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Is she a Baptist, though? I thought she just verified the religious worker's guess in order to curry favor with him. i started disliking this show from the moment the revenge plot was revealed. There is no one on the show that I have any sympathy for...well, Maddy's husband and Ritter's son seem decent enough. The rest of them are pretty awful people. I love Bates, but I dunno if I can stick with this. I feel like I need a shower after every episode.

I LOVE John Billingsley. One of my all-time favorite HITG! actors. A great working actor, he has never been out of work. I thought his acting was fine here, but he is saddled with crappy writing. I genuinely dislike the writing in this show. I adore Kathy Bates,but I loathe her character. She is manipulative and conniving, willing to sacrifice her grandson and her marriage in the service of revenge for her dead daughter. I can't imagine it will be worth it. She may well win, but will come out of the other side with a damaged grandson and marriage - and her daughter will still be dead. I'm not liking this at all.

It's such a cheap and easy plot device, Yeah no. Big Bad Pharma!

I think it's fair to point out that last year's cliffhanger was a bit of a nothing. IIRC, our last image of Jay was dire. One leg looked like it was badly broken. Turned out he was fine.

Of course they were based on that. The Palladinos are not known for their original thoughts. SPOILERS!!! Of course: Pallandinos explain TMMM ending

Of course, there will be a movie. There will also likely be a musical.

Thanks for coming out of lurkdom for that. From it:

Right! Thanks so much! I think having Mark and his son around more could be interesting. Mark already kind of knows that something is going on, and if he finds out about the ghosts, we could have some fun Jay-style interactions from him. Maybe his son won't lose his ability to see the ghost(s). Good point. I honestly gave up any kind of rhyme or reason to ghost logic long ago. Another good point! It was just so weird to end the season with "I hope it's Trevor". Was that the first time that he didn't call him "No Pants"?

Brought over from The finale of Season 2, The Heir. There was a discussion about the WGA writer's strike underway right now, and some confusion regarding what the strike is about. It is about losing jobs to Artificial Intelligence. It's pretty scary. Here's Justine Bateman's take on this From the linked article:

I look forward to seeing the restaurant, too - and more of Mark and his son. I like Mark even if Pete is jealous of him. Can't Mark's son see the ghosts, at least for now, like Hetty did Thor - or could Hetty only hear Thor? Did I imagine that Mark's son could see/hear them? Three things I'm curious about regarding the end of this episode: Jay was so sick he was afraid to stand: 1). so why didn't Sam leave him at home and get the Pepto Bismol for him 2). why does Jay hope that Trevor is the ghost Sam thought she saw being sucked off? *that hurt to type* 3). when did Jay stop calling Trevor "No-Pants"? Different acronym, yes, but SWG split into 2 separate and distinct unions nearly 70 years ago. Both unions struck in 2007-2008, but only WGAW is striking right now. No idea what OOC stands for, other than "out of character", btw. :) I apologise if I sounded as if you didn't come up with talking points on your own. That was not my intent - but the fact remains that the ones you used are the same opinions - not facts - that anti-unionists have been using to slur unions for many decades. WGAW is not responsible in any way if TPTB use this strike to extract more money from consumers. For the last time (I promise!), this WGAW strike is not about more money, it's about keeping the jobs that they have. On that note, while I likewise appreciate the exchange, and I hope others have, I looked for another thread to take this conversation further, if you want. This was the best I could come up with. See you over there if you have anything further? Small Talk: Ghostly Chats - Ghosts (US) - PRIMETIMER

Sam and Jay could sue him for malpractice and get enough money to pay off whatever debts they still have on the property. I had thought for a minute that maybe the lawyer and ersatz heir had somehow died (a water heater/boiler accident? Drowning their sorrows in poisoned hootch?) and got sucked off together, but upon a rewatch, I saw they had already left the building. They are pretty bad people, though, conspiring to thieve, so they probably would have gone down, anyway. ;) I agree with that statement, upon the initial inception of unions. They served a purpose once upon a time. Now, they exist merely to perpetuate themselves, their power, their bank accounts, with a few exceptions (perhaps SWG is one). Ok, now I understand a little better, thank you. You are essentially merely repeating anti-union talking points/opinions as facts with no apparent understanding of what the current writer's strike is actually about nor even who is striking. The SWG hasn't existed since 1954. It's the WGA that is striking, because TPTB are trying to take away not only the writers' residuals to keep for themselves but are also trying to replace living breathing writers with Artificial Intelligence. Sorry, I left out a word: cost . The cost of the monetary gains will ultimately be passed on to the viewers. Again, the WGA is not asking for "monetary gains". They are trying to hold on to their very jobs. TPTB want to save themselves the fair wages they are already paying and stop paying any wages in the future. If they are successful, we will be watching tv from scripts written by AI, and it is very unlikely that TPTB will be passing along those savings to viewers.

And you can bet that any monetary gains they get for the writers will not be passed on to the advertisers I am completely baffled by this exchange. None of it makes sense to me. Unions exist to see that people are paid fair wages, amongst other things. Writers are not looking for more money in this strike, they are trying not to lose their residuals and trying to keep WGA members from being replaced by artificial intelligence, which is starting to be a real possibility. ...and why on earth would any monetary gains from the strike be passed on to advertisers? That makes no sense at all. Back to the show: I'm wondering if we might get a twofer with the mean girl and the cellar ghost? I can't believe that any of our more prominent ghosts will be taken away from us. Thor also knew what DNA was but still refers to a car as a landship. He's doing that just to annoy everyone, right? I think he does it to amuse himself, yes. "used longboats"? C'mon! He's having us on. :)

No that was definitely the spotlight on top of the police car when the cops told them to put out the fire on their pond. The writers set it up that way for just that reason too. To fool the audience for 1 second then to show "gotcha" with the pull away to the cop car. While the police car light was definitely there, both of those things could be true. I think that was deliberately left open to interpretation.

You mean the credits that most people never watch? I think you are both correct. Sutton was 100% Laura Petrie. Azaria was a Van Dyke/Thomas combo.

Weren’t those car headlights they all misinterpreted in the moment? I think they left that open for interpretation.