RHJunkie

Yeah, it's certainly not easy but I think a lot of people don't realize that throwing fists exposes your weakness not your toughness. The only thing in the world you have power over is yourself. You allow someone to let you lose control, you've given all of your power to them. When you choose not to react, you allow the focus to remain on the person that is making a fool of themselves with their words. When you react similarly or with violence, you shift the focus to yourself and people will forget how stupid the other person was being...because they're now preoccupied with how much more stupid you are instead. If they stopped feeding Kenya the reactions she wants, they'd have a season's worth of film all showcasing her bad behavior, no reactions, therefore making her behavior even more reprehensible.

Yolanda wasn't bitchy to LVP's face but according to Kyle and Kim, she had made some comments about LVP that were addressed at the reunion. Kyle and Kim insisted that Yolanda said it. Yolanda denied it. Andy then asked Lisa who she believed and she didn't believe Yolanda made those comments. I recall the reunion vividly where Kyle was sitting on the other couch across from LVP and Kim was sitting next to LVP. Kim turned to LVP and basically was shocked that she didn't believe them over Yolanda. I'm a little fuzzy on when they said Yolanda made the comments though but I think it may have been during the Paris trip. If Kyle and Kim were telling the truth (which I personally think they were), then it's possible that Yolanda came on to the show already identifying LVP as the frenemy. If LVP didn't like Yolanda back then, then either she didn't express that to anyone or no one put it out there. It also makes sense that Yolanda coming on the show and only knowing LVP, she wouldn't want to fracture relations with her before building her own friendships/alliances with any of the other women.

The only time violence is okay is when it's in retaliation of someone getting physical with you. If you think that beating someone down for being 'verbally' annoying or aggressive is worth a mugshot and possible prison jumpsuit, then I guess that's your prerogative. Did Porsha's beatdown help her any? No, it didn't because Kenya still comes at her. You know what does work? Ignoring the stupidity around you. Had Porsha jumped up and immediately tried to confiscate the bullhorn rather than attack Kenya, it would have been a lot more acceptable. Both Kenya and Porsha have issues. Kenya hides behind her words and the reason why there are Kenya's in the world is because there are Porsha's in the world that give attention to that behavior.

Eileen's blog pretty much has me fed up. Her truth is based on what Rinna has told her and influenced by her own issues with LVP. LVP apologized initially for exactly what Eileen said she had issue with. LVP laughed during the apology because she felt it was a stupid thing to be offended by. And truthfully, when you're talking to a 'friend' who is saying they're sad that you asked them too many questions about your life, it seems like a strange thing. LVP apologized again, with a straight face, and Eileen still couldn't move on. The apology still wasn't good enough. My take of LVP's apology last night was that she clarified she was sorry, but she also made it clear that the apology was not her own. The apology had to be coached and manufactured in a way suitable for Eileen which only highlights how ridiculous Eileen has been about this whole thing. If you don't accept an apology, then straight up say 'I don't think you're being sincere so we'll just have to leave it at that'. You don't beat a horse until it brays just the way you like. And for Eileen to make herself to be the truth warrior - didn't she lie each time she told LVP that they were good? She couldn't be honest with LVP so she took every chance she could to engage with the larger group about her opinions on LVP and coached Rinna on how to confront LVP. If she was solely sticking up for a friend then there was no reason that she had to behave like a nosey loon trying to listen in on LVP and Kyle's discussion. The reality is that she has taken the word of Rinna and run with it. Rinna is the type of person that will take a conversation, put it in her own words that reflect her understanding of that conversation, not necessarily what was actually said in that conversation. I don't think Eileen is the villain, but I do think that she has such a high opinion of herself and her behavior that she doesn't realize that she's actually playing in the mud with everyone else but delusional enough to think that she's clean. ETA: Also, is it news to anyone that Yolanda and LVP don't like each other? From the time Yolanda came on the scene she was making snide comments about LVP but at that time, LVP was not good with Kyle and Kim so she didn't believe them when they told her that. LVP and Yolanda simply put up with each other and have for a long time. While I think the issue with Ken may have been the straw that broke the camel's back, Yolanda's comments about LVP from the beginning would suggest that it is in fact a Mohamed related issue.

This storyline is so stupid, lol. Rinna and Eileen probably felt very proud - they kept shifting the goal posts until the issue was no longer about Rinna taking it upon herself to bring up Manchusen. I still don't see how LVP and Yolanda's feud has anything to do with why Rinna brought up Manchusen. These women feel vindicated by Kyle 'confirming' Rinna's story. Are these women idiots? Kyle didn't confirm the story. Kyle had a slightly different story. The confirmation was that Kyle believed Rinna's account based on what LVP said to her at the house and based on what she feels she know about LVP. That is not confirming the same story - that is someone who admitting to which side of the story she believes. It is not the same thing. Eileen needs a muzzle. She is nosey and always has to push her mouth in. She's been spokesperson from Rinna for the past two seasons because she needs her puppet to add another voice to her chorus of one. Kathryn was the most level headed of all the women but no one really cared to really listen to her. I can't help but I love Kyle and LVP when they're friends. I think they've come a long way to have that kind of a conversation and not have one or the other storm out, cry, etc. it took her a while to get LVP to shut up but I'm glad that LVP didn't cry and try to be a victim. The fact that she took Kyle's admission and while not happy with it, moved on is another clear example of why I believe Kyle is the only one in the group that she really does care about.

I'm obsessed with this series. I was really young at the time of the actual trial so I haven't seen the real trail footage save for snippets. Why did they make him wear latex gloves when trying on the gloves? It's not like he would have used latex at the time of the murder. And looking at the actual footage (something that Cuba played up in the series), it seemed obvious that he was faking the struggle required to put the gloves on. What I don't understand is that while the jury may have seen him 'struggling' to put it on, the gloves weren't so 'small' that he could not have worn them. And how didn't anyone notice how quickly those gloves were removed? They literally slipped right off of his hands. If leather gloves are too tight, it would also be difficult to remove, even if not as difficult as it was to put on.

Scott and Caitlyn never had a great relationship but I feel like it was more due to Caitlyn than Scott. I think Scott tried but Caitlyn only knew how to have a relationship with people on her terms. In the past, Scott took part in activities of no interest to him but only a means to bond with Caitlyn but it didn't work because Caitlyn took it very seriously and would become insulting and pushy and completely lose the fact that Scott's participation wasn't to be a champion, it was to bond and have Caitlyn like him.Fast forward to now - maybe the good intentions are there but I do agree it seems more like a pay cheque thing but even so, Cait is a new name an face but her behavior was very much the same. Cait wanted to blame it on her hearing though why wouldn't you sit next to the guy to begin with rather than sit across the table and complain that you're not talking to him because you can't hear properly? Scott nailed it on the head - it's not because she can't hear, it's because she doesn't want to listen. Cait still has yet to learn that hearing and listening are not the same thing.

Both her daughters are beautiful but in different ways. Belle has an elegant beauty. Gigi has a youthful, playful beauty. I already think that Bella looks older than Gigi so in the coming years, I guess that may be to the advantage of Gigi in the modeling world. At any rate, Yolanda and Mohamed both produced beautiful children - all 3 of them.

I agree about the etiquette expert. I would assume that part of good etiquette is being warm and inviting to everyone, whether you are a guest or the host. That woman was so sour. I don't blame Jackie for not having a good time. That looked like a snoozefest. I got a good laugh when she was talking about what she learned about sitting up straight and everyone started laughing at her, haha. Dubai is opulent and it's apparently known for its shopping. I guess it's considered one of those 'must try experiences' but I'm not sure how many times someone wants to experience once they've done so already. ETA: Maybe the desert has different rules but it doesn't seem like the Melbourne ladies were as covered as the BH ladies. Gina on the camel had sleeves and her top was low cut. Though there probably is some leniency for circumstances like these as it does serve as a tourist ad in ways.

I love the fact that Frank was on the show. I hate that it took this long to boot him off but at the very least, now a lot more people know about his vile opinions about women. The sad thing is that he's generalized all women for being difficult to work with when he is the singular problem to all of his experiences. He's just about as dumb as a brick to realize it.

PF always makes everything about her. She should thank her lucky stars that her son is keeping his distance. She's trying to plant seeds about his relationship because she feels threatened by it but the distance may be the very thing that will preserve her relationship with him. If this show is any indication, it doesn't seem like it takes much to hit your threshold of tolerance with PF. Lydia continues to be stupid. The scary thing is that I think it's legit. I don't see this as a character for her. Gina's reasons for skipping out on Gamble would have seemed understandable had she not told Chyka that she was having a premiere party. Otherwise it would have made perfect sense that the original plans was a birthday dinner with her sons which turned into the wanting to watch her on Celebrity Apprentice and eating in. I really like Gamble this season and her family seems genuine and precious.

Kandi has had her missteps with her relationship with Phaedra, particularly during this trying time but I don't at all blame or think it's petty for Todd to want the money that was owed to him. I also think Phaedra was reaching big time trying to involve why Todd didn't go to Apollo. When Todd said that Phaedra specifically said that the business dealings were between just the two of them, Phaedra didn't deny this but continue to push the notion that Todd could have asked Apollo. Phaedra made a side comment about how Todd was going after a single mother for her money and I see some here who felt that Kandi and Todd should have let it rest. If Phaedra can throw a party during these 'tough times', she can also pay her debts. Porsha does have a problem and it's good that she's seeking help for it. Everyone has trigger points but anyone with a quick temper should consider ways to manage their emotions. Kenya and Matt seem happy together but Matt is a bit too macho for my liking. If Kenya wants to propagate rumours about someone, it's fair for her to say where she is getting that information from. At the reunion she made it seem like she got the rumours from Google but in Jamaica she made it seem like she's heard these rumours from people in the business. Whether the rumours exist or not is not the issue - being on a reality show would have brought it to light regardless if it was from a HW or the fanbase, but Kenya put it out there because she wanted to hurt and embarrass, without a care for a man's reputation or family. Her issues with her mother just doesn't justify that type of nasty attitude.

Yeah, they're engaged. I remember the scene when everything went down, Katie seemed to be really surprised and she didn't actually say 'yes' and Tom pointed it out to her that he was still waiting for an answer. They seem boring for TV...but then when they talk about their life together, that also seems boring. They aren't really affectionate but people 'love' in different ways and it clearly works for both of them if they're going to get married to each other. Hopefully when they're together alone they talk about other things then the drama going on with their friends from work, haha.

It's kind of unfair to forget the level of crazy Kristen displayed in the season before with her obsessive behavior towards Tom and Ariana. It doesn't seem like Tom initiates conversation about Kristen. A lot of the Tom anger toward Kristen this season seemed to have stemmed from getting heat for not wanting her there for his joint birthday trip. I can't recall Tom giving ultimatums or making a big deal when Kristen shows up at events. He might make a side comment to someone in the area or make a snide remark in his TH. I actually think he genuinely dislikes her. I don't think he has a problem with his friends being friends with Kristen, I think he has a problem with his friends thinking that he needs to be okay with Kristen. Tom is over the top and really thinks a lot of himself (especially as a friend) but I wouldn't say that Tom has made a huge issue about Kristen unless people are trying to confront him about it. I honestly wouldn't get mad at anyone if they didn't want an ex at their birthday party. I get that she's also Jax's friend but if Jax really wanted her there, he should have done something separate. Don't tell someone 'hey it's your birthday, no let's invite that person you can't stand because we happen to like her'.

I don't remember exactly what he said but I think he meant at the time Katie was basically 1/2 a month away from that 6 month ultimatum she gave Tom and he wanted to know how serious or close she came to considering leaving the relationship at that points.

Kyle's version does more mesh with Rinna as both versions single out Kyle. LVP didn't deny or even address what she said to Kyle but she denied ever singling out Kyle to Rinna. If LVP did really say that to Rinna then I can't understand why she would go after Kyle when they're in such a good place. When it comes to LVP's friends on the show (well, whoever it is in that moment), she either adamantly defends them to others OR if that friend has done something that you can't really defend (take your pick with many Brandi incidents), she doesn't defend or admonish in front of a group. From my recollection, she seems to tell them away from the group and she's frank about it in her TH. With that said, the only way I can see Kyle being singled out in both accounts (that is beneficial to LVP's account of things) is if LVP may have said 'me and Kyle' to Rinna but to Kyle she wanted to appear as though 'I got your back, look how concerned I am for you' only it backfired and Kyle took it not as concerned but potentially laying seeds to throw her under the bus just in case.

As someone mentioned before, it often seems like the grievances that are brought against LVP are relatively petty and insignificant. LVP has never 'made up' allegations against the other women. She may gossip about women that she's not on good terms with but it's nothing that the other women don't do and it's always about topics that are already out there and public knowledge. She's not nasty or vile to anyone. She can instigate but I'm not sure if she manipulates. I think this may be the reason why LVP tends to always come out on top with public support and why the women are growing increasingly more irate by the lack of 'consequences' for how she behaves. I'd like to think that viewers aren't so naïve to think that LVP is some innocent flower without flaws (she displays many of those flaws on the show) but however you want to slice it, these women are all responsible for their own words and their own actions and that's it. They allow LVP to become their storyline for an entire season while LVP spends her time showing other aspects of her life. She doesn't get consumed by the storyline where that's all she ever offers the viewers. Then when you look back it, the reaction of the rest of the women, the issue isn't nearly as severe as their anger. They end up looking like lunatics, ranting and raving and endlessly jabbering things as if leading a charge while LVP sits there either confused, hurt, or with a poker face. She brushes things off quickly because the woman hates being vulnerable which is why she can't offer apologies that seem very sincere or admit fault to anything.

I totally saw the change in Erika as well though Kathryn's blog suggests that both her and Erika kept looking at each other bewildered by what was going on. Doesn't mean that Erika wasn't soaking it all up inside but it's also possible that in that moment she was trying to be sympathetic to Rinna after she had that moment where Rinna seemed receptive to giving Erika and Kathryn a fair chance in the group.

She claims gang up because it seems these women can't find any courage unless they're in a large group where they can all throw their daggers at the same time. Whether she's guilty of what she's being accused of or not, it is by definition 'being ganged up' on, lol.

Not to mention, Olivia was the only girl in the house that made comments that suggest she was 'above' the type of behavior that the other girls were engaging in when trying to get rid of the original twins. Diamond went on record that she wasn't participating because she liked the twins and didn't mind them around. So originally Olivia is not a follower and not a bully, but then she happily jumps on board a 'prank' to isolate and attack two new, unsuspecting girls? I agree, Olivia in particular seems to have baggage that should be dealt with in private. Her behavior is scary to me - not just for those around her but for herself.

These women are speaking in tongues. Don't bring to light what's going on off camera if you aren't going to be honest about. They're half assing their stories and there's way too much left up to interpretation. Why would Kyle be singled out at all when this entire time she has been butt buddies with LVP? From what we can tell, if LVP tried to potentially implicate Kyle in the Manchusen mess, that would automatically shine a light on herself as well. They aren't giving proper context to anything and that leads me to believe that this is either a misunderstanding of the truth or this is everyone's way of pointing fingers so that no one will else will want to discuss what they're guilty of. Rinna's rambling at this point (how in the world did that conversation with Erika even happen?). LVP can't and won't admit when she's wrong. Maybe she works in a way that she can rationalize her behaviours through technicalities and semantics. This has all been a mess and a lot of this doesn't make sense. If LVP is as cunning and manipulative as Rinna and Eileen want to give her credit for, shouldn't this plot seem a bit more brilliant than it does scripted and senseless?

And not just any doctor will give you that kind of diagnosis unless they're an oncologist. It is not common practice for anyone in the medical field, right down to the nurses, to discuss results with a patient if the proper tests hadn't been done. I could believe if she originally told the girls that she went to the doctor and they found something that they think may be cervical cancer and I'm too scared to find out for certain. No, she fabricated specific details that just make her look like a horrible human being. She's already developed a pattern for embellishing situation. Evidence was in his telephone conversation with her friend Jamie. She presented the situation to make it seem like the girls didn't believe she ever went to the hospital at all. After the whole house turned on her for her story, retelling the tale to suit her narrative allowed her to get validation from someone to make herself feel better.

Angela is a micromanager. I've been around those and they wear you down and frustrate the hell out of you. She thinks she's taking care of her sister but she needs to let her sister make her own mistakes and learn from it. Angela is too preoccupied with image to ever be as carefree as her sister and I think she's envious of her sister for having that quality. I think a huge crux in their relationship is that Kristina clearly blames Angela for their parents separating and the two of them living apart while growing up. Maybe Angela's 'nagging mother' syndrome stems from trying to make up for that by taking care of her sister. They both act immaturely but their immaturity is reflected in their personalities. Kristina's childish while Angela is an uppity 'I'm always right so listen to me' personality. Neither are able to see beyond their own position in their relationship and I have to agree with you, I'm not sure they can salvage their relationship to the point where they can live together or be very close. The first step for both of them is learning how to discuss their feelings and thoughts without getting into a screaming match. And Angela needs to stop telling her sister that she hates her and wishes they weren't siblings. You can't be 'working so hard' to build a relationship with your sister if you're so easily provoked to hit that low below the belt.

So this is about unearthing the lies being told? In your account, it seems the truth is that Lisa R is the sole originator of the Manchusen diagnosis. She originally claimed someone else came to her with the word and she looked into it and felt bad because she engaged in discussion. Again, Lisa was not manipulated. She listened because it suited her agenda because she had her own issues with Yolanda. It's not my place to convince anyone that Eileen and Lisa aren't guilty of the same thing they're accusing LVP of. So you're free to believe what you will but you won't convince me differently that they aren't all the same sheep in different clothing. And yes, that includes LVP.

The third party was not LVP and Kyle. The third party was the individual that she had the initial conversation with that brought up Manchusen. The only thing that this episode is suggesting is that Lisa had a conversation with LVP and Kyle before the taped discussion that we saw this season. LVP and Kyle didn't deny any of this. They are denying that they were involved in the Manchusen thing. That is the heart of this issue and arguing anything else is Lisa deflecting so that she doesn't have to take all of the blame for this. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if LVP and Kyle did encourage talking about it on camera (though Lisa didn't specifically say that) to get drama going but in no way does that suggest manipulation. I think these women need to pick up a dictionary and learn what 'manipulation' means. No trickery was needed. Lisa did something on camera because it suit her agenda and when it blew up in her face, she's trying to be the victim. Lisa R and Eileen are engaging in the same type of manipulation that they accuse LVP of. At this point, it's all a wash and they're all in the same boat.