whydoievencare

Is "Leaky Pigeon" even a real phrase? I've not heard it before. Going on record again that I can't stand Brynn and Erin.

Was that Katie's husband who Shannon went to and said that "she was done"? I thought he was being supportive when he replied to her that maybe it was time to walk away (and I think he was being kind) and then she's offended by that? WTF? And Shannon admonished Katie about it. She's nuts. I also wish Emily would just shut her gob sometimes - she seems to often make things worse.

He sure did!

Katie did do that but I thought Jo was too stupid to listen to her, just talked over Katie with her stupid schtick (kind of like Schwartz does) and seemed to miss entirely that Katie was being supportive. (I'm not a Jo fan, don't like her mannerisms and "always-on" persona.)

Sorry ZettaK, I think this would be how Sandoval would explain it and I don't agree. I do agree with this.

The promo for next week shows Sandoval turned towards Ariana with tears streaming down his face - sounds like he's apologizing. And Ariana is crying and says she just wants him gone. Sandoval could have talked with Ariana at any time to sincerely apologize and take responsibility for his heinous behaviour. During the whole time he was living with her he could have apologized, at any time prior to the reunion he could have apologized, but no, not him. He must do it ON CAMERA with an audience. (Lala must approve.) It brings to mind the saying: If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound? If an apology didn't happen in front of an audience, did it really happen? We've seen Sandoval not take any responsibility all season, he's shown no contrition, he's spoken about how well he's getting back into the group, he's played the victim. He's a shit human being and Ariana is well out of it. One of the many problems is that he's been the same shit person for all the seasons of Vanderpump Rules, just worse. Same with Schwartz. They are both vile people.

ZettaK - I liked all of your post! This part above - I think Kyle makes Amanda feel as if she's never doing enough - which has undermined her confidence. Apparently he really needs her, but it's just not in him to praise her. He seems to have given Karl a lot more grace. I'm not a Kyle fan (or a Lindsay fan, or a Karl fan, or a Danielle fan) and he seems to constantly make her feel as if she's less than. (ie. Drinking til the wee hours with strangers rather than be at home with her.) Especially when half of that couple is Kyle!

Jax lying again, attributing the rumour about Michelle to Kristin, when we saw that HE told her. And the pretend squeamishness when talking to Michelle. He's such a fucking creep.

In the scenes from the next reunion show, Ariana says about Lala, something like: "You just talk louder than everybody else so you're right." This is exactly the truth about Lala - she just yells over everyone else until they give up. And Lala feels she is right about everything and more wise than everyone. Like they all should just benefit from her experiences. No one can have a differing opinion without her getting loud and "street". She's such a poseur.

I agree. It's such an outmoded concept IMHO. Many people are happy to live together without a ring and a ceremony. I haven't actually heard anyone utter that saying in my hearing in over 50 years.

Yes. For years Tom Schwartz looked like the put upon partner of mean Katie. But over the years we've seen behind the curtain and how badly he could speak to her/treat her. I think the Toms are both vile and pretty much get away with all their shit. Both are performative. I can't stand either one.

You mean "why buy the cow when the milk is free"?

If the above info/birth date is correct, Luke is 29. Haven't they been saying he's 32?

Danielle, what is there to say about her? Something is definitely wrong with that girl. She was unhinged last season. No better this one. So two faced - in her morning conversation with Gabby, she says that the girls told her Gabby was crying - last night she couldn't care less, this morning she wants to hug Gabby.

Well, that's true. But I'm sure in his mind he has the most extra style of anyone.