Crazy Bird Lady

I hope he doesn't. Greg would make someone else a good husband -but Deonna can treat him like a dog begging for treats and so, she does.

Thank you, GONECRACKERS!

Nope. Matt is homeless, except for when he finds a woman to stay overnight with (or his 'buddies' are willing to put up with him). Amber, on the hand, still has a place to go back to.

They're about to show the Jamie version of last week's show, and we still don't have a post to respond to for tonight's episode.

I don't see a post for today's episode, "The Forever Decision".... (which I anticipate will be a bunch of blah blah -flashback- blah blah -flashback- blah blah -etc. but) I'm sure we'll want to comment on it!

If our current President resigns, Pence will become POTUS... That could be like having Iris as President!

With a *different* husband by her side, Beth would be the kind of friend who had plenty of fun ideas for things to do when you hung out --and as your friend, she'd tell you the truth straight-out. (She might confront someone who hurt you, though.) Jamie is another story.

I wouldn't want to marry or bang any of them... but it's definitely Matt for the kill, unless you include all seasons in which case there's a multi-jerk tie! 🤬

I like Greg because he is so obviously sincere, and his heart is truly into it. My second choice would be Keith. I think he's a good person who sometimes struggles with expressing himself, and he's definitely hung up on how to deal with the "taking her viriginity" thing (as well as the "my wife is hot and frigid at the same time, and I'm getting really frustrated! thing) --but I believe he's a good man with a good heart who really wanted a wife. My third choice would be Elizabeth, because I actually *like* spontaneous people. I know this is not a popular opinion, and I agree with everyone that Beth has a lot of "issues" --but she's the most open, expressive person on the show. MAFS really "did her dirty" when they paired her with Jamie. They were a horrible match from the beginning.

The whole point here is, they're married but they're not married. Their marriages are just part of a made-for-TV "experiment" that includes "marriage" as part of the experiment. They're legal marriages, but not real ones --at least, not until after Decision Day, when the TV cameras are finally removed from where they're living!

He's homeless, except for the place he shares with Amber -and he doesn't want to be there, so--

I think Jamie Matt is a very big douche, but he doesn't want to kill off Amber- he's planning to BS her into saying "yes" on D-Day, so that on nights when he doesn't score with another woman he'll still have a place he can go crash at 2:30 am (and raid the fridge, or maybe wake Amber up- and get his rocks off).

Yes, and he's full of shit. It's OK not to want sex every day of the week. It's also OK to prefer quality over quantity... and we all know that Jamie is a "quantity" kind of guy. (In fact, I'm pretty sure when he has sex, it's all about him.)

Not for Greg and Deonna.

This should be interesting! And just maybe, Deonna will explain why she's never been on Unfliltered before, even though everyone else has.

I'm forced to agree with you about Amber, even though I find her to be the second most most relateable and likable of his season's participants. Amber looked at Matt and saw the man of her dreams, a professional basketball player, and she was getting married to him! He was like like a pop star or a Super-bowl winner, to her. And suddenly, she was that young teenager dreaming of marrying a big, tall, strong pro basketball player. She was swept away into a fantasy world, and she only saw Matt through her idealized fantasy of what that would be like. Until it was way too late, she never even considered the effect that this could have on her career as a teacher.

GINGERANDCLOVES: I just wanted to thank you for, once again, taking the time to type this out and share it with all of us. You're awesome!

Ummm... except maybe for Greg's attitude-- a virginal woman who was really naiive about sex could easily come to the conclusion, after being around these other 3 couples, that no guy can want to have sex with a woman without being in the relationship for sex.

Sweet *and* adorable! I have mine in separate cages, and only let one out at a time (I don't want to have to find homes for babies, and I'm not sure I could bear to part with them anyway!) --but they approach each other through the cage bars, opening their mouths several times as the other bird approaches, then bob their heads several times, etc. (just like Elizabeth was doing in that clip!) before they start to kiss. That clip was only lacking the male "parakeet" (Jamie)...

That was awesome! I have flirting parakeets --and they totally do that dance!

Actually, Humbleopinion, I've seen a quarter removed from an 8-year-old kid's esophagus. It was done by endoscopy. Of course, that might not have been what happened with Iris, but it seems like a pretty good bet.

Oh. I actually do think it was the first thing Jamie decided with respect to Elizabeth. Remember after the wedding when her father had that "little talk" with Jamie, basically a warning, saying, "She's still my girl and I've got my eye on you!"?? Well, right after that, Jamie made a "talking head" comment (and I certainly don't recall the words) but it was something to the effect of "I'll have to do something about that..." And I completely agree with everyone, that Daddy Dearest came off as creepy --but something about Jamie's "talking head" response didn't set right with me, either. I think that's how her father and the relationship between Beth and her father first became a "thing" between them. In the beginning, I didn't think much about it beyond agreeing that the old guy is weird. But later, when they had their first ugly argument, Jamie kept battering at her (verbally) about her father, and her working for her father, and what was her Daddy paying her to do, etc. And it was definitely way over-the top...

We definitely agree that they're a terrible match! The MAFS "experts" should be fired for putting together "Mr. Picky" and "The Free Spirit"! As for the rest, we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm still quite open to the possibility that 'production's' editing is responsible for why we never see "Big Red" contacting any of her family, even Daddy Dearest --ever. But IF Big Red really has cut off contact with her family, I'm sticking to my guns that it's got to be because of Sneery's (very) deliberate ridicule, shaming, and interference... which is definitely a sign of (at least) verbal abuse.

You quoted me in that one, actually. Then, you commented: I agree that it won't happen to every person it's tried on. Abuse requires the abuser to find something in his/her target that they are already extremely insecure and (usually) very embarrassed about --then exploit the hell out of it, wearing their "loved one" down until they're afraid not to follow the abuser's 'rules'. I did acknowledge, up-thread, that although we never see Elizabeth talk to her father or her family on TV, it could be because of MAFS 'production' editing for maximum drama. But I do think it's a big red flag that we never see Elizabeth on the phone with her father that she's supposedly super-close to --especially since he's also supposed to be her boss! (And I remember one of those times when Jamie kept chasing Beth from room to room, angry and belittling her, he said something like, "Oh, you want to be alone so you can call your Daddy?")

You might be surprised at how effective manipulative abusers can be at isolating their partners from family and friends. I've seen it happen. https://www.webmd.com/women/features/domestic-abuse-recognizing-potential-abuser-feature#1 "Abusers try to isolate you: Abusers want to wear away at your support network. To do this, they may discourage you from being with family and friends or may even initiate conflict with them, causing them to avoid both of you." Yes, Farley, Elizabeth is extremely insecure. Sneery knows how sensitive and defensive she is about "nepotism" and about the stigma of "being lazy" or "being a failure" and ending up 'working' for her (strangely over-protective) father. But ILOVEPIE, you responded to my comment quoted below: Any real "couples counselor" (or psychologist) could tell you that -in abuse situations- Your partner cuts you off from family and friends: Keeps close tabs on where you go and whom you go with Makes you ask for an OK to see friends and family Embarrasses you in front of others, and it makes you want to avoid people. https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/mental-domestic-abuse-signs#1-2