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  1. Agree. I absolutely adored this show in season one. Like loved, loved, LOVED. This season I'm behind and when I asked my husband if he wanted to watch one to catch up, he said no, because Savage is getting on his nerves. And while I don't exactly feel the same and still mostly enjoy this watch; I see it. Show seems to have lost the good heart it had underneath the coarseness, and is now mostly about the shock value stuff. Which, frankly, wasn't at all why I was watching. It's a tightrope that few shows do well. Catastrophe and Fleabag being the only ones I can think of, and while I'd put
  2. I love most of the actors on this show, and Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin play off each other so well, as do Sam Waterston and Martin Sheen, that I usually enjoy my time watching it, and laughed a good bit this season, even if series does seem to be running in circles. Maybe I'm in the minority but I love June Diane Raphael as Brianna, FOR her awfulness, with (very) occasional grudging niceness followed by subtle self-loathing whenever she allows herself to feel. She is absolutely the worst, but in a delicious and very-funny-to-watch way. And, also in a way that is somewhat organic for the
  3. Except they're all supposed to be the same age/graduating class, except for Smulders, who is supposed to be two years younger (freshman when they rest were juniors).
  4. I can't believe I remember this, but they did discuss this in season one, where it was said that Sam wanted to keep her relationship with Ethan just a friends-with-benefits hook-up, even though he wanted to get serious, and then he met and fell in love with Lisa, bringing "the froshie" into their group, and Sam probably had some regret that he was able to move on…Also, probably more why she kept sleeping with him for so many years—that same ego feeding feeling of being wanted—than anything even close to actual love on her part, which I think we still saw portrayed this season. She was with Et
  5. You can not track conception to the day like that; that's a BS plot point. They use date of the last period, plus ultrasound measurement, and that can usually get within the week. But conception can take place across a 72-hour period, so reliably nailing it to the exact day is not a thing. They can test for sex and DNA if you have some genetic testing, which as she's 35+, they would likely be doing. (Aren't the characters supposed to be, like, 40-something? Again, the disparate actor ages vs same character ages are very confusing.)
  6. I didn't hate season one nearly as much as critics, and I kind of loved season two and watched it all in one long snow day gulp. This friend group, in particular the incredibly funny Fred Savage, with an extremely great performance by Billy Eichner as his saint of a fiancé, really cracks me up. They don't seem real (the actor's ages alone are a logistical nightmare for a group that supposedly all attended college together), and they're definitely terrible for each other and the world, but they're also really, really funny. I think they gave Jae W Suh so much more to do, and I love it, and the
  7. So, I would like to think this season (or "part" in Netflix parlance) for getting me out of an abusive relationship with this terrible, unfunny and ultimately depressing show whose highest praise at any point in its run was, 'Meh, it's fine I guess?' My husband travels a lot, and I try not to watch things we both like when he's away. Somehow, this has resulted in me seeing, up until now, every episode of this utterly mediocre, at best, show, thanks in large part to fond feelings about the non-Ashton Kusher/Danny Masterson cast members. (Growing up, my mom absolutely adored Sam Elliott an
  8. Makes sense Luke Perry directed this. Who else would make a camera man lie on the floor in order to make Dylan look tall enough to punch out the rocker guy, who is basically bizzaro Dylan to begin with. Also, that closed sign is so twee, I'm surprised it doesn't say "clothesd"
  9. Ugh, I hated this episode. I hated what they did to Junior. (This isn't how gap years work and is totally out of character for the Junior we know who has survived, and thrived, outside his parents purview for years.) I hated how they continue to have Dre treat him this way—cruelly and abusively—and play it for laughs. I hate that Dre and Bow sat in that ugly, impractical new kitchen and and talked about, 'Why could Junior possibly want to do this/not be ready/etc" and never even MENTION that, oh right, as he was graduating from high school we were divorcing and blowing up his world totally, t
  10. Hasn't Brandon's cheating been pretty recent? I mean, I know this season lasted 576 episodes, but we're talking months, not years or decades. I've seen relationships regroup after affairs and it's never a straight-forward thing; there are ups and downs, zigs and zags. The forgiveness and rebuilding of trust is a process. The instinct to put a bandaid on the wound with a new house, new baby, marriage proposal, etc. is also not unheard of, though often very ill-advised. Of course, that's all very serious, realistic and thoughtful and this show is none of the above and Brandon and Kelly clearly
  11. Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying. Word for word. ? The internet is fun! I was alive in the 1980s, but I was a kid. I do know what a women working in sports TV in the 1990s was like, though, and the number of times my (all male) bosses "joked" about how much of a raise I'd need to sleep with so-and-so for access is part of what makes me highly skeptical of the storyline. I disagree with none of this. I don't think Ruth would or should be OK with it happening…I just didn't think she'd be that surprised. Heck, the entire set-up, even before she knew it was dinner in a
  12. The arguement is definitely not that such things didn’t happen in the 1980s, duh. It’s that everyone, sans perhaps Debbie, is so outraged about it. That’s the anachronism. This is a normal and mostly accepted part of being in show business. The idea Ruth, a struggling actress, was shocked by it? Give me a break. And they all would have deemed Ruth hysterical for running away, not leapt to her defense. Like Debbie said, you don’t have to sleep with them, but you definitely have to let him think you might. Particularly Sam, who seemed super OK with perving on his own actresses. The guy we’v
  13. No matter when this was filmed, this was unquestionably the show's #metoo arc, even if you don't give it that name. And instead of telling us anything about Ruth, or even much about Debbie, though I think her reaction was spot on and realistic, it tried to make a hero out of the usually creepy himself, Sam. The entire season was so little about Ruth at all…She just let stuff happen to and around her. I didn't like this season as much as the first and I read a Vanity Fair article yesterday that really clarified why for me ... This season this show that is nominally about a group of women,
  14. A live show done for free—they made a big deal about how they were pulling people off streets to get an audience, not making money on tickets—vs a Vegas headling gig for profit is a wildly different.
  15. Just finished this and enjoy this show overall, even though I dislike wrestling and never saw the original GLOW though, technically, think I would have been in the age range. Even as a kid, I never got into any of the '80s wrestling stuff. Thought it was stupid even when I was 7-8, which is why we didn't watch this at all until relatively recently, finishing season 1 just before season 2 was released. My big question is ... If KTLA "owns" the characters, how are they taking them on the road to Vegas? Stage productions would almost certainly still be out of bounds without the rights. Also
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