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Never underestimate Joe's belief that he is the funniest guy who ever walked the Earth. And there is enough self loathing in that marriage for 20 people. Joe was never taken seriously til he hooked up with Mika, and she introduced him to the DC cocktail/Ben & Sally Bradlee party circuit. Even three years in Congress didn't help. Mika couldn't get a job as anything but a 3 am news break reader til... well we all know the rest of that story. She always blames sexism or whatever, but I seem to recall Andrea Mitchell holding down a job for 40 plus years, as well as Judy Woodruff, Barbara Walters, etc.

Or "good ol' days of segregation".

The only way to get them to get their act together is hold their feet to the fire. The press in theory is good, it's people who would rather write an easy story, let the subject write it for them, because chasing down the truth, handling sources, etc. is hard work. If it bleeds it leads. Click bait is king.

I think in many ways in the same way I had this "time filter" on about the show in general, I had a similar filter re: Amy. I sorta felt they had this interesting character and they had to make her unsympathetic because of the Josh/Donna angle (I think?), and also this outdated 90s/00s perspective of Cautious Feminism. So I sort of interpreted her actions in light of that, and it sorta felt like Sorkin was saying warning! if you're a lil too transgressive you're gonna get fired! You can be stubborn but only if men find it cute! And in a weird way it made me like Amy even more, heh. Go figure. Parker actually approached the show about being a love interest for Josh. I think they decided to make her the anti-Donna. Remember there's an episode where she & Josh get into it, and Amy approached Donna about how to smooth things over, Donna was not having it. Of course Donna was in love with Josh (Janelle said that from the outset, she approached Donna as being in love with him but having to hide it. ) Brad said it took Josh a long time to realize he was in love with her, because he was a fucking idiot. His words. I must concur. He only realized it when he almost lost her. Some of my comments about the silly way the women were written don't take into account that Sorkin always viewed the show as a type of light comedy. As the seasons progressed the female buffoonery was toned down quite a bit. Mrs Landingham and Nancy McNally were probably the most well written female characters from the outset. Neither took shit from anybody. Esp Bartlett.

Yeah this pissed me off. Joe & his little pet Kasie are setting the table for "I told you so, I said this all along" bullshit. I'm not saying the polls couldn't be a little tighter than we think, but does it occur to either of these two that Republicans registering to vote are voting for Biden? He's starting to get scared that if Biden wins, his ratings will tank. Katy Tur did the same thing in 2016. "I told you Trump could win". Trump won by 80,000 votes. And we still don't know how those votes happened, seeing as how we started getting reports that vote tallies could have been tampered with by hackers. In 2017. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55603/russia-hack-voting-totals/

Yes that's one of the episodes that makes me cry. Even when they bring in William Fichtner as the conservative judge, and he tells Charlie how to argue affirmative action. When Bartlett announces her appointment as Chief Justice.. omg

You don't actually think Joe cares about current events do you? This show is a platform for Joe to show off. Think about it. He has a 15 minute tirade every morning, about God knows what, then he starts talking to panelists, but the convo is basically, here's what I think, dare to disagree with me, I'll let you get 10 words out then I'll interrupt. I noticed yesterday when Michael Ian Black was on talking about his book, Joe disappeared. Because it was about teaching boys to address their feelings, and getting rid of toxic masculinity in our young men. Of course Joe wouldn't want anyone to point out what a egotistical bully he is.

Today was so much better without Joe. I didn't watch much as I overslept but my GOD Willie, winner of an Edward R Murrow award, should host this show. If they need a spicy co host, bring on Hallie Jackson. She interviewed the Deputy Press Secretary last week, it got VERY heated, but instead of cry shrieking like Mika, she just held his feet to the fire.

Joe and Mika are consummate professionals who work tirelessly to elevate the political discourse of the country. Challenge accepted!

I don't judge you, I just didn't like Amy because she was so full of herself, and refused to understand how the political game had to be played in the WH, as far as their interactions with Congress. And this had nothing to do with the Josh/Donna dynamic. I think Lou (Janeane Garofola) was a better written character who wouldn't play the game. Amy expected everyone to just roll over and do what she wanted, and she (IMO) didn't present her case very well. It was just "here's a list of women, use one of them or feel my wrath". And she wondered why she kept getting fired. Remember what Matt Santos said to Amy: "fix the house from the inside instead of tearing it down, that's what the grown ups do".

As long as the hearings go on. Can you watch Peacock on the lap top?

Amen!!! And blech.

Get a free Peacock tv account and watch Joshua Johnson host the hearings. He has Pete Williams on now. It's so much better than Chuck "make my skin crawl" Todd.

That's the nicest thing anyone can say about him. I would rather BriWi & Nicole be hosting these. Joshua Johnson is hosting the hearings on Peacock. I may start watching from that platform online at work.

It's just a joke. Take most of the stuff we say here with a grain of salt, it's snark and jokes. Yes some of it is definite opinions/comments on their terrible behavior but a lot of times we're just blowing off steam.

Mika retweeted Barnicle's congrats. Nothing from her personally. Nothing from Joe. Maybe she'll bake him a cake.

Yeah Newsroom was terrible with women, too. It's okay to not understand every aspect of macro economics, but to just be that blatantly dumb about it. She's an EP on a national news show. And the Olivia Munn character was smart re economics but acted like an idiot in other aspects. On West Wing the women were smart, they were just not treated with respect, by Sorkin or the male characters. That's why I like the post Sorkin years better in that the women were allowed to grow. Some have a problem with CJ being made CoS, but Leo was the one who gave Bartlett the idea. The saving grace with Sorkin shows is that they are uplifting and inspiring.

As opposed to Joe's Appalachian Trail pal Mark Sanford? Was this mentioned? I imagine Joe isn't too happy about Willie getting an Edward R Murrow award. They don't give awards for screeching and interrupting people, Joe.

A couple of the mods from back then were on the podcast. It was really fun to hear them talk about it. And then Sorkin writes a story line where Josh does the same thing, goes on some political website and gets into it with the members, but Donna and he trash all the people on the forum like we're/they're a bunch of basement dwelling trolls.

I watched this. I almost wish they would have done "College Kids", it was about GOTV and making college affordable. Much more relevant than a small town in NH that votes at midnight. It was a cute story 20 years ago. I read a thread on Twitter last night, the person commenting was hate watching first season. She didn't like the misogyny, which ran rampant during the Sorkin years. Sorkin has never been great at writing for women, they are capable in one respect, but they are always there to service the male characters, and to be admired for their looks, not their resumes. They seem almost buffoonish at times. CJ falling off the treadmill or on the stairs boarding AF1, Ainsley Hayes dancing around in her office in a bathrobe (were they kidding with that?) running out of the Oval because she was scared to meet Bartlett. And Donna? Don't get me started. Or CJ flirting/almost hooking up with Danny. Former Press Secretaries have commented on the podcast that IRL she would have been fired for her behavior with Danny. As soon as Sorkin left the women all seemed to become actual people and not cartoon characters. CJ became CoS, Donna quit and went to work for Russell, basically telling Josh to F off in so many words, after hooking up with Hotty McHotStuff Irish photojournalist Colin Ayres. Sorkin also screwed up with "Dead Irish Writers". He had Donna not being a citizen because the border of MN and Canada had been redrawn and she was born in Canada, technically. Except her parents were US citizens, so the whole thing was absurd. He also wrote story lines which were almost blatantly homophobic. He had a character call Charlie a fairy, Charlie wonder if Josh was going to take Zoey to gay bar, etc. JFC. And you have to love Sorkin getting dragged on TWOP forum and creating a fake username to push back on the criticism. rant over. I still love the show. I can just look back on it and realize how much society has changed re it's treatment of women, and minorities which reflects in the arts.

Can Mika speak without sounding like someone has a gun to Meatball's head? Take it down a notch. At 8:59 am it sounded like she said some of Barrett's kids tested positive. My sister texted me about it, I told her God knows what she was talking about, she can't get one sentence out with tripping all over herself. I'm sure if Barrett's kids were positive, we would never know about it.

I can't believe Kasie tried to push Schumer on the Biden packing the court bs. First rule of Fight Club (politics) "don't answer conditional questions".

You're very welcome ! I saw it in the theater when it came out and it was a huge hit. Whether it holds up, I can't say. My tastes now run more to What We Do In The Shadows (movie & tv) Arrested Development, The Office, Veep. I can't think of a really funny movie I've seen, the last one that I was crying from laughing so hard was Spy with Melissa McCarthy. It's Murray's snark, and Akroyd and Ramis' sincerity. Annie Potts plays their receptionist, and Sigourney Weaver is a concert cellist whose apartment is haunted. Here's the scene Donnie was talking about. They're talking about NYC having all these ghosts, demons etc suddenly, and it could be end times. .

Mika's "jokes" are constantly having to be explained, ex: her Where's the River? In the Van down by the River? "joke". The last person I would say has a good sense of humor is Mika Brzezinski. And Joe just makes snide comments, or pretends to be self effacing in an effort to remind us he went to law school/was a Congressman, etc. It's not joking, it's humble bragging. That's comparing apples & oranges. It's a Bill Murray/Dan Akroyd/Harold Ramis movie directed by Ivan Reitman about four guys who get rid of ghosts in NYC. It's on the top of several lists of best comedies. Since I don't know your taste in comedy, you'll have to decide for yourself. If you like Bill Murray's sense of humor, you'll probably like it.

I'm pitching a show to AMC based on Mika's life & the zombies "The Walking Sad".