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I for one think this is the perfect show for washing dishes with my back to the tv. Its noise.

Actually, those were her parishioners (church members) some of whom were family.

My favorite parts: 1) The discussion about whether Brittani was smart enough to record the women intentionally, and if she was, is she smart enough to plan to do something with the recordings 2) Heather deciding to make the most of this shitshow by CSI-ing the hell out of Meredith's room all the while barely able to keep a straight face 3) Mary's attempts to both stay out of the argument, while pointing out the complete insanity that is Brittani's stories.

The real issue is that after 10 years, the guys (who have always been the core of the SC grouping) have really aged out of the Bravo demographic. Over the holidays I watched episode 1 which was driven by Whitney, Thomas and JR (JP??JT?? damn, the dude that cheated on his wife while she was caring for their kids) while Shep and Craig were the "young" guys who were really the contemporaries of the 20-somethings Cameron, mohawk chick and Kathryn. It was crazy, because Dani was in the first episode billed as "Shep's ex" and was positioned as the more stable, slightly older and more serious option for Thomas rather than "Intern Barbie" Kathryn. It was quickly clear that no one wanted to watch a group of 40-year-olds chase 20-year-olds and that, coupled with Thomas' and the other dude's implosions took them off the cast. Fast forward 10 years and we're back to 40-year-old Shep chasing a 20-year-old beauty queen. They need to skew younger which is why they are bringing on all the influencer/model/SH crossover types, trying to find a mix that works. The problem is they have strayed so far away from the original premise (see how the oldest families of SC live and play) that now it's just manufactured drama, arguments and fights about who is jealous of who.

But they did have her...didn't Raquel say that her mom moved just before the pandemic? Her kids are tweens/teens. They definitely would have known her.

What do you mean? Wendy is still teaching, just not at Johns Hopkins. She is putting at least 3 of those 4 degrees to work.

Yes, it's essentially a salt cured fish. You have to soak it overnight and change the water several times to rinse the salt out before preparing it.

Ubah is Somali and lived in Somalia, Ethiopia and Kenya before moving to Canada as a teenager. In all of those countries, women wrapping/covering their heads is a cultural convention that has nothing to do with religion. Somehow in the US, head coverings have become synonymous with religious expression, but there it is just how women dress. I'm not at all surprised that she does it, especially because with her wearing wigs and extensions for work, she probably keeps her natural hair in some low-maintenance protective style.

I also wonder how much Bravo's tacit approval of folks over-indulging at work functions plays into this. I'm fascinated by the storyline currently playing out on Southern Charm where two cast members (including the dude who was filming while an Adderall addict) have distanced themselves from a fellow cast member who showed up at Bravocon and was "blackout drunk" for the entire weekend. Folks change behaviors when there are consequences, and when the network continues to allow folks to film, participate, and get paid while being under the influence what do they have to worry about? All of these people need this paycheck more than they need anything else, and if a DUI jeopardized that, folks like Karen would not drink and drive. But she and the other Bravolebrities know that the network eats this stuff (including the pearl clutching of folks like Ashley and Gizelle) up.

Wendy is teaching again as a guest lecturer at Wesleyan University. Details are in her thread. I wouldn't be surprised if it was her actual spot. Stacey didn't strike me as being the biggest domestic goddess when they showed her at home with Arabella.

Okay, so I'm just going to say that I think this is incredibly mean-spirited and tone deaf. Candiace has been a mom all of 15 seconds, and you are ascribing really horrible thoughts to her based on nothing. It's fine to dislike Candiace, and to say that she showed a less than inviting or nice personality on the show. It's even okay to make assumptions about Candiace's and Chris' relationship based on what was seen on TV. But it's not cool to talk about her behavior/attitudes/aptitude as a mom with absolutely zero evidence.

@bravofan27, just curious which of the ladies do you think is smart/shrewd? I mean out of this bunch Garcelle seems to be one of the better educated ladies. I certainly wouldn't call her dumb in comparison to the rest of the group.

I beg to differ. Robert Jr. is an adult. He chose to be on camera, and how he looks and what information is shared is completely within his control. Having watched several years' worth of "Intervention" I'm always surprised at how open some addicts are about their issues. Let's recall that RJ is an allegedly "married" man who was comfortable having his mother walk into his bedroom while he was in bed with his wife to ask if he had cleaned his room. Both he and his wife (girlfriend??) had to sign waivers to have their faces shown. He's not a child any more than Brooks Marks is, and like Brooks, he should be treated and held to account as an adult.

I assumed she was having a flash and her head was sweating 😁

I don't think he is. TJ strikes me as being very much like a number of guys that I know - raised in the church so contemplating anything other than a hetero relationship is off limits, good-looking enough that both men and women make their interest in them clearly known, and is smart, accomplished, personable, etc. He's just the 2020's version of Al Reynolds. He may come out, or he may end up married and always be presenting this face publicly that's respectable. It really depends on much he grows. Either way, he'll continue to get acting roles and will play characters that are in keeping with his moral values. And if he's comfortable with it, then more power to him.