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Of course. And I hope you're right about the actors filming in Seville. Beyond pure facts or discrepancies I see, I wouldn't trust myself because obviously, I want Gendry to make it😅 Friki might be wrong about anything that isn't directly Tyrion's trial, indeed.

Plot point of the episode: The dragons aren't hungry, precisely. 🙄 You can digress, it always go back to the same main point: Without Daenerys and her armies, exactly zero Northerner has a future to worry about. They're looking a gift horse in the mouth.

LOL, same here. Maybe Gendry, engineer extraordinaire, is busy rebuilding elsewhere :)) Gendry being there doesn't mean that Frikidoctor is wrong about everything. Bran staring at Tyrion and Dany pissed of at her Hand in 8x02 seem like ominous signs of something going wrong. It could be that Friki had partial info, but insisted that he knew everything. Imo, they didn't film only one sequence in Seville.

Ironically, in the books, it's Arya who's good at math. I vaguely recall a passage with Arya snarkily thinking something along the lines of "good luck to her poor castle" (in AGOT, maybe?). Officially, Drogon ate one child as a rogue. That's it. I've seen theories that it was actually a plot against the dragons, but anyway. Tyrion stressed that dragons are smart and don't hurt people when they have no reason to do so (feeling threatened, or threatening Dany).

Winter is less harsh in the South, proof is WF is under the snow and KL isn't, in this episode. Also, by re: dragons I mean they can de-ice the road spitting fire (like they did beyond the wall with the lake). Jon left saying he'd get dragonglass to create weapons to save the North and would try to get an alliance to save the North. He came back with dragonglass, concrete evidence of his priority, and an army to save the North. They know (at least Sansa and the lords do) that Daenerys is at war with Cersei and stopped her conquest to help them. If they don't get she's on their side, and has only good intentions toward them, they're dumber than a wight. Again, they beggars, not choosers. Daenerys, their only chance of survival, doesn't have to kiss their ass, less when her graciousness and good will was met with bratty rudeness. Awww. LOL.

[whinging/] For the record, I hate going through this season unpoiled. [/whinging] Re: Gendry's clothes. The scene from the trailer, where he wears just his shirt, didn't air yet; it should be 8x02 or 8x03 since he's in the WF forge. There's also this still below, where he gives Arya her weapon -maybe from 8x03 just before the battle. It's the same outfit he wears in 8x01, it seems a bit different from his leather costume on the HBO video, especially the collar part. None of this, of course, is significant enough. (see also: whinging above) I could see Arya and Gendry in the Riverlands, if the pack of wolves and Nymeria are involved this season, Arya would have to be there. If there's some Hot Pie cameo (or if the Inn is found like the Last Hearth...) Gendry knew him, too. But I could see him in Dragonstone if more weapons are needed, they could mine/produce directly there.

Jaime has a Valyrian steel sword. Still a rare nice thing to bring to the table :)) He's also proven recently he's an able military commander, or at least that he learned.

They didn't say he was dead, at the very least, and they showed him in the flash-back. However, Meera being gone doesn't bode well for her father showing up. Imo, Jon's parentage and birthright won't matter in the end. Whoever rules Westeros will probably be chosen for their role in saving the people from the AOTD, like Robert was chosen in the winning side after the Rebellion.

This show reminds me of Designated Survivor from mid-season 1 on, in the sense that it always ends on a cliffhanger and it never delivers in the next episode. The very definition of "anticlimatic". It was one of the better outings, yet it aired at the wrong moment. I agree, it should have been episode 2 if not the pilot. I guess this one didn't cost much to production, with all the re-used footage. I had yet again about three minutes of Raza Jaffrey, and I really liked the friendship moment between Daniel and Will. That, and the red-head agent in the beginning who kicked ass. It's a pity that Kelli Garner can't elevate the poor material she's given. Her character is so mousy and transparent. I didn't miss the other two. Too bad the red-head agent died, I'd have exchanged her against those three in a heartbeat. @weathered1, when they said the fiancée died in a plane accident, the first thing I thought was : "she's going to turn up alive". And probably eeeevil. But unless they planned it for this season, there's a high probability we'll never get an answer. TEW dropped to 0.6 last week vs basketball and it didn't rebound this week. It's a show in its first season, with no streaming deal. I don't think it will be back.

More than ever after 8x01, I believe that if it happens, it's a Northern girl hitting on Gendry re: the Bella scene in the books.

Precisely, in wintertime it's better not to stay in the North, especially since Daenerys is going South for the war. She can retreat in Dragonstone, where she'll be best protected, and icy roads are not a problem for her re: dragons. Again, Sansa didn't ask a constructive question and she didn't even address Daenerys directly. She snarked and berated, from the moment Daenerys set foot in WF. Daenerys made show of restraint, as far as I'm concerned. You believe that beggars can be choosers? As you wish, but I disagree. It is, but I think it's one of those problem with no good solution anyway. I can't say it's because plot demanded it, since if they wanted Ned Umber dead at the Last Hearth they just had to have Sansa announce that he wrote asking for more wagons. Isn't he? I thought that Lyanna disappeared between the moment he got injured and Lysa becoming pregnant, and he was recuperating at Riverrun at the time. The timeline is quite muddy there, so I must have confused.

Sansa's question would have been legit (crucial, even) if the AOTD's arrival was a matter of months or years, in other words if the Wall was still standing. It's a matter of days. When people say that Daenerys' armies give the North a chance, it doesn't mean a chance of being unscathed. It means a chance of not being wiped out. It shows that Sansa doesn't realize the real problem: either they're all dead in a few days, and no one will need food; either there are survivors thanks to Daenerys' armies yet less fewer mouths to feed, by the thousands. In case of easy victory (LOL)? Daenerys would go South in order to fight Cersei; since even if the latter respected her word, the truce would last only until that victory. Sansa didn't see the AOTD, it's normal in a way that she doesn't get the gravity of the threat. It doesn't excuse her rude and antagonistic behavior, which created needless difficulties within the alliance and prevented a constructive discussion from the get-go. I don't think it will provide them, either. For me, Lyanna sent word somehow, but it got lost or intercepted. If she wanted to keep her father out of it, she tried to reach Brandon who was on his way to Riverrun. And since LF was in Riverrun at the time...LF's little smirk when Sansa said that Rhaegar kidnapped and raped her aunt made me think he knew more than he said. The possibility died with him on the show; but it might be one thing that D&D "left" for GRRM to reveal in the books.

From what I've seen on social media: Main complaints about season 7: "Too rushed, too much action, not enough character moments and pay-off!" 8x01: full of character moments and pay-off. Same people: "Too sloooow, not enough action !"

Imo, Jon Bradley answering the tweet of that moron journalist, as well as the use of the interrogative form in the article, suggest that he will come around. I'd be more worried about Daenerys' endgame if everything was going seamlessly for her so far. Could be, but the only article about Harry Strickland so far presented him as "Cersei's new lackey", so it seems that the GC will obey her and not Euron. They set up an animosity between the two imo, with Buffoon yapping about killing some GC men. I agree that Euron might send his own troops to the North or to raid the Riverlands, OTOH. The NK doesn't exist in the books. On the show, aside from his creating the WW/raising the dead, they only revealed how the Children created him. IIRC, the actor in that flashback scene is the one who plays the NK "nowadays" in Westeros.

If Cersei sends Bronn alone to kill her brothers, it seems that she won't send the GC (1). However, she doesn't trust Bronn. Last season, she wanted to execute him as a traitor and in the books, IIRC, she tried to get rid of him. So maybe Bronn is a decoy. Jaime knows that she has the GC but that she doesn't intend to send the GC. So she counts on Jaime to tell the alliance, but uses Bronn so that they'll think (1) and don't expect an attack.

The common tongue, Dothraki and Valyrian...for the Volantis Escadron (hi queen Catherine😂)? It smells like a Dany pep talk to all the troops. And it's a smell I love 😄

I would love it if her little dialogue in the trailer was actually her telling the Northerners how she grew up hating Jaime but won't punish him because he did the right thing, and her father was evil. Maybe a couple of them could open their eyes and see she isn't the bloodthirsty Targ Reaper they fear. I have no idea how Arya is going to react, if at all, to Jaime. She (thankfully) didn't intervene directly in the political storyline so far. She saw him insult Walder Frey in 6x10, she could have killed him and she obviously decided against it. We have images of Jaime fighting so she clearly doesn't execute him or poison him in his sleep before the battle. Maybe she considers that if Bran doesn't want him dead, then ok. Hopefully, Jaime in WF means Brienne wallflowering will be limited to 8x01. I'm surprised there was no confrontation scene between Jon and Daenerys in the 8x02 trailer, to hype the drama. She looks sad in the crypts, surely she knows by then? I've always thought that J&D leaving was a big possibility and everything seems to go in this direction. I just don't know if it will be the Dark Knight or the Dark Knight Rises version re: their reputation in Westeros. If Jon at least is present at Tyrion's trial, people won't believe him killed in battle so they might just say byeee and not be believed dead. Edit: About Davos mentioning Jon and Dany ruling, it's a show that had Bronn describe the exact way the Mountain vs the Viper fight was going to happen, in the previous episode. Nobody is certain there could be such a "happy Targ restoration" right now, so who knows? LOL

I must have dreamed this episode where Daenerys was sold by her brother and raped on her wedding night. Or Dany losing her child, or having to mercy-kill her vegetable husband, starving in the desert, finding her friend's head in a bag, or being whipped. Every character suffered. Daenerys didn't have it easy. Everything she had, she earned. I guess it's easy to forget about it because her suffering isn't her only accomplishment or the most important thing about her character arc. She used her trials to get stronger, and didn't wallow in her suffering. When people supported her, she earned it, too. It's incredible how not being a bitch to people can win them over -except when they're TSTL, of course. Sansa's attitude isn't new, by the way. Remember how sweet she was to Septa Mordane in S1? Sansa isn't asked to trust Daenerys, she isn't asked to like her, not even by Daenerys herself. She's asked to respect her as her guest, as an ally of her house, as a huge military power that her precious North needs so much.

I thought that Alys Karstark's hair was noticeably redder than last season, and styled differently...more like Sansa's, whereas as far as I recall it seemed looser on her shoulders, before. Could it explain Sophie's comment about "a braid" leading people to guess spoilers? I don't know if it was a lucky guess or real info, but I tend to believe that Alys Karstark will die and her body will be briefly mistaken for Sansa's.

This, exactly. Margaery's "shall we pray" in S6 is how I imagined Sansa would play it and the character she should have been, imo. The writers are trying to make Sansa a "boss ass bitch" but it isn't her, she's supposed to be a boss in another way. Imo, Arya seeing him among the crowd was a stroke of genius (it worked as well for the Hound and Gendry). Like this, people who waited for the reunion weren't mad about Arya's absence in the courtyard, because they had something before, and Jon and Arya could have their private moment instead of being caught in the political awkwardness. Arya's look when she saw him had the image of her about to throw away Needle come to my mind. Jon could have a proper reunion both with his brother and his sister, separately, and the emotional impact was maximum. Jon and Bran's reunion was much better than I imagined, too, in those settings. Jon tearing up when he saw Bran made me all teary eyed, too. Oh, and Tormud and Edd's BFF hug? Was another of those little details that made me love the episode.

Yes, it is, since the king bent the knee to her. That's how it works in Westeros. The North has zero chance to survive without her armies and her dragons. If anything, they should prove themselves valuable of the sacrifices she made and is going to make for them.

I hope I'll never get to know. Like Margaery's grand plan. But it seems to imply that if she has a target, it's Dany and not Sansa. More fleaks officially fleaks, then.

Those were among my favorite lines. Arya and the Hound got each other, I think. She didn't cower and assume her past actions, he'd appreciate it. Maisie was excellent but Rory McCann did a great job, too, because on rewatch he had a very very faint smile when the Hound told Arya "that's why you survived";

Bran did push him with his "now is the time", and I don't blame Sam for being emotional (I blame the writers for not portraying Sam and Dickon as close back in S6, though, because his reaction wasn't believable). However, he did act petty and that's where he lost me. It's even worse than what I expected because imo, he wasn't only so pissed off at Daenerys that he forgot about Jon's feelings. He was pissed off at Jon, too, because Jon didn't agree with him and refused to say that Daenerys was wrong. The more Jon denied, the more he pushed. Instead of "hey, remember how much you wanted to know about your mother?" he dropped the king bomb. It's a telltale of his motivations at that moment. He didn't care how his pushing him on the throne hurt Jon, fine. But he knows exactly the nature and extent of the threat, so he should understand that creating a rift in the alliance is galactically stupid. I can't get over the sheer stupidity of his last "you gave up your crown to save your people, would she do the same?". Was it supposed to make Jon hesitate? No matter how I interpret it, it's off the mark. Did Sam mean that Daenerys wouldn't sacrifice anything for others? Hellooo, Jon was there when she risked her life and lost one of her children to save him. Did he mean that Daenerys would place her crown above saving her people? Hellooo, she's in the North precisely because she didn't. Furthermore, not only Jon didn't bend the knee because Daenerys was the Targ heir, he refused to bend the knee to Daenerys in 7x03 solely because she was the Targ heir. He wouldn't now be able to claim that rule to sit on the throne himself...not that Jon would ever, LOL. He isn't a fickle hypocrite. Chilling with the elephants in Nobudgetland.

Didn't Tyrion tell Daenerys why Jaime killed her father back in S6? Since she called her father an "evil man" afterwards, when she met the Greyjoys, it seems she believed him.