tangerine95

I don't even really care how it plays out in the books if it's Jon kills Dany.To me that's always been a disgusting ending if it's nissa nissa sacrifice type or putting down mad queen dany or whatever version.

Same she suffered so much because of the decision to help the north and by listening to his counsel and Tyrion's she gave Cersei the opportunity to do this.

Same,I think I'm going to stop watching already tbh

Thanks for finding it.Wow that's just about the worst ending I can imagine.I guess I'll watch ep 4 and if I see it going in this direction I'll have to somehow suppress all memory of having watched GoT 😂

Which leak is that?I'm getting so confused lol

Yeah that's a really gross implication in this leak imo.Making the unsulied who suffered so much and who die to save westeros,kill innocents.Really hoping this is a fake leak that took off because it all sounds really terrible.

I think the Tarly thing is pretty weak for some mad tyrant narrative but after episode 3 I feel like almost all bets are off tbh.

I was so sure WF was going to burn down completely and we weren't even going to see it start being rebuilt until like an epilogue maybe.And based on the promo for episode 4 they pretty much repaired the damage lol

I get your point and yeah it could go that way.I just feel like in light of huge loses after the great war they'll have to reexamine if they can afford not to use the dragons when it's the one real advantage they have.

I just don't see how Dany avoids using the dragons at this point tbh.Her armies are severely weakened,Cersei probably has her beat there.The dragons are the one advantage and I think she'll have to use them.We'll see if the extent or circumstances cross into being cruel and not caring about people's lives but don't see how she gets rid of Cersei without using them at all tho.

I thought that was Rhaegal?But yeah I think Cersei is taking down a dragon unfortunately,she doesn't have that weapon made for nothing.

Same,I love him so much.I used to be sure the dragons die because I believed that all magic will disappear idea now I actually have a bit of hope they survive which might make it worse lol

It seems to me that Friki was only ever confident in his Tyrion leak and the episode 1 summary.The rest were his speculation,including Jon and Dany.And now that the show really surprised him he's less sure and thinks anything could happen.Which is pretty much most people after episode 3 lol.

I'm honestly not sure what I think about the Sansa and Tyrion scenes.They definitely had some romantic vibe happening but idk if it's necessarily a sign they'll end up together or even that their feelings about each other will be relevant going forward.I could see it both way.As set up for them deciding to get married again.Or I could also see it as a way to bring up Tyrion's divided loyalties when it comes to Dany and just an emotional scene,brought on by the fact that they might die, between basically the only two main characters in the crypts. I do think they would probably be perfect for each at this point tho.They both think they're smarter than anyone else and can just judge people together lol

That's my thing as well.I just don't see it.Plus that would very likely mean two mad queens who get killed by their lovers who are related to them lol.Seems a bit much to me I guess. I do think the show has been teasing Mad Queen Dany in the sense that you have Sam and Sansa doubting and hating her.But her actual actions don't support the narrative tho.With Tyrion I can see hints of possible betrayal mostly in the fact that he still think Cersei is pregnant and Sansa saying that line about his divided loyalties.I think on both we'll get to see where its going next episode when Dany is dealing with Jon's parentage and Tyrion is faced with that Dany is back at war against Cersei.Jaime also may be a factor there imo because despite fighting at WF,I'm not sure he's actually over Cersei and I think he'd want to protect his kid for sure.While Dany seems pretty done with giving Cersei any chances anymore.

I mean yeah that's the only thing I could see that could.But Dany actually going stuff that would make her the mad queen after she was risking her life and lost most of her army in the war against the NK is the part I have a hard time believing.

It would be so gross.To justify it would require such ooc behavior from both Jon and Dany in the last 3 episodes.

I don't really buy it tbh.I think this leaker definitely had legit info but all his other stuff was from a source who worked on the Ireland set for 6 months or something like that.They don't seem to have any info beyond ep 3 and the Jon kills Dany thing which they say they aren't 100% is real.So idk what to think.I see zero reason for Jon to do that and imo Dany wouldn't be saving his life in this episode if it was going to end like that.Guess we'll have a clearer idea next episode if they go hard to the mad queen stuff.

My biggest problem with the episode was that it was so dark,I literally couldn't see until I turned up the brightness on my TV lol. I thought it was great,the battle scene were amazing and terrifying.You could really feel the desperation and how hopeless it seemed most of the time. I was expecting more deaths tho.The ones that died were pretty emotional.Jorah dying in Dany's arms while Drogon curled up around her made me cry.Theon desperately trying to protect Bran and being told that he's a good man.Never thought I'd care about Theon so much but that was an earned redemption for sure.I really wasn't expecting Lyanna to die and tho she died a badass I still think that was pointless and she should have been in the crypts.I don't understand why Sam was on the battlefield,he's a bad fighter and he spent most of the battle crying and almost getting killed.He also should have been in the crypt and maybe poor Edd wouldn't have been focused on protecting him. Loved all the stuff with the dragons,I knew they would make them somehow unable to be at full strength tho.The storm was a good way to do that.We didn't get much of the Dance of Dragons with undead Viserion but the stuff we got was stunning imo.When Drogon was attacked by all those wights I really thought that was it for him. Sansa was kind of a mess this episode.I genuinely can't find excuses for her seeing the army of the dead,seeing Dany's people dying to save them and then still going into the crypts and complaining about Dany with so much disdain.She wasn't even doing her own job,even 15 year old Sansa knew to comfort the women and children during a battle but she doesn't now. Jon had less to do than I expected but I was okay with it and him not being the one to kill the NK didn't bother me.He fought bravely like usual and it was really amazing to see two dragon riders in battle.Dany was a total badass,I love that she fought both on the ground and in the air.

I mean I agree it would be boring if Jon killed him,I always hoped they wouldn't make it come down to a sword fight.But then what was the point of all the Prince/Princess that was promised stuff,i still don't think Arya fits that.I guess it wasn't about literally killing the NK.

I love that Arya killed the NK but I'm not sure I love that the long night storyline is over so soon.I feel that after all the build up he should have been the final villain and actually made it to KL.I love Cersei and she's a more compelling character but it does seem kinda underwhelming after fighting literal death.Guess I'll judge after seeing how they deal with it tho.

I think there's still room for Tyrion's betrayal to be real but it's pretty clear he's not already plotting it with Cersei.I could see him betraying the Starks for Dany especially if he believes Jon is a threat to her claim but it would also be a betrayal of her if he does it without her knowledge and approval.There's also still Cersei's baby.They made sure Tyrion knows the pregnancy wasn't a lie,I could see him doing something stupid to protect the baby. It could also just be that he does something the rest don't agree with in order to win the war against the NK.Friki said Tyrion will trap people in KL,maybe it was something he felt was necessary while Jon and Dany couldn't make that call.But what doesn't fit for me is Friki's info that Tyrion says "they deserve it" or the "I never bet against my family".I can't imagine Tyrion as he was these 2 episodes saying that stuff.I guess there's still a lot to happen tho so we'll see.

I don't think they're actually writing Dany as power hungry or mad at all.This episode she pardoned Jaime,forgave Tyrion and kept him as hand,listened to advice from Jorah,Sansa and Jon,she tried to bond with Sansa,she didn't leave the war after she found out about Cersei like was much speculated.The fact that she still wants to be queen,I honestly don't see the big deal.She clearly made the war with the NK a priority and knows she could die in it before ever reaching the throne and she's still there. But I do agree they want people to believe she could be going the Mad Queen route so they interrupt her reaction to Jon's parentage and make it ambiguous enough that you can interpret it a few ways and they have other characters question her.But imo it's very obviously misdirection and pretty weak set up if she was going to be an antagonist especially on the level of Cersei.

Same lol.I didn't get it and it was a bit weird in the middle of a war council

I'm not sure Dany would give up her crown,tho I wouldn't be shocked if she did.They seem to be heading towards some idea of how giving up the crown makes her worthy of it 🙄 She could also want to make Jon her heir and his kids to inherit the throne.I do think the angst could be about that,the fact that she can't have kids and if they're together then their house dies out.She could want him to marry someone else and push him away.