. Lance continues to be stupid about Black Siren. The newbies continue to be stupid. I'm going to need someone to duct tape Rene's mouth shut every time he's around OTA. As for Dinah ... I get she's grieving, but I wish she wouldn't be stupid about it. She's apparently good enough to be promoted to lieutenant months after moving to Star City, but she doesn't realize Siren's not smart enough to pull off what she claims she did? Still not impressed by Dragon and I'm surprised he's apparently not just some thug who happens to have a name? If I had to sit through that episode, they should've given me some quality Olicity and OTA scenes. Why didn't they? Also, I've given up on even hoping for Felicity/Thea (having them stand next to each other does not count, Arrow) or Felicity/Lance scenes. I'd actually rather not any Felicity/Lance scenes right now, not the way he's acting about Black Siren.

Uh, the team isn't "fractured in a million pieces."

ME and Cayden deserved better than this.

I wish Cayden had told Lance about the guard BS didn't have to kill, about all the times BS wanted to kill, etc.

Hold on, did they keep Cayden in that container for the 8 months they had him? WTF? I had thought in 519 that they had just put him there at that point in time. ARGUS, you have some explaining to do.

Not again. Seriously, shut up, Rene.

Why couldn't Lance have been knocked out? Ugh.

Shut up, Rene.

They're too busy having BS call Lance "daddy" and having Lance act like she's his daughter. They couldn't do anything to take away from that.

I'm still not hearing anyone say anything about why BS couldn't have killed Cayden instead in that room. I'm also still not getting why ARGUS acted like Cayden was this big, bad, major threat.

Ugh, Cayden just had to say that about BS, didn't he? I can see the "she can be my daughter!" thoughts in Lance's head.

Shut up, Dragon.

Wait, did Lance just show concern for someone who's NOT HIS DAUGHTER?

This is so stupid. So, so stupid.

Seriously, Lance, Black Siren is not your daughter. You're making me feel bad for your actual daughter. And I didn't like E1-LL.

I need Black Siren to never call Lance "daddy" again.