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I never wanted to see Hope go there, but she did, and all I can say is thank God something actually happened. Now, the endless conversations about Thomas being obsessed, or being a changed man, will change to "how could Hope betray Liam?" Hope looked happier than I have seen her in forever, demonstrating not one ounce of remorse, positively glowing in her betrayal. I wanted to feel bad for Liam, and I did just a smidge, but he doesn't have a lot of wiggle room here. I don't believe in two wrongs making a right, and revenge or payback can be empty, but Hope has always forgiven, so now the ball is in Liam's court to stand up to something horrible and be willing to look the other way. Oh, but wait, he already did that! He looked right at Steffy and planted a kiss on her. I am with my fellow posters, and would like to see Steffy push back, and tell Liam that she is happy with Finn. Then, have Finn find out about it somehow and go to Taylor to be consoled, and have them discover each other. Or, if they must resurrect the triangle, have Finn turn to a depressed Taylor for comfort, and let the chips fall. And I am going to lay down my bets way ahead of the game. Once the news gets out about Hope and Thomas, I say we will see Bridge starting to implode in a matter of weeks. Brooke is gonna be horrified and will not be able to hold back on how she feels about Hope being with Thomas, and that will fire Ridge up, and he will start defending his son. And you all know the rest; we have seen it time and again.

I also saw several hilarious scenarios playing out with the keyhole, but alas, it looks like it will be another round of Bridge. Maybe we should start the betting now on what will drive Ridge into the arms of another woman and how long it will take. Well, Hope my girl, I have to say you didn't mince any words about that. You grabbed Thomas's face like you were starving and were gobbling him up with some serious pent up passion. Now, kissing Thomas isn't right on any level, but kissing is not fucking. What Liam needs to do is march is ass up there and confront them. He knows what he saw, and there is no way he can lay this on Thomas, no matter if Thomas wanted it and was all in, Hope was clearly the instigator. So, as a hurt and jealous husband, Liam needs to ask his wife what her intentions are, and what her feelings about him are, and what her feelings about Thomas are, and what her feelings are about their marriage. But he won't do that of course. He will run back in search of Steffy, and that big ugly straw bag will be disappearing. And maybe twice will be too much for Finn, which will lay the groundwork for Hope to become the scarlet woman, the new SFTV. I can see Taylor and Steffy piling on in righteous indignation, telling all that will listen how Hope ruined Thomas and Steffy's lives. Of course the fact that Steffy had a choice will be overlooked. Just like her mother had an excuse to betray Ridge with James, Steffy will have an excuse to betray Finn with Liam, and it will all be Hope's fault for upsetting Liam. I hope I am wrong about all of that, but it would fit right in with the history of Show, and how they never hold Taylor and Steffy accountable for their actions.

Yes, why was Liam calling commercial airlines when his father has a private jet? And after discovering there were no flights available would he not ask Bill about using said jet? Hope is not going to be happy until she scratches that itch. She has got the scent of "bad boy" blood now and won't be happy until she gets the full monty. Of course Liam will arrive at just the right moment, and will walk in on a HopeQuinn repeat, except this time it will be the real deal. I wonder who he will scuttle off to this time? Will he barge into Steffy's love life again? Will he go in search of some random Parisian woman? Cause we all know he won't do the right thing and confront Hope. A sign Brooke? The sign is he doesn't call you Logan anymore. The sign is he isn't jumping at the bait. Honestly, don't you realize you have to pay for disrespecting Ridge's right to fuck with you and your emotions? Stupid woman, you know Ridge had every right to run to Aspen without a word of explanation. Just has he had every right to hop on Taylor's bones while still married to you. After all, didn't you learn you lesson with Shauna? Or Quinn? I am wondering, never a good thing really, but I am wondering if this is why Katie didn't come to the most romantic city in the world, and now Bill is on his way. Could he be coming to once again pick up the pieces of Brooke's broken heart? I might be on board for that. I would rather her stay single actually, and in all honesty don't want to see her and Deacon because I think they are so much better as friends and co-parents. But if it meant the end of Bridge I would accept it all the same. A girl could certainly do worse. Ah hell no! Brooke owned that enterprise completely, only acknowledging Ridge's contribution to piss Taylor off.

This Show.... I have not been watching with any regularity, but honestly has anything happened in the last two weeks? I mean, outside of the fact that Thomas is a changed man, and that Rome is a beautiful and romantic city, and that Liam doesn't want Hope around Thomas? Dull, dull and duller I say. Of course, we had Taylor changing the earth's axis with her astonishingly hypocritical statement about Ridge allowing Brooke to "continue her smear campaign." Somehow managing to forget her and her Tot's year long effort to break up Brooke's marriage by doing just that, but of course WRP are allowed to be hypocrites because they are smarter than the average bear. I can also do without a whole new round of Brooke begging that smarmy loser to come back to her. It makes me doubly mad because right now I am nearing the end of season 7, and Ridge is once again manipulating Brooke, pretending to want to be her friend again, volunteering to design her new men's line, hanging out with her and the kids, all in an effort to get Forrester back for Eric. And now, as she stands there pleading her case, declaring her undying love, he looks lost and tilts his head. UGH! I see the rooftop gym is back in rotation, but with all these buff dudes on canvas I guess I can understand why. And what was the purpose of the bikini shoot? So much randomness. Why isn't the publicity person on this trip instead of the COO? Where is Bill? Where is Sheila? Hope has been looking especially lovely lately, while Steffy always looks like she is trying too hard, and Taylor, well..........

The winner will be the one who walks away Ridgeless. I have been taking a time out. My dumbed down senses just couldn't take it anymore. But after reading the comments hear I watched yesterday's episode. This is the way Brooke has always been treated. Stephanie faked friended her all the time in the early years, and always to support her own agenda. Keeping Caroline away from Ridge, asking Brooke to move in with her while Brooke was engaged to Eric, demanding that Brooke become her friend in order to secure Stephanie's divorce from Eric, befriending her when Brooke and Eric were near the end of their marriage, going off to find Brooke after she married Nick and Ridge had his heart attack; the list just goes on and on. Constantly playing on Brooke's emotions, her goodness, and her generosity, and oftentimes downright gaslighting her. And this is the person that Taylor learned her tricks from, well, at least most of them. From the beginning Taylor was a manipulator and an opportunist, dancing all over Caroline's grave before the dirt was even over it. Then, after worming her way into Ridge's bed and his life, screwing over Storm and Blake simultaneously, she makes a career out of flapping her lips about how horrible Brooke is, and how she "wants my husband" and will do anything to get him. PFFT! Please, Brooke stayed away from Ridge after he chose Caroline, she was happily involved with Eric. And really, Taylor is the fool who married a man she knew had been heavily involved with someone else, someone he was planning on marrying. She knew Ridge's St. Thomas proposal was more about Eric's happiness than her, but she accepted anyway. Outside of that, she is the one who betrayed Ridge and let him down by having sex with James Warwick and keeping that secret for decades. Brooke has never stepped out on Ridge, she has always been loyal to him, and has tried to do the right thing and have other relationships. So, what, Taylor thinks Brooke should have just been alone her whole adult life? That she should not have moved on from Ridge? The fact that Ridge would never allow it not withstanding, Taylor's arguments are hollow and groundless. It is not a question of who is the bigger whore, it is a question of who is the bigger hypocrite. I also feel that a lot of Taylor's animosity has to do with Stephanie choosing to die in Brooke's arms and not hers. Taylor has always been a horrible, self absorbed character.

OHHHHHHHHH.......the absolute stupidity of it all. I just cannot watch.

Yeah, Imma bout done with all this Brooke' history crap. Not only because most, if not all of it, is absolute nonsense, but because none of these people have a moral leg to stand on; well, except Hope. And just look at her piling on the Brooke hate train. Regardless of what anyone believes about Brooke and her past, she has been nothing but a loving and supportive mother to Hope. Actually, I would say Brooke has gone overboard with her mothering of Hope, largely to compensate her for her conception and her parentage, and she absolutely does not deserve this from Hope. And of all people Hope chooses Thomas to listen to her drag her mother. I need her to explain her statement about "I grew up watching my mom doing...." Doing what? After the Deacon affair Brooke was involved with Nick who was a single, available man, and should have been her forever romance. Ridge's jealousy and his constant sniffing around Brooke was entirely on him, so I don't get Hope's statement. Bridget and Rick are the ones who grew up with Brooke's scandalous past, who watched her being a normal human being that, egad!, had relationships. But there are only certain people who are allowed to do that, and Brooke isn't one of them. Finn, Finn, Finn. You can STFU about shit you know nothing about. Your perfect little wifey has a very one sided opinion about Brooke. If you had any sense in that empty head of yours you would realize that, but your Steffy worship blinds you to the truth. Here's what I need you to do, go take a nice long swim in a swamp full of alligators. Steffy just couldn't help herself. She had to tell how Hope betrayed Liam by holding hands with Thomas. My God, but the horror of it. I find myself clutching my pearls and very near to having the vapors. And poor Steffy had to witness this horrible betrayal! She, the daughter of the family saint, the wife who has never screwed her father-in-law, or her married ex-husband. The woman who will not have to explain to two children why she needed paternity tests to determine who their fathers were. Yeah, hypocrites need to shut their friggin pie holes.

The show is over, their ready to go But are now stuck in San Francisco The Forrester jet is sick and cannot fly No commercial flights to be had And hope is stressin’ about being bad Wanting Thomas so bad she’s about to cry So trust me and pray for me Tell me Liam, you’ll still love me And please don’t tell me I told you so Cause Hope and Thomas have left on a jet plane Don’t know when they will be back again HFTF made them go Hope’s grousing about the times Liam has played around Talking about the times he’s let her down Trying to make what’s about to happen not mean a thing Every place I go, I think of Thomas Every sketch I see, brings new promise But when I come home, I’ll still be wearing your wedding ring So trust me and pray for me Tell me Liam, you’ll still love me And please don’t tell me I told you so Cause Hope and Thomas have left on a jet plane Don’t know when they will be back again HFTF made them go Hope is desperate and is dragging her mom too Saying hurtful things, and painting pictures that just aren’t true Hope will look back and regret those words one day So trust me and pray for me Tell me Liam, you’ll still love me And please don’t tell me I told you so Cause Hope and Thomas have left on a jet plane Don’t know when they will be back again HFTF made them go

Two words that start with F; flirting and fucking. Hope knows a little about one and Steffy is an open encyclopedia on the other. Flirting is often quite harmless, can be cute, and generally doesn't lead to children of unknown parentage. Fucking, OTOH, can be very harmful, is not always cute, and can leave you in heaps of pregnancy trouble. Particularly if you are married and you weren't fucking your husband; here's looking at you Steffy. So, yeah, Steffy can step the hell off with all her judgement. I don't want to see Hope become one of the girls; to date she is the only "wife" who hasn't stepped out. It is her only calling card to moral supremacy, if she is going to screw that up, let it be with someone worthy. I understand where Taylor is coming from; as a mother she is desperate to believe her son is all better. As a psychiatrist, she should know Thomas wasn't in therapy long enough to overcome his demons. Taylor's long history of biased doctoring tells me her visit with Liam was just a mother's plea to give her baby a chance. If I had to choose someone on this show to pattern myself after it would most definitely be Brooke. The character was labeled a manipulator, and a horrible person for taking Ridge's love letter to Caroline and it set the course of how Brooke would be seen by others. A crime so offensive and horrifying that it changed the axis of the show. No matter Brooke's conscious wouldn't allow her to go through with it and she gave the silly thing to Caroline, who chose to do knowing with it or about it. But ole Caroline never missed a chance to throw it in Brooke's face, and when she told Ridge about it, she conveniently left Thorn's participation out of the equation. From that point on Brooke could not win with the mean girls; Stephanie, Caroline and Taylor. Give me Brooke any day of the week. There was no doubt of Rick's paternity, Bridget's was the one in question, and of course Sheila and Mike screwed with the original paternity test. We got to witness Thomas being "healed" by that one session he had with his therapist in Eric's office. His mommy was along for the ride and was coaching his doctor. Thomas said all the right things, so of course he is all better now.

Are all these random cameos supposed to be distracting Deacon? Keeping his mind off his lost love Sheila? I have no idea who most of these people are, but I know who Jimmie Walker is, and I have never been a fan. And a friggin wine expert? Whatever. The little kid though, is awesome. I too am growing tired of this daydreaming Hope. For God's sake just go on and fuck the guy! And stop hearing your mother's voice in your head, cause she didn't go after bad boys. UGH! It is all so tiresome and repetitive. That dress channeled Pocahontas, Aphrodite, and Dottie West all at the same time. Are they telling us that is the fashion that is empowering and inspiring young women? Ridge just kept badgering the boy until he was in tears. Get a clue my man, RJ does not want to follow in your footsteps. He does not want to be the prodigal son. Run RJ, run straight to Liam and start talking about being whatever it is you are so he can hire you to work at SP.

I agree with @Cool Breeze on who that shadowy figure was, but my question is why? That would mean Sheila is going to be staying around, and what is the point? This character ran out of gas years ago and keeping her around to piss and moan about her son, and how she got stung by Bill is not what I consider entertaining. I am also fearful she will beeline straight to Deacon. There are so many things they could do with Deacon, and to bring Show's level up. Now that we have RJ back, how about we reintroduce Little D? This could add a whole new layer for Deacon and Hope. I think bringing in Jack could really up the ante too, and maybe it is time we see a new Will. I wouldn't want to see them return as parent trappers, but as young adults who have conflicting emotions over their conceptions, their parentage, their histories, and their complex relations with the different families. Bring Rick back as well; he is always good for stirring the pot, and he has a deep history with Little D and Deacon, and Jack is his half-brother. Another thing they could do is refocus on fashion. It seems the only thing FC's produces now is HFTF. Watching the old episodes on YouTube has reminded me how much I loved those big fashion shows, the lavish productions, sharing the runway with Spectra. And there were so many designers who all had their own agendas; Eric, Ridge, Kristen, Clark, Margo and Felcia. What I don't want to see is Bill begging Katie. Please, for heaven's sake, let Bill move on. Taylor and Li are both available, do something new and original.

Well, I guess we know where RJ is going to land. They could not have been more obvious with Liam and Wyatt's new acquisition and all their talk about refreshing it, and a startup operation with "influencers." But I am down for it; let one Forrester child not be a designer or work in the business, and RJ working for Spencer might ruffle a few feathers. Other than those Bill, Liam, Wyatt scenes Show was a positive snore. I am so over people going to the jail to tell Sheila off. I can't stand Sheila, but it all seems so.........er..........juvenile and counterproductive.

Writing??????? What writing?

So, I am expected to believe that Sheila has usurped Brooke's place in Deacon's heart? Ah, nah, nah, nah. No way in hell will I ever believe that. They just cannot let Deacon be on the straight and narrow and will always find a way to screw him up. Fuckers. And another round of Bill begging Katie. NO. NO. NO. I did kind of like this new RJ. Maybe because he is new, but the kid seems to have some chops. Outside of that, I thought Brooke looked lovely in her white and mint green.

I was wondering if we would ever see Sheila again. I couldn't imagine they were just going to let her sail off to prison without some type of closure. And now we have had that, so they can cart her off to spend the rest of her life "behind bars." I felt a little something, something between Bill and Taylor too. Which kind of upsets me because I am still holding out for a Bill/Li pairing. But I will take anything over another round of Batie. That leaves Ridge and Li single and available. But just no.

Well, I am just a tad bit pissed off, not to mention butt hurt and offended for John McCook and Katherine Kelly Lang. A 9000th episode celebration and not one single mention to the shows only surviving originals? How rude. So, ok, it is Steffy's birthday, but the whole episode Show? I just watched Sally Spectra lay Bill Spencer open for having one of his henchmen take pictures of her wedding to Clark, which exposed Macy as her daughter. Sally was threatening to expose his involvement in porno mags. And it was just absolutely fucking riveting. Get a clue Show. Get a clue.

I have one older sister who I have not spoken to in years. To be perfectly frank, our relationship is toxic, and I made the painful decision that I could no longer tolerate her entitled, selfish, and completely self-absorbed actions, and cut her out of my life. My mom is having a sad too, but she knows not to interfere, and will only go as far as saying she wishes we could get past it. I started watching when Show first aired, but due to today's repetitive writing and rewashing of scripts and SL's, I have been drawn back to its roots and have started from the beginning on YouTube. Even though I have seen it before, I still find myself a little amazed at how complex and deep the SL's were back then. At one point in season 2, we have Eric discovering he has an adult daughter who is disabled, while Thorne marries Ridge's first love Caroline after she has been raped. Thorne finds out Ridge had drunken sex with Caroline and shoots him in the head, and Stephanie takes the fall for it. Then there is Bill Spencer and Donna Logan, who is trying to expose his involvement in porno magazines. Ridge is romancing Brooke, as Stephanie shops for a gigolo to romance her oldest daughter Kristen because she is jealous of her relationship with Eric. This gigolo, a man named Clark, works for their competition Spectra, and ends up involved with Eric's assistant Margo, and they end up having a son. Yes, all going on simultaneously, and seamlessly weaved together in truly compelling and interesting storytelling. Don't even get me started on season 7, when we have the battle for BeLief and Brooke taking over Forrester.

Brooke always going after the "wrong man" or the "bad guy" is patently ridiculous. With few exceptions, the men in Brooke's life pursued her, and the only bad guy she was ever with was Deacon. This fallacy of Brooke's jaded past is all part and parcel of Stephanie's drum beating for 30 years about the "slut from the valley." I am now in the middle of season three on YouTube, and have been reminded just how horrible Stephanie was to Brooke. Over the years I had forgotten so many things, like how Stephanie continually played with Brooke's emotions and her mind; one day her friend and the next her enemy. Blaming Brooke for Eric loving Beth, and putting her in the middle of their romance by trying to force Brooke to break them up. Constantly blackmailing her with going to Ridge with Brooke's knowledge of their affair if she didn't intercede. Stephanie never forgave Brooke for not turning on her own mother, and never missed the opportunity to tell Brooke that she saw her as a traitor because of it. What a complete and total BITCH she was; Brooke's only loyalty was to her mother, not Stephanie. Then, trying to justify her actions regarding the Logan family, manipulating and interfering by finding and bringing Stephen home, by saying she was trying to save her marriage. What marriage? That relationship was staler than ten day old toast; there was no affection or closeness between Stehpanie and Eric, in fact, there was a palpable coldness between them. I mean, when a mother is that jealous of her own daughter's love and affection for her father, and shops for a gigolo to get involved with her? Additionally, she knew Eric was in love with Beth when they were in college, and after rediscovering her, he realized his feelings were the same. Stephanie was not able to accept that and labeled Beth an opportunist and a woman who had seduced her husband. Stehpanie was the worst, and for this viewer, one of her most heinous traits was coaxing her actions in pretty words and platitudes about family and integrity, something Stephanie simply did not possess. So, I am not happy with this current dialogue and Brooke running herself down over things that fucking witch said. Hope was completely out of line talking to her mother like that, a mother who has never been anything but loving and supportive. If Hope wants to swap spit with Thomas that is totally on her; if she needs to fantasize that her husband is a stalkering, gaslighting, manipulative psycho, well then that is what she needs to do, and has nothing to do with her mother. Having said that, I was hella uncomfortable with those Brooke/Ridge scenes. Those two have nothing going on, and it all felt really creepy to me. So Brooke flirted a little? That is Brooke. But nothing happened, not even a friggin kiss. Given most of the evening was spent discussing Ridge's deranged son, and how Brooke had found it in her to forgive him, I think it was a pretty uneventful night.

Not even fully aware yet, and already with the "my son saved me because he loves me" crap. Shut up Ridge, no one is turned on by you. Batie again. This is really shaping up to be a total snooze.

Holy cow, get to the point already! Li is the BOSS! You get her girl. But alas, her noble son will step in and save the fucking psycho, because he can't bend the rules. And he will also see it as protecting Li and her medical license. And, as @KerleyQpointed out, we will have to endure months of Sheila going on about how Finn saved her life because he loves her:

OOOPSY! Looks like the boys forgot who they were dealing with: Yes, how did Sheila get the keys to the car? She carried no purse with her over the ledge; I guess she just had them in her pocket, and of course the FOB didn't get damaged in the fall either. Bill knows where she is going; will we learn that Deacon has been in on it all along? I certainly hope so, because I want him to stay around. And I want to see the Alphabet kid return.

Psycho Sheila fell over a wall Psycho Sheila took a long fall Psycho Sheila hit the ground and went splat Up in Heaven Dr. Garvin gave a great laugh We are in Bell LA and in that universe no one dies from long falls; i.e. Ridge, Caroline 2.0, Hope, Bill, Thomas..... So, no doubt Sheila will pop up like a Boss and take off in into the great unknown. That, or she will be hospitalized where Mike will somehow help her make her escape. Because Show just cannot be done with this character. I did think it was hilarious that Sheila thought she could take $Bill though. I mean, Lauren, Brooke, Taylor, Li are one thing, but Bill? I really wish we would have had a classic throw down like the old days: What happens to law enforcement in LA? We all know the great ineptitude of the LA PD, at least Show's version of them, but the FBI too? Wouldn't you think they would have had at least one detail parked close by Bill's? No, it appears that all the LA FBI agents are over in Cambodia feeding the hungry.

Sheila didn't actually murder Dr. Garvin; it was an accident born from an argument, but she sure enjoyed the end result all the same. Lance Day on the other hand, was pure unmitigated murder, and now they have it all on tape and video. Even so, this is not the end of Sheila. There is, and never will be, an end to Sheila. She will get out of it somehow, and I fear will end up with Deacon because he is the character I have always rooted for, but Show is driven to fuck up. The color of Katie's blouse made her eyes sparkle like little diamonds.

"Seeing her nine grimy toes walkin around my house" I am DONE!

What a great episode! It is nearly criminal how much chemistry lurks between Bill and Ridge. And even though the whole SL is preposterous, I will take it because it is fresh and unexpected. That was the best episode since Brooke and Taylor told Ridge to go kick rocks. The dialog was snappy and funny, and it looked like TK and DD were having a blast. But I really want to know how they found out about Dr. Garvin and Lance. To my knowledge Sheila never disclosed those crimes to anyone, not even James Warwick.