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After what we've had to sit through so far this season? We deserve many, many "glorious makeouts."

If Maya isn't Blackstar, maybe Blackstar is someone who knows where Maya is? And how sad is it that I can see Dinah, as Oliver and Felicity's "friend," knowing that's why Felicity went underground and just omitting that from what she's told Roy and William. Roy and William: "Dinah, didn't you think to tell us Felicity was looking for her daughter?" Dinah shrugs: "Felicity changed. She refused to work with us when we decided her family didn't matter (again). She was wrong, evil, etc. We're right." Roy and William call the cops on Dinah: "We'd like to report a vigilante sighting."

For me, it's not just that Diggle is all Mr. ARGUS and acting like he doesn't care about Felicity. It's that he manages to find time to care about Dinah, Curtis and Zoe and is now acting like he's the wronged party ("you pushed me out"). Yep. And I HATE that he's a better friend to NTA, people who turned their backs on him, Oliver and Felicity last season. They really are never going to bring that up again, are they? Never going to bring up the fact that Curtis hacked the chip in Diggle's arm and deliberately hurt him. Honestly, if this is the Diggle we're getting from now on, I don't even know if I want to see him in the flashforwards. We'd probably just get more Diggle/Dinah scenes, maybe one line about "dead" Felicity, probably "I tried to stop her, I really did, but she refused to listen."

Yep. I can't get over the fact that Diggle hasn't once asked Felicity how she is, but I expect him to act like he's been a "good brother" to Oliver and has been doing everything he can for his family. I'm already angry at Diggle for things he hasn't done yet, just based on what he has done these past few episodes. True. The problem is that in S3, he was at least siding with Oliver, over Felicity, yes, but still with Oliver. Now, he's actually siding against them both and doesn't even seem to realize it/care. I doubt it's deliberate. I don't think they even realize that they're making it seem like Diggle's priorities are as follows: 1. His family (pretty much the only one I agree with, though his family is off-screen 90% of the time and he doesn't even really mention them) 2. ARGUS 3. Dinah 4. Curtis 5. Rene 6. Zoe 7. Random ARGUS agents 8. Dinah 9. Curtis 10. Star City 11. ARGUS 12. Catching bad guys who aren't Diaz 13. That painting 14. The GA suit, if they ever feel like bringing that/conflict between Oliver and Diggle back ... 50? Maybe Oliver? 51? Felicity and William

Rewatched the Felicity/Diggle scene and I'm even more pissed. "I didn't give up. You pushed me out." "I just hope when this war's over, you still come out a hero." Shut up, Diggle. I feel like Diggle likes to put Felicity in a box and doesn't like when she steps out of it. Honestly, if someone just tuned in this season and tried to figure out the relationships on this show, they'd never think Felicity and Diggle have known each other the longest/Diggle even cares about Felicity. Also, it's too bad the "twist" of the FFs isn't going to be that Dinah and the "Vigilante Resistance" are the bad guys.

Theory: Felicity and Oliver went underground in the future for something related to Maya. Just like no one wanted to help in the present, everyone turned their backs on them in the future but are acting like they are the problem. Just like everything Felicity and Oliver are doing in the present is for their family, so is everything they do in the future.

I’m guessing Stan when he breaks into prison?

The more I think about it, Dinah has been showing more concern for Laurel, her boyfriend’s killer, than Felicity, her “friend,” in the present or future. UGH.

Probably. “I wanted to help her. I called her every day, asked how she was, offered up my guest room, had ARGUS agents protecting her 24/7. She got away from them. No idea how that happened.” Okay, probably an exaggeration. I’m just really annoyed that none of Felicity’s “friends” seem to care about her in the present or future.

Guys, Felicity is totally dead and evil in the future because Dinah says so. Also, because Felicity is totally dead and evil and they have to make sure we "know"/believe that, no one can mention Oliver. Honestly, I'm Team Felicity, no matter what, considering how much (little) her "friends" care about her in the present. Still don't like Diggle, to the point where I don't even want any more Felicity/Diggle scenes right now and I'm someone who's wanted more of those. Not like this. Not with Diggle saying Felicity pushed him out when he hasn't even asked if she's okay. In fact, no one's asked if she's okay. Don't even get me started on NTA being so happy about getting Diaz that Felicity might as well not have been standing there. Don't even get me started on Curtis. Oh, and Stanley's a bad guy. I'm so surprised. *rolls eyes* Really pissed we've now had more Oliver/Laurel scenes than Oliver/Felicity scenes this season.

Hold on, did Diaz say "impossible" when he saw the new GA? As in he thought it was Oliver? As in he hasn't heard the numerous reports about a new GA?

Gotta love how Felicity is totally evil, but she bought a fern.

Honestly, if Felicity was dead/evil/etc. they wouldn't be revealing all of this so quickly. And if they are, again, bad, bad writing. And I'll be so pissed because Felicity deserves better, even if she goes 100% full-on evil.

Loved the Felicity/Anatoly scene. We need more of those two together.

Just had a thought: Felicity's going to "come out of this still a hero" just as she's revealed to be alive in the future -- and was being a hero underground. Bam.

He started talking one day, complaining about how he's totally had it really hard and his friends are just the worst, and they all left. They even built themselves another room to do their work in.

Shut up, Curtis. I'm not even listening to you, but just in case.

Diggle, Felicity didn't push you out. You told her to "move on." You've been acting like you'd rather she was in witness protection where you didn't have to deal with her. Ugh.

Doubt it. We're more likely to get another "move on" or "go back to witness protection."

I feel like we're only seeing Felicity like this because of what they're telling us about her in the future. So we're supposed to think that it's possible everything they're saying in the future is 100% true because of her decisions in the present.

On the one hand, Felicity needs to take a step back. On the other hand, I'm just so annoyed that no one seems to care about her that part of me doesn't blame her?

Hated Felicity begging Laurel for help. Hated Curtis the entire scene. Not a fan of any of the flashforwards in this episode so far.

Right? Also annoyed that apparently Felicity is dead, yet they're still going on about how she wronged William apparently. And no mention of Oliver yet. I would think as soon as Roy and William heard Felicity was dead, one of them would ask about Oliver. You know, William's father? Or are they too busy on the "Felicity is totally dead" train to mention him yet?

Yeah, this is just stupid. And she just happened to be "murdered" "a few weeks ago"? Honestly, if this is true and she is dead, bad writing.

"She was murdered. But she went underground, aka I didn't see it happen, but totally dead."