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Pillow Talk. It was on last season, too. FWIW, he may have gained weight, but his segments with Annie are hysterical. If I had to choose I'd take Tubby David over Creepy Mark or Abusive Angela.

Do what I do when it comes to reading trash: for every 3 VC Andrews or Nora Roberts' books I throw in one political bio or historical nonfiction. Not an equal ratio, but it DOES give me something nonembarassing to offer when someone asks what I'm reading... 😆

Shew, I hope they're not redeemed. I don't think I could handle that, ha ha. They do look funny, though.

I'm lost, too. With the first reference above, I thought the poster was just being tongue in cheek and making fun of the fact that Nick mentions Harvard in every episode. But then when others started talking about Ball State...

I'm imagining the outcry if Creepy Mark had handed Nikki a pair of handcuffs and ordered her to get her pants off immediately after landing in the US. Or Old Dude #1 bragging about Abby's sexual prowess to his buddies. Or ANY of the men yelling at the women the same way that Grangela yells at Michael. Seriously, I'd start a petition to keep Angela in Africa and bring Michael back to the US in her place, except Africa as a whole has never done anything to me so why should they be punished. As the board's resident redneck/hillbilly I feel the need to apologize for her behavior. We may crumble our cornbread in bowls of milk, cook under the mantra of "anything can be fried", and keep our Christmas lights on all year long (from Jan-Nov they're "party lights"), but most of us DO possess some kind of intellect and decorum.

With my last vaginal birth, I had a complete placental abruption at 33 weeks. It sent me into active labor. The dude inserted the epidural anyway, but since I was having contractions it was difficult. Long story short, he got it in but not in the right spot. The only thing that got numb was my right leg. When it was time to push, they kept telling me to hold my knees apart, but my right leg was like a limp noodle-it just flopped around any old way. I don't get Sumit's game either.Right now I'm just looking at him as a very weak, spineless man who is too scared to say "no" to anything and has extreme avoidance behavior. He probably thinks that if he ignores all the issues then they'll quietly go away. As for the filming, maybe he's just really good at compartmentalizing.

It hadn't crossed my mind that Avery converting might have been subsequent to meeting Omar, but now that someone has mentioned it on here, I totally buy it. That DOES seem like something someone someone could do. I'm starting to wonder, though, if her whole storyline is being mostly fabricated. The whole "I'm moving to Syria" thing sounds like something that could be made up for dramaaaaa, and IMO some of the things her mother says sound rehearsed (not that some of her things aren't legit concerns, though). For all we know, they're happily married and he's packing up as we speak to move to the US. I actually like Omar. I like him better than Avery and her mother. I like Michael better than Angie. I wonder how things would've been if Mollie had met someone like Michael instead of the dingbat (can't remember his name at the moment).

Karine really does need to be on birth control. She's had, what? Two miscarriages and a live birth just in the short time we've seen them? Her body alone needs to rest, and that's before you get into the whole marriage issue. On a lot of the mommy forums, women who don't have "natural births" get quite a bit of shaming. At the end of the day, though, we all carried or children, we all gave birth to them, and we all (or most of us, I guess) love our kids. When you look at them all now, can anyone even tell which ones were the product of a natural birth and which ones had mothers who asked for the horse pills? Nope. If a mother wants to give it a go on her own, then more power to her. But if a woman demands all the modern pain relieving conveniences, then rock on sister. And the whole thing about "I want to feel myself give birth so I don't want anyone to numb me" stuff? Ladies, when you squeeze something the size of a watermelon out of a hole the size of a lemon, you're gonna know it. You're gonna know it for a few weeks after, in fact. No matter how much modern technology we have, being pregnant is work. It's hard. Giving birth, no matter how you do it, is hard. And being a parent for the rest of your life is hard. I wish people would stop the shaming. We're all on equal ground when it comes to having kids and being mothers/fathers.

I think what TLC did to David in Annie in terms of storyline sucks. She is, by far, one of the funniest people I know and they have actually have a sweet, affectionate relationship. Their storyline would have been much more interesting if they'd played it out as it is in reality than trying to focus so much on him being "poor." (And much of that, like him taking all that money from his friend, just isn't true.) I'm glad they have them on Pillow Talk and the audience is starting to see another side to them. They have very self-deprecating humor and they genuinely care about each other. The same goes for Alla and Matt. His friends and family love her and have from the beginning. I know WHY they tried to create the drama with people in his life being suspicious of her, but it really didn't add that much to the narrative.

I think Homeboy is just a spineless twit. He didn't have the balls to "break up" with Jenny and admit that he was married, to tell her not to come when she was planning her move, to tell her the truth about who he was going home to. Just as I assume he didn't have the balls to just immigrate to the USA to marry Jenny if he really loved her that much or to be honest about his relationship with her. The same way he hid behind the "Michael Jones" facade, he has zero backbone and can't stand up to anyone. I think he honestly believed that once Jenny got there he could just go back and forth between the two, acting like everything was okay, and never having to make a real stand or decision. Bastard.

This sounds amazing. I never knew that my ass needed such a thing, but now that I know it does I'm gonna have to break down and buy one. I have mad respect for the women who CHOOSE to go the no pain meds route, but it sounded to me like she didn't have any because the medical facility didn't provide them. Personally, I had a beautiful, loving delivery all 3 times and I was higher than a kite. When they asked me if I wanted an epidural or pain medication, I answered, "What do you mean 'or'?"

I'm getting to the point with this franchise where I'm starting to get pissed. The more we find out about things that are not just recreated for the show but downright fabricated, the less I care and want to watch it. There are lots of crazy folks out there. I met many of them while we were going through the K-1 process ourselves. They really shouldn't have to make things up. As far as this episode goes, however, I do think Jenny was blindsighted. Unless her whole "move" to India was fabricated and her stuff is really just back in her daughter's garage, I don't think she'd have packed up and moved had she known he was already married. For one thing, she'd have known that she couldn't stay longer than 3 months. The rest of these people though? I'm just getting frustrated with production shenanigans. I need to believe that these scenes are real so that I can make fun of these idiots...

Go to the "Before the 90 Days" main page. It's about 6 items down, more or less.

According to several sources, Roucelle IS a friend of Tom's, but they never dated and were only out once-for lunch. He called her and asked her to meet him there for filming. She thought she was just going to be in the background, but when everyone arrived they told her that she was meant to pretend to be an ex. A few weeks ago, this news was all over the internet and Roucelle was on Instagram, replying to people's comments about Tom. She was meant to be on a podcast this week to talk about it, but at the last minute she backed out and removed all her comments and stuff. She could be lying, but this sounds completely probable to me. I've seen their shenanigans before. They gave David Poor's kids a little "script" to follow and asked them to play up the idea of not liking Annie. One of the kids refused to be filmed because of it. In real life, his family loves Annie. I've seen this firsthand.

Also, didn't he say that the flight was 32 hours long, implying that there were several changes? It certainly wasn't a direct flight. If you go back and watch the scene of him "booking" the flight, he closes the page soon after clicking on the flight. It doesn't actually show him finishing the reservation. Yes, I actually went back and played it in slowmo. I clearly need a life. I have dirt on Roucelle and the club visit. Head over to "spoilers" and I'll spill.

Pretty soon we'll all be getting ads for CheapOAir.

That IS 2 different phones, right?

I bet Jenny's long visit was the catalyst for Some Meat's parents to push an arranged marriage. They probably thought they'd better get him hitched pronto once she left. If it is an arranged marrige, as I suspect, to someone he didn't know then I am sympathetic. It's easy enough, as an outsider, for me to say he shouldn't have married her. That isn't my culture, though, so I can't really put myself in his shoes. If he felt like he didn't really have a choice then that sucks. What he DID have a choice in was lying to Jenny. That is all on him. Maybe in his fantasy world he honestly thought he could have both (literally making her the side piece/sidekick that she felt she was). The reality, though, was that her visa did have an expiration date, bills had to be paid in both places, and his family was going to stay on top of him while he was away. This may be a TV show, but he is still living his real life. It doesn't work this way, dude. You can't live a secret double life when the secret one is being televised, dumbass.

They could've refused to film with Jenny and Some Meat. I'm real life friends with 2 couples who have appeared on the show. (Both the OG 90DF). When the cameras are not rolling, crew and cast hang out socially. Family members on both sides are met. They become FB friends and discuss non-show related stuff both during filming and off season. Cast has been invited to hang out at production members' houses without the cameras rolling. The line between professional and cast member becomes blurry. In an actual documentary, a piece in which the filmographers are meant to be inactive observationists, there's a certain amount of ethics involved. But this is not an educational series. If they knew and didn't tell her then it's not because they didn't want to get involved-it's because they knew they had a humdinger of a plot twist to surprise us with and this probably made them salivate.

I'm having trouble understanding Aladin's long game. Assuming it's a green card, but there are moments where it actually looks like a legit relationship on his end. Their whole storyline is screwing with me because it LOOKS like it should be a regular American woman/Middle Eastern man (a la the others in the franchise) and yet...it could be real. I need a drink. It appears to me that Liam is just showing off for the camera. I can buy that he's sick of his mom's drama, I would be as well, but some of his actions and reactions just seem overly exaggerated. I'm sure the emotions behind them are real enough, though.

So I can buy that Jenny didn't know, but what about production? If they were also privy to his "secret" then this is low even for reality TV. My daughter: Well, I know this would never happen to me because I don't trust people on the internet to start with and I'd rather spend the rest of my life with a dog than with a man.

I actually think this is one of the worst things about this series. The Americans (some,not all) who are average looking and in some cases questionable employment and housing (Larry's RV) going into poorer, developing countries and picking out hot partners (some extremely younger than them) and then expecting for that partner and their family to be eternally grateful for "rescuing" the person. I don't even feel that way when I'm selecting a dog at the shelter; they really shouldn't feel that way when choosing a partner.

I mean, I grew up dirt poor but I still had standards...I still had plenty of good qualities to offer a man (or a woman) and as bad off as we were I was still raised to hold my head high and not to feel like I was "less" than anyone else. When my daughter and son choose life partners, I will consider it a blessing if the person is kind, treats my child well, and loves them. Akyini's family just seems sketchy all the way around. They're treating him oddly, but not telling him why. He looks bemused by the whole thing.

Comments from my 8yo daughter during viewing: Darcey: OMG, Mommy, why does that lady not have a waist?! And why are her boobs bigger than my head? Did she buy some toddlers from the Dark Web and just shove them up there for the evening? (She watches a lot of You Tube and thinks the "Dark Web" is a box store where one can just pick up stuff, like Target.) Tim: Well,he seems like a nice enough guy but did something weird happen to his head when he was being born? Ben: He should just get the heck out of there and go to a motel. Don't even get his luggage, just buy it all new when he gets back home. If he does't leave then someone might sell HIM to the Dark Web. Avery: Why is she wearing a Halloween costume in summer? **upon explaining the scarf to her** Avery: She changed religions and met someone and decided to marry him in only six months? That's not even long enough for the goat's poop in our compost pile to break down. Caesar: I guess supper tonight will be those candy panties since he doesn't have money to buy anything else. Rebecca: Do you go through all the stuff in my room like that Mommy's doing for her kid? Angela: Why's that old lady yelling and cussing at that nice cab driver that's taking her to the boat? In essence, just as confused as the rest of us and we actually know what's going on...

I'm with Rebecca on the bathing situation. I've spent a fair amount of time in the middle east and northern Africa. While I've certainly seen my fair share of cubicle bathrooms (not to mention public toilets that literally consist of a hole in the ground that one squats over), there has always been at least SOME space set aside for bathing. I guess that tiny spot behind the toilet could have a nozzle attached to the wall (or they use a bucket like she hypothesized) but there were items hanging there and, yeah, it DOES seem like water would run out the door. On the other hand, at least we understand why Zied's hair has enough oil to stock BP.