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I wonder if Whitney was scouting on Raya for this storyline. It's a little strange that he would reach out to this girl, then just randomly Shep would contact the same girl, especially when neither of them has ever shown that Sienna is their "type".

In his defense, this was 2024 when everybody had eggs 😝😒😪

I thought he met her on Raya.

My dad would have said she was "striking" - there is something that draws your eyes to her and keeps your attention, but it isn't that she's universally "pretty" (whatever that means).

I don't know if it can ever go back. The first few seasons were all about the "old families" of Charleston. Craig was positioned as the college transplant who never moved back, and Cameron and the mohawk girl were there to provide the "new Charleston vs. old Charleston" tensions. None of those things exist anymore. They don't want to touch the old families with a ten-foot pole, not since Thomas' dad came on and said he won't carry a $5 bill in his wallet since it has a picture of Abraham Lincoln on it. And most of the cast are now like Craig, decidedly middle-class folks who want to be famous and are trying to figure out how to monetize this platform. Hell, Bravo has actually edited some of the earlier seasons to cut out some pretty tone-deaf comments on how all those "old families" came to be and what exactly they got their wealth from.

And this is why I'm calling bullshit on their "breakup" - the restaurant openings were occurring in the midst of this show drama. My guess is it was a way to walk away from the podcast while still pursuing these other projects. It sounds more to me like the actual issue is he wants to spend time only doing things he can monetize. If that includes the guys, great. But he doesn't want to spend any time with them where someone isn't paying him to do something.

Calvin is now played by a different actor, but it took 2-3 scenes before I figured that out!

Mary's church isn't the type to do a lot of work with organizations like AA. I grew up with friends who were in similar Pentecostal and COGIC churches, and if you had those types of problems you came to the church itself and spent time in prayer and fellowship. She doesn't have the "AA meets here every Thursday, Boy Scouts every Friday" type congregation. It's not surprising to me at all - plus Mary simply isn't very book smart or well-read. That comment was perfectly on brand for her.

It's a little fuzzy because it sounded in the earlier versions of the story like the father may never have gotten the chance to see Gwen. So, while his death may have been within a year or two of her birth it definitely wasn't portrayed as being years after she was born. I agree with your assessment. I also wonder about this being portrayed as Bronwyn bringing this out. Again, she showed Lisa a photo to prove that Gwen looked more like her dad than she did her mom. Lisa said that she knew the family. I'm going to have to go back and watch because I don't recall if Bronwyn told the story at that point, or if it came out after Lisa took it upon herself to reach out to the family and say that she had met Bronwyn. I do remember the meal with Lisa, John and Bronwyn where John talked about his adoption journey and the fact that Lisa basically bulldozed her way through his contact story. He was clear that if he had to do it over, he would not have reached out or allowed her to do the same. She just seems like she's overstepping in a big way considering Gwen has only and the grandparents didn't consent to any of this. Even if Bronwyn put it out there, Lisa was under no obligation to pick it up and run with it.

Bronwyn says she didn't keep the pregnancy secret, that Gwen's dad's family knew all about it, and that her father reached out to the grandfather after Gwen was born to try to broker a discussion and the family never responded. The key part of the story, which came out almost in passing, was that Gwen's dad was married at the time of his death. Since he died before Gwen was born, he was either married at the time or married soon after he and Bronwyn slept together. The miscarriage story appears to be an effort by the dad's family to do damage control as to why they didn't try to meet Gwen for the past 18 years.

I for one think this is the perfect show for washing dishes with my back to the tv. Its noise.

Actually, those were her parishioners (church members) some of whom were family.

My favorite parts: 1) The discussion about whether Brittani was smart enough to record the women intentionally, and if she was, is she smart enough to plan to do something with the recordings 2) Heather deciding to make the most of this shitshow by CSI-ing the hell out of Meredith's room all the while barely able to keep a straight face 3) Mary's attempts to both stay out of the argument, while pointing out the complete insanity that is Brittani's stories.

The real issue is that after 10 years, the guys (who have always been the core of the SC grouping) have really aged out of the Bravo demographic. Over the holidays I watched episode 1 which was driven by Whitney, Thomas and JR (JP??JT?? damn, the dude that cheated on his wife while she was caring for their kids) while Shep and Craig were the "young" guys who were really the contemporaries of the 20-somethings Cameron, mohawk chick and Kathryn. It was crazy, because Dani was in the first episode billed as "Shep's ex" and was positioned as the more stable, slightly older and more serious option for Thomas rather than "Intern Barbie" Kathryn. It was quickly clear that no one wanted to watch a group of 40-year-olds chase 20-year-olds and that, coupled with Thomas' and the other dude's implosions took them off the cast. Fast forward 10 years and we're back to 40-year-old Shep chasing a 20-year-old beauty queen. They need to skew younger which is why they are bringing on all the influencer/model/SH crossover types, trying to find a mix that works. The problem is they have strayed so far away from the original premise (see how the oldest families of SC live and play) that now it's just manufactured drama, arguments and fights about who is jealous of who.

But they did have her...didn't Raquel say that her mom moved just before the pandemic? Her kids are tweens/teens. They definitely would have known her.