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As Valen said above, Reality Steve is now wavering

Do you think Chris Harrison told Peter the day of the final rose ceremony about Madison? Is that the scene we see where Peter is laying on the bed? If so, I am curious when she actually left and if the producers purposely did not tell him until then. Would not surprise me at all. Because Steve said she was already back in the states so he couldn't talk to her there.

Steve has said this is not speculation, this is what happened. I know a lot of people do not care for Reality Steve, but I love that he one upped ABC yet again, LOL!

WOW. I didn’t see that coming!

I thought they couldn’t sit out back to back challenges??

These are the same people who put the final 3 women together during fantasy suite week! I put nothing past them, LOL!! Per Reality Steve....Peter is not with Kelly. And Kelly is not pregnant! That’s the latest rumor! Steve said he will give us most of the finale info tomorrow.

Where did you read that? I’d be surprised if they didn’t throw some youngsters in!

I listened while I was cleaning. I thought she threw some shade on a different podcast last week, but wow. She was really down on her on Nick’s podcast. I was happy Nick stood up for Madi for a lot of it. However, Nick did say, now that she’s come back, she knows the drill and should have decided to put it all behind her.

Quoting myself to say this. Reality Steve mentioned something about that "I'm sorry" scene being filmed post show. Now I may remember something about that. So maybe my theory is totally wrong. Per Steve..."We know filming took place post-show in that clip of him saying he’s so sorry and that he never expected this to happen."

Part of Steve's blog today. Looks like he will give us more info tomorrow or Thursday, once he talks to this source one more time....... As we head down the final week, I’m seriously still trying to get as close as I can to telling you what goes down in the finale. I know what they said last night about “Peter doesn’t even know,” but I think that may be a play on words. I do not think after over 3 months I’m somehow going to get the solid confirmation I need about the finale in this last week. However, I do have a pretty good source that I believe does have the right ending. Albeit they couldn’t provide proof of it, but, it seemingly matches up with a lot of what I’ve heard this season and I believe their account of what goes down is accurate. I’m just trying to see if I can get a couple last few details. Either way, I will share that tomorrow or Thursday on the beginning of the podcast. What I can report about the finale/ending are these things (most of which I’ve been reporting from the get go): -It was not a normal final rose ceremony where two girls arrive, one gets dumped, the other gets picked, and he left Australia an engaged man. -There was no engagement in Australia. -Madison self eliminates. It’s either during the day portion of her last date with Peter (clips of which we finally saw last night), or on final rose ceremony. But she definitely leaves the show and goes home. -When Barb is saying “don’t let her go…bring her home to us” that is the same day as when they met Madison. -Hannah Ann is 100% not with Peter right now. And no, not because of what happened this past weekend. I’ll get to that in a second. But yeah, one thing I’ve been pretty sure of in the last couple weeks is that as of this moment, Peter is not with Hannah Ann, nor will he be come finale night. I just don’t have anything told to me in the last 3 months that backs that up. HOWEVER, there’s still the issue of did Peter choose Hannah Ann AT the fine rose ceremony after Madison left, thinking that’s what he wanted, only to break it off post-show. We know filming took place post-show in that clip of him saying he’s so sorry and that he never expected this to happen. I’ve heard that theory. I just don’t know if it’s true or not. But in case you didn’t see or hear, Hannah Ann spent a lot of Saturday with former UT QB Josh Dobbs, a friend of hers. She even posted on her IG story she was with him at the TN basketball game, so it’s not like she was trying to hide it. Now these are unconfirmed reports, but I kept hearing all night on Saturday that people said they were all over each other and making out. Like I said, unconfirmed reports and anyone can say that without providing any proof. Nobody ever did. Not to mention, I can’t imagine Hannah Ann would be that stupid a week before her finale to be making out with someone as recognizable as Josh Dobbs. But nonetheless, these were some of the pics that people did capture of them together. You can draw your own conclusions on if you think she is someone that’s gonna show up next Mon/Tues on the ATFR and say she’s with Peter. Certainly doesn’t seem like it, but hey, who knows? As mentioned, tomorrow or Thursday I will lay out the scenario from my source of how things play out this season, the end, and post-show. It’s NOT 100% confirmed, but it’s what I’ll run with and see if it matches up come Monday/Tuesday since you’re all wanting something.

Is that Nick’s latest podcast?

So really nothing new. Thanks!

What are they??

Tammy and McKenna will have to both be there!! Together! And Sydney too.

I want to know who Peter went to see, when he’s crying and saying he’s sorry. I’m guessing it’s HannahAnn. I think he’s trying to make it work with Madi and that’s why no one knows the ending. He is visibly affected by her. I think it’s pretty obvious. I think when Chris Harrison tells him something shocking at the end, it’s that Madi was not showing up. I usually think those previews are all a lot of nothing on the end, but this time may be drama worthy. If that’s the case, my guess is that’s the cliffhanger they will end with on Monday night.

Or maybe hoping to be the first senior Bachelorette!!

I think the show should practice what they preach and stop airing all the nastiness each season. The show makes it the center of attraction.

I agree with your guess.

I want to know who Peter who saying I’m sorry to in the previews. I think it was HannahAnn.

That’s exactly why I’m thrilled Clare is the next Bachelorette!

Too much honeymooning! Actually, I thought her face looked different. Hey, if she turns up pregnant, we can say we noticed first! (No rumors please!)

I’m behind tonight. I’m watching Kelsey in the hot seat. Two observations... One....I think Kelsey got her lips botoxed. Two...that was Kelsey’s Bachelorette audition. Before they chose Clare. Also, was it just me, or did Ashley I look different?

Probably because this was filmed over a week ago and they hadn’t chosen yet.

Amen to that!!!

And I read they were seen all day but it didn't seem like it was a date.