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Me too! It’s not that often that we get to see truly altruistic acts on this show - any time anyone ever seems to do something nice for someone else on the show, there always seems to be an ulterior motive. But Mike’s willingness to help Natalie’s mom was a rare treat of genuine kindness, especially after Mike seeming to be so checked out of his relationship with Natalie on the reunion show. His generosity simply appears to have been a kind act by a genuinely decent and caring guy. How refreshing.

It seems Veronica took a page out of Natalie’s playbook this week when she exploded on Justin for not rearranging his life plan for her. Except at least in Natalie’s case when Josh told her he was unsure about having more kids she didn’t start yelling at him. She was disappointed and confused about what to do, but she didn’t go on the attack or have a full meltdown, as she is prone to do. On the contrary, when Justin revealed his Florida plan to Veronica she got angry and berated him (eventually storming out after he confirmed the move this week). He barely knows Veronica yet she expected him to put her and her desire to have a relationship ahead of his needs or the needs of his kid(s)???? Again, they barely know each other! They’ve had a date or two and a getaway weekend filled with a cold sore and some lingerie. That’s it. I am so puzzled by these women who expect men they barely know to be fully committed and rearrange their entire priority list to favor them after just a few dates. Uggghhhhh. I think it was a big mistake for Veronica to go on this single life show - it’s not putting her in a very favorable light. In the other shows she usually seems pretty level headed but now that she’s a main character in this show she’s coming off as needy and hot-headed with rather unrealistic expectations. I hope the “fame” and the paycheck were worth it.

So what is it exactly that Kody does with his time? He’s too busy to have decent relationships with his kids (except Robyn’s). He’s too busy to move his stuff out of Christine’s house. He’s seemingly quite put out by having to go to Coyote Pass for Janelle. I don’t really ever see him doing much of anything except complaining about what he’s supposed to be doing. Except when he found the time to spend 4 days away for his friend’s wedding (after shredding every other family member who ever traveled during Covid), where he proceeded to complain to the groom about marriage. Nice. Has there ever been a man on TV who was more selfish??? He’d have to at least be in the top 5. He truly does not care about anyone else but himself. Correction: he cares about himself and Christine’s furniture. What an ass.

Justin took the words out of my mouth when he said that Alexis made it seem like she was doing Justin a favor by saying yes. Like she’s the prize to be won. Or worse, that she settled for the less spectacular Justin. I was hoping he would have realized that and said that that wasn’t good enough in the actual DD moment with the experts (sort of like what Krysten said earlier in the season that she didn’t want to settle when Dr Pepper said there was “enough there”). But I so wish Justin had been the one to pull the rip cord, not Alexis, but at least the rip cord was pulled. But ugh, now Alexis can run around town saying 4 different guys wanted her to be their wife. Great. That will surely make her all the more endearing.

Season 4: His name was Derek (married to Heather). The show referred to the drugs as him always “smoking cigarettes” but it came out later that it wasn’t cigarettes and he was actually high as a kite the whole time. They didn’t make it past the honeymoon. They may have been the first couple to quit mid-season.

I remember Johnny the same way. Particularly during the reunion show when he was extra chummy with that bougie girl, Myrla, knowing that it was really upsetting Marla’s ex-husband Gil (so much so that Gil left the stage). That sealed the deal for me. Johnny deliberately poured salt in Gil’s wounds, when Gil did absolutely nothing to him. Not a good look.

This comment made me laugh out loud because the fact that you are questioning the screening shows exactly how poor the process actually is. In short yes, but no…the show claims they do extensive interviews, personality tests, background checks, home visits, etc, all to ensure that the “experts” have made perfect matches. They even devote multiple episodes to the pairing process. But there is example after example that they do a terrible job at it or they are deliberately ignoring all of their screening metrics to create more explosive pairings for more interesting TV. Hard to say for sure which it is, probably both, but in past seasons they’ve cast some doozies. A few examples: one guy threatened to kill his wife and her family, one woman was arrested on an outstanding warrant as they were trying to board the plane to go to their honeymoon, another guy seemed to have a pretty obvious drug problem, others were dating other people while being married at first sight and one was engaged to someone else just a few months before the program started filming. Even basic characteristics like someone with a fear of allergy to dogs will get paired with someone with multiple aggressive dogs. It’s nuts. You get the idea…. Pretty much every single person on this forum could do a better job of matching people than these supposed “experts”. We all detect the obvious personality mismatches with these couple after just one episode.

It looks like Alexis is going to whip out some sort of written gripe list on DD. Even if she softens the message with some niceties here and there, the fact that she needed to write down and recite her insults for the world to hear in just the right way is just plain awful. Even Morgan took the time to at least memorize her speech of insults to Binh! Alexis seems to be missing the ability to self-sensor. She just spews crap without any consideration that her words may have a negative impact on someone else. Her husband…the other couples…it doesn’t matter. For someone who clearly thinks she chooses her words so wisely, she sure is mean when she does it. But she is so self absorbed, I guess it makes sense that she doesn’t consider anyone else. My jaw is still on the floor from when she turned Justin’s selfless act of giving up his dog into something that might negatively affect her - essentially fearing that he would hold it over her head like she owed him something. The selfishness knows no bounds.

I had been impressed with Nate’s insightful comments for several of the past episodes, but that fell apart a bit in this episode. He was all over the place, and as Stacia said, he was thinking he heard her say something she didn’t then started running away with that. I’m really hoping that “fight” was entirely producer driven and that’s why none of it really made sense. Maybe production asked them to create some sort of drama at the 11th hour since things were going too well with them and production wanted DD to be more of a question mark. It was the first time I ever felt like the two of them were talking at each other and neither of them was listening.

Janelle rocks. I think she’s only stayed with Kody for as long as she has because she’s had too many other things to focus on (namely her kids) to bother leaving him. She really just doesn’t seem to give a sh**. It seems pretty clear she doesn’t respect Kody at all (ex. When she shot down kody’s declaration of his patriarchy or the choosing the dogs (lol)). I feel like she’s internally rolling her eyes every time Kody speaks with her. And now her 5th wheel is perfect. It’s like her moving into the RV is deliberately setting Kody up to fail as it fully exposes his all of his selfishness. Love it.

Yep. And last week he screwed up Ysabel’s age at her party (he thought she was 17 when she was actually 18). He’s such a prize. It still stuns me that he wanted 50/50 time with Christine’s daughter, yet clearly he barely knows her kids. I think he wanted 50%, not because he actually wanted 50% but because he wanted to take 50% away from Christine. Partly to punish Christine for wronging/humiliating him, partly to try to make Christine’s life as difficult as possible, logistically, and partly to try to regain control since he’s got that stupid patriarch delusion going on. It also stuns me that every week Kody seems to manage to do or say something even more moronic than the week before. it’s remarkable.

I’m really hoping Justin and Alexis split on decision day, then when the reunion show airs, production includes footage of him bringing his dog back home. ❤️ I’m sure his buddy will give the dog back - it will have only been a week or two at that point. I wonder if watching the show back has helped Alexis recognize just how selfish she is. I cannot believe that she even managed to turn the selfless act of Justin giving up his dog into something about her and how she didn’t want him to hold it over her that he made such a sacrifice. I don’t know if she is even capable of being appreciative of such a sacrifice because I don’t think she actually knows what it is like to sacrifice. She just doesn’t seem to do it. Everything is about her, expecting things to be done for her, not by her. Expectation instead of appreciation. Man, what a piece of work. I really hope Justin finds a fabulous woman who truly appreciates him. Alexis is definitely not that woman.

Talking about the after-party for a second…why oh why do they continue to waste a chair on someone we don’t know and has nothing to do with anything??? A podcaster? I have zero interest in what these people have to say. Zip. I wonder if Morgan or Binh had been scheduled for these episodes and production needed to scramble for inexpensive replacements. I have no other explanation since this change just seems so pointless. Also, every single promo for the after party mentions “spilling all the exclusive tea in tonight’s juicy episode” (or something like that…I try to block it out! Lol). I hate it. To me it validates that the show is deliberately creating drama purely for our entertainment, which we all pretty much know is true, but I still like to at least pretend that the show tries to match people because they are well suited for each other. Not because production is trying to entertain a tv audience with a bunch of mismatched freaks poised for conflict.

That whole conversation in the car was just weird (and really bad!). It’s one thing to not want to have to explain his marriage to every single Tom, Dick and Harry at the conference, but for Mitch to to refer to himself as “single Mitch” (more than once!) was just not cool. Especially when he said it in the same conversation when he described all the cute girls at the conference and all the partying he did. Jeez dude…to steal a page out of Miguel’s playbook, “READ THE ROOM!” Hands down the best part of this episode was getting to see Krysten’s pug (Luna?) rockin her life jacket and holding her own on the board. Adorable.

It would be so fun to be a kid in Stacie’s house. Rules: Don’t go in the living room. Don’t go in the dining room. Take your shoes off. Put your socks on (god forbid foot oils get on the carpet. Oh the horror!). Don’t leave anything in the sink….the list goes on and on… essentially, childhood there would likely involve restricting “play” to within 10 square feet of a tile floor somewhere (but not the precious black tile in the bathroom!), no toys in sight anywhere, and eating over the sink (and cleaning the sink immediately when finished). Yay! Fun!

Whoa whoa whoa. Have you forgotten about Danielle and Mohamed? Jorge and Anfisa Haaa. So true. The list of toxic 90 day relationships is so so so long. I would add Nicole and Azan to the list, for sure. Remember when Azan convinced Nicole to postpone their wedding to use the money to fund a “store”…a store that never existed? (it really pains me to see these single moms funneling money to their con artist fiancés abroad, but that’s a whole other topic). And I think Angela and Mikel might be in the running for the “most unhealthy relationship” award too. Aside from all the screaming, mental abuse and violent behavior, Angela is the queen of “do as I say, not what I do”. I can’t even imagine what Mikel’s car would have looked like if Mikel had posted dancing TikTok’s duets with another woman with whom he openly flirted and planned to go visit, like she has been doing with her ex-stripper Canadian friend. World War III.

So what is going on with Bilal and Shae that has caused multiple “oopsies” that could have led to Shae being pregnant, despite using condoms??? Sure, condoms can break, but not again and again unless they’re decades old. Maybe Bilal is so tiny that the condom just keeps falling off??? Just an idea…lol.

Agreed. Bilal is a condescending ass but Shae definitely has a very romanticized idea of motherhood. And how comically naive to think she can put the baby “ on a program” so that she can continue to get 10 hours of uninterrupted sleep a night. Haaaaaaaaa. Good luck with that! Unless they hire a full time nanny to do all the heavy lifting, she is in for quite a rude awakening. I’m trying to picture the two of them with baby spit up on themselves, their furniture or their car leather. And just imagine when the baby gets older and first tries to eat by himself, inevitably getting food everywhere….on the highchair, on the baby’s clothes, on their clothes, on the floor, on the walls, on the ceiling, etc.. And god forbid a little baby poop squeezes out of the side of a diaper at some point. Bilal freaked out when Shae got water on the floor. And when she put her shoes on his car seat. And when he put her hairpins in his couch. A baby is a whole different level of messy. Often gross messy. I’m chuckling just thinking about this pair adjusting to baby mess…pure comedy. Good luck kids!

Interesting, Miguel said he wanted Lindy to be able to read the room when he was tired and thus she should not have asked him to take pictures of her, yet when they were on the carriage ride and she was clearly enjoying the scenery (the horses, the bunnies, etc.), he completely failed to recognize that she was enjoying the scenery, in other words he failed to “read the room” and demanded that she ignore the scenery and focus on him while he rapid-fire recited his rap-like poetry to her. I guess in Miguel’s world, he is in control of “the room” at all times and Lindy is expected to accommodate. He’s tired, she’s excited…”the room” is tired. He’s reciting poetry and she’s enjoying the scenery, “the room” is reciting poetry. For a guy who talked so much about red flags with Lindy (and granted there are few!), his controlling, selfish behavior is quite a red flag of its own. As is his tendency to stamp every single argument with a proclamation that her supposedly utterly unacceptable behavior might force him to end the relationship. That is just plain toxic.

I have to give props to Stacia for recognizing that Lindy and Miguel were going through something and interrupted their in-bed chat to break up the tension. And nothing breaks up the tension like the gift of a sex swing. Complete with a hands on lesson! Quite the gift! Lol. She was right though - they were talking in circles and both were just getting more and more frustrated and resolving nothing. Stacia lightened the mood brilliantly. It was exactly what the doctor ordered.

This! That’s all I kept thinking to myself…instead of dancing with Lindy at her one and only prom, Miguel was rehashing and dissecting that argument over and over again until he broke her down to a puddle of apologetic mud. Jeez dude, just put your gripes aside for one night. They were just talking in circles anyway.

Natalie should write a how-to book on dating. It would be hysterical. Some highlights of her “tips”: 1. Expect exclusivity before the first date. Your date will love it. 2. Be sure to label your relationship immediately and demand a prominent title: “the love of my life”, “my future wife”, “the mother of my children” will suffice. Such title should be granted by date 1 or 2. Your date will love it. 3. Expect a discussion about having a child together by date 2. Your date will love it. 4. Be extraordinarily and irrationally rude to your date, including storming off and slamming at least one door, with the expectation that he must then fight for you (i.e. beg) to get you “back”. Your date will love it. 5. Be rude to your date’s friends. It (somehow?) shows that you rank higher than them in the social hierarchy of his relationships. Your date will love it. And maybe some of the other women of 90 Day can write an Epilogue to Natalie’s book discussing the virtues of throwing a drink in your dates face. Again, your date will love it.

Omg…once again Alexis stirred the pot by revealing “non-public” information about another couple - this time Mitch and Krysten, specifically noting how when Mitch and Krysten were first married Mitch said he didn’t want Krysten to dress up or wear makeup. Even Mitch was surprised that that has gotten out. Jeex Alexis. She needs to mind her own business. Mitch is a dolt but why does she need to blurt out private crap about the others couples all the time? Rotten move. Again.

I am such a fan of Krysten. The way she handled Mitch slurping his food was perfect…she totally noticed it (in such a funny way) and questioned him in such a soft and diplomatic way. And her conclusion was so her: ’I’m just going to go with that he was really hungry”. I applaud her for saying something about it to him directly rather than just complaining to the cameras or to the other girls - and the way she did it and her ability to find a kind way to excuse his poor table manners says a lot about her. She didn’t demand that he stop. Or call him names. Or say she wasn’t attracted to him. Or say she wanted to change him. She laughed about it. It was great. So what a contrast it was when, just moments later, Mitch proceeded to tell the camera that he needed to figure out a way to tell Krysten that he is only attracted to her when she looks natural (so no makeup, or silk shirts, or whatever else she does). There ABSOLUTELY was the implication that he expected her to change and only look natural all the time (which he then confirmed when he talked to her sister). Ugggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. This man! In a nutshell, she accepts him and all his judgey, demanding Mitch-ness but he wants to change almost everything about her - her appearance, her commitment to the environment, her business venture…heck, he even made her change her jello shot glasses! Mitch basically wants a female version of himself and is quite inflexible about it. How did the experts not see this when they were casting them together?

I couldn’t help but laugh at Morgan discussing her “softer side”. Clearly we never got to experience this lovely side of her but I would imagine it looks a lot like this…