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He falls into Cluster B of Personality Disorders- Antisocial Personality Disorder to be exact. IMHO, of course.

I don't think he would've be sitting pretty in recovery. Not only did he have addiction issues but he had a sadistic streak that sobriety won't cure.

I'm loving all of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills references!! Many of these girls are basically Housewives-in-Training. Has the B ever had a medium on? It would cool to show what the girls do with all of their time. If it's really nothing, they could could bring in mediums, hold cooking classes, spa days, etc. just like on the HW shows.

Yes, Jared should've told Lourdes then gone to see Michaela. That hardly ever happens on tv and probably less IRL. Human aren't keen on being alone so doing it the right way is too scary. Characters and real people who actually do it the right way get so much respect. Not that I think leaving your spouse for your soul mate whether you tell them or not first is a good idea!! I think if Jared is Catholic and married in the Catholic church, he could get an annulment (the marriage made invalid) since he (possibly) went into the marriage under false pretenses.

I would feel some type of way if I was the girl(s) he kissed (did Colton only kiss one?) and I didn't get the First Impression Rose. I know that kissing isn't a prerequisite for anything but I would still feel bad. I wonder if in their head it's "there are girls you kiss and girls you give the First Impression Rose to" kind of rationale. For all of the Statisticians of Bachelor Nation: Was the First Impression Rose ever given to one of the girls kissed at the intro party?

Maybe people like that don't really have life goals to be on this show. HA!! You are probably right!!!!

Why don't they ever have any intellectuals? More like Charlene (the opera singer) would be refreshing. Smart people can be good looking too! I am an RN and have seen lots of good looking male and female docs. The gorgeous young guy who tutored me in Stats was a post-doc in Mathematics at one of the best science/robotics/engineering universities in the world. He was normal and "cool" not nerdy at all.

I am most interested in Jared and Mick out of everything.

I'm so excited this is back on!!

Demi is 23!!! There are a lot of young ones-again. I wish they did one with older people as in at least 30.

Dog girl looks 35. A very good 35 but still 35. is that dog girl??

Who knew sequins were back in?? Seriously, when did they come back in style? My God, these girls are gorgeous.

I don't like ANY of those weird things they do just to get remembered by the B/ette. Never have, never will.

I didn't think it would be so much of a big deal but it is. I think it's because he's not a virgin due to a religious belief. I think it's really sad that he's gotten this much grief over it. I think it's great that he is a virgin. However, he's not really a virgin virgin in that I'm sure he's done *everything but PIV, right? *I've read that there are girls (maybe Colton, too?) who believe they are virgins since they do everything including AS but just not PIV. That is lunacy. Full disclosure: I'm not a virgin. Having sex with your bf/gf was common in the 80's at my high school. Literally all of the people I hung out with were not virgins. Later in life I became a Christian and got to know a lot of virgins. Some it was for religious reasons/good morals/no opportunity. I wish I had done things differently.

He really did purposefully put himself into withdrawl to scam Deb even more. He knew it was only temporary and he was going to continue to use.

It was interesting to see what may have been going on "behind the scenes." He is a sick one. After the finale I am going to listen and read all of the real stuff so I'll have a much clearer picture of what happened.

I edited my original answer.

The real John Meehan is HOT, HOT, HOT!! I'm sure that he got away with tons of stuff due to his looks! EDIT: The photo of him at the beach is really the one I'm thinking of when I say that. In other photos he looks kind of nerdy.

I think they are both married. I went to church with a gal who met a guy when she was there doing ministry. Her parents met him and approved and he really sounded like he was decent. They were getting married when he got out. I can't remember her last name to google her!

THIS. Trey's #1 job in life is to protect his family and nothing less. Debra is a grown woman on her 5th husband who has shown that she has poor judgement, lacks insight and chooses men over her family. You can't have 5 husbands and still cling to family being the most important thing in your life. She has chosen men over her family before, others were probably not that great either but John takes the cake. I'm worried for the poster who thinks Trey sent her back to her abuser and questions if Trey is the one in the wrong!! The book Boundries by Henry Cloud and John Townsend is excellent about when and why boundaries need to be set and hope that he/she sees this and considers reading it.

Maybe he gets hospital grade opioids from an entrepreneurial yet very unethical and criminal healthcare provider (MD, DO, RN, NP, PA, RPh) who is diverting meds. They themselves aren't doing drugs but only selling them for the money. I wonder if it ever came out where he was getting them.

He really was dope sick. One can't fake that kind of sweating, vomiting and high BP. I'm an RN and see addicts all of the time. I have to assess if they are in withdrawl by administering the COWS (Clinical Opioid Withdrawl Scale) and treat as necessary. https://www.drugabuse.gov/sites/default/files/files/ClinicalOpiateWithdrawalScale.pdf I think he's even more of sicko to put himself through a withdrawl just to get back into Deb's good graces.

I liked this episode! I wanted to punch Deb and hug Ronnie!! I didn't listen to any of the real stuff out there so is Deb that pathetic-sounding IRL?

Thanks Lizzing!!