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I have to say that Karishma's description of what happened and what actually happened were pretty different. She described it as if she were thisclose to getting the note and Jamal swooped in out of nowhere and grabbed it- but watching the footage they both went for it with all the zeal of a Sloth vs Turtle and sloth happened to win this time.

Producer: "Do you want us to intervene?" Kellee: "NO." Kellee took action. She just didn't take the action most of us wish she had, because she had other plans in mind.

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@SilverStormm do you think this game will start before Thanksgiving (next week)..? If not, @meet trouble should Smell Bad. How many times do you typically watch movies, @Aethera? Twice is 2x as much as most people watch a movie. I hope the goblins DO come and take them away!

Then, I'm of the belief that no one walking into TC with 2 idols should ever leave that TC with 2 idols. If you find HII #2, the universe is trying to tell you something.

Making a complaint, in the form of a police or incident report, most assuredly exists outside of television shows. I've seen many incidents dropped in my life without arrest (including physical assault) because no one would complete one, and that's across several states. My question is, was production's warning only about touching Kellee or was it about touching any of the women without their consent? I guess we don't know.

All of this, x 100. Thank you for saying what I've been trying to. Producers ignoring what Kellee said in her on-camera and off-camera interviews and deciding that "they know better" would've been sexist and infantilizing. If a bigger guy like Aaron came away from TC angry with a smaller guy like Dean and began following him around menacingly and hovering over him to intimidate him and make him uncomfortable but not technically breaking any rules... and a producer interrupted one of Dean's TH's to say "Do you want us to intervene?" and Dean said "No, I think it'll all play out" and then reinforced that in a later private meeting, would we be saying the producers should have eliminated Aaron anyway?

Two of whom were (known to the producers) exaggerating their own experience and knowingly using Kellee's experience to further their own games, one who explicitly told them not to intervene, and one who was only going by the other's word and didn't really agree that there was bad intent. Unfortunate, but true. You could go on forever, but neither physical assault nor car theft nor murder etc. are brushing a hair out of someone's face / putting an arm around someone. The point is, even with an actual crime committed, a complaint typically needs to be made for an arrest to happen. Police aren't trying to send a case in front of a judge with no cooperating complainant which will just waste time and money. There is no doubt something about ejection if you're harassing other contestants, but likely not enforced without corroborating footage (which they had here) and a formal complaint (which they didn't have here.)

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Kellee was clear to the producer that she felt everything would work itself out and she didn't want the show to intervene. She felt similarly the next day when they met with everyone again privately and off-camera. Why would any of us be fine with the show intervening after Kellee was clear that she didn't want them to? Kellee is allowed ownership over her own life and surroundings without a bunch of NBC guys stepping in to make decisions for her that she's already made. She didn't want Dan to go because she had bigger fish to fry, but it didn't work out because that fish (Missy) fried her first. Dan's a creeper and a half, but he hasn't done anything criminal here. If they eliminated him without a complaint lodged by another contestant, they'd set precedent to eliminate everyone who touches someone (in any way) after being asked not to. If someone punches Jim in the head and Jim doesn't file a police report or press charges, no one is getting arrested. My only issue with production is that following Dan's "official warning" to stop touching women, he grabbed Noura right in front of Probst at TC to make a bullshit example, and it was allowed. Don't give out warnings then whistle and walk the other direction as the problem child ignores them.

Pao and Russ have their own topic. Stay on topic here, and remember the golden rule: Be Civil.

I forgot -- you were Buffy's "Watcher" @Spaceman Spiff -- but you didn't know who Buffy was.. in fact.. YOU HAD NO POWERS AT ALL. With great no power comes great no responsibility. Come back, it'll be so much better.

I don't have the receipts but don't doubt I've killed (or contributed to killing) minimum one Hero in Every. Single. Game. Buffy's fine @Spaceman Spiff and whoever played her was probably a Villain in the prior/next game and did very bad things. None of us get salty.

I watched GotG2 after the game had already started so I didn't want to post this then, but I think this scene is one of my favorite few minutes of film, ever:

I wish @Spaceman Spiff would write a postgame review anytime he follows along. (And more than that I wish he'd play with us again.)

...I like to put em in a row on my command console.

Back to the topic, please.

In what universe?? Any man, any where, any time, who reaches out and brushes my hair out of my mouth while I'm talking to him is a creep. This is how assholes get away with it and become emboldened..I mean, what's the harm, right??? If you don't see it as the power play that it is, then you are part of the problem. I'm part of the problem then, because I've brushed a hair out of someone's mouth before. We don't live in a universe where no one wants to be touched ever. Human touch is healthy and skin hunger is real. I stand by my assertion that it wasn't the actual touches that were problematic- the problem was that the recipient specifically said to stop because they were uncomfortable, and the touching continued.

I fucking love that you were still thinking about this after you got killed. If you were a Terran child I would totally kidnap you (and not let my crew eat you.)

So you see, @JTMacc99... She doesn't leave me Easter eggs... she leaves me M18 Claymores.

You were right.

"I'll never let it go, Dan! But go ahead and keep grabbing Noura, because I'm clearly comfortable pretending that's not even happening."

I was less entertained, TBH. I had major trauma from that "Hold my hand, Peter" scene and I was very triggered thinking I'd killed poor River Lily. I'll send you both my therapist's invoice. I actually only checked the other superhero games (X-Men and Avengers) because I figured they'd be most reliable. (I have mentally blocked the Xena game because I was modkilled - oooops!)