Mojeaux

I’m backed up on my watching, so I just saw this episode last night. I must be incredibly patient or weird, but I’m totally down with this show even though I haven’t read the books. I’m patient with table-setting, I haven’t lost a thread yet (although when Quincannon was introduced a while back, I was scratching my head but then I saw his fab midcentury modern office), and Tulip hasn’t annoyed me too much yet. (I doubt I could hate any character as much as I hated Juliette). I like anti-heroes, even if they are a cliche, so neither Jesse’s nor Tulip’s supreme douchebaggery bothers me. I can’t understand half of what Cassidy says, either, but I’m not sure it’s necessary. Re Emily’s crush on Jesse: That almost-kiss was painful to watch. He’s clueless. She’s hopeless. I almost started crying FOR her. Oh, honey, you’re not 15 anymore. I know it hurts. What I like MOST about this is it’s bizarre. The things everyone doesn’t like, I do. Someone in a different thread said the 1881 opening sequence was very Tarantino-esque and I agree and I love me some Tarantino. As I said, I’m very patient and I love shaggy-dog stories.

Re: Mum casting 1. I am disappoint. 2. She looks like Chloe. Aghdashloo wouldn’t have been my first choice, but she would’ve been a fine one. I am disappoint.

I’m part of the “never read the comic and am totes on board” brigade. Mr. Mojeaux is going along with it for now, although it’s a bit too out there for his taste. It’s just too over-the-top bizarre for me to resist.

I’ve been busy, so I just caught this last episode last night. Someone earlier said LDS (Mormons) have a doctrine that God has a wife (yes, we do), ho hum. So it pleased me that they went there. For me, taking that a few steps farther was squee-inducing. OMG WHAT DID SHE DO TO BE BOUND IN HELL?! Awesome. I immediately envisioned “Mum” would be a hot seductress type, but in reading the replies, I realized that would be a cliche. Someone mentioned that she manifest as a child (ugh, Claudia in Interview with a Vampire). I think it would be HILARIOUS if she turned out to be a tiny old woman in a Jackie O. Chanel suit with pearls and a small handbag. Polite, soft-spoken. Think physically smaller Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote) or any other old woman in a cozy mystery. How could anybody like THAT terrify Lucifer? If she turns out to be smokin’ hot now, I’ll be disappointed.

Oh, hey I know what you mean, but! The Kindle Paperwhite (actually, any e-ink reader) is a godsend. Easier on the eyes than paper and it’s backlit IF you want to read at night. It’s not bright at all (if you don’t want it to be). My 13yo won’t read on her phone or tablet and she resents the weight of boks on her backpack and holding them in her hands. She LOVES my Kindle. However, I have demoted her to using the very old one because she’s a hoarder and she loses it in her hoard. (I didn’t mean for that to wrap around so on point, but there you go.)

Re Maze and Amendiel: Their chemistry was off the charts the first time we see them together. I think they got together for the sake of getting together. An enemies-as-lovers thing. Lucifer's inside woman or whatever, I think that's something to tell Lucifer. Like she's going to tell him she's got a big fat crush on his brother?

This is what ebooks are for.

That’s what I thought the second I saw her, and that perhaps the rest of her appearance was because she couldn’t keep up her former looks. If the sister was representative, I can see how a stroke (or Bell’s palsy) would affect such things. She also spoke slowly and deliberately, but what came out was very smart and well-thought-out.

Just watched this episode. I’m meh about Sandy. She’s not all there. She moved back in to take care of mom. Where was Nona when the mom needed help? Where was Nona in 10 years? You’ve got a house and you don’t go look at it? Sandy says, “You didn’t come to see me in 10 years!” (Subtext: So now you show up and act like you care? Seriously?) And Nona says, “Because I didn’t want to get through this!” (Subtext: I knew this was like this ten years ago and I ignored the problem until people started making complaints and forced me to do something.) Ten years. Ten years she knew what was going on. Did NOTHING. Nope, don’t feel sorry for her at all. And no, I don’t believe she’s concerned about Sandy. She was mad because the municipality nailed her and she was under the gun. And I still want to know why there was no mention of Nona taking care of the mom. Who left her the house. Who abandoned it to Sandy. There was way too much bad blood there for me to believe it was just the house. Poor Len. Oh he just broke my heart, especially when he said he kept the stuff from feeling lonely and now that it was gone, it was worse (or something like that). I’m a minimalist (fam’s not) and even *I* was grieving the loss of his stuff. I thought it was QUITE obvious that Len withdrew when they were teasing him, and I did think Dr. Green could have said, “Perhaps it would be helpful if we respected his feelings of embarrassment and not make it worse,” because he was up front about that. But they were kind and loving otherwise. Other than the teasing, which makes me think the family is close enough to be comfortable with it (although Len wasn’t), I liked this family.

Re Det Douche, he overheard her on the phone talking to her mother, no? And she was saying he didn't work at the family thing at all and she couldn't take it any more. So based on his behavior from the beginning of the series, I got the impression he would rather work than spend time with his family. Furthermore, I thought it was way too rich for him to be saying, "I'm so disappointed in you, Chloe." Um, dude. If you're not taking care of your wife and she wants out of the relationship because you prefer to do anything BUT spend time with your family, you don't get an opinion. Notice after he overheard that conversation, THAT was when he started working at it (Taco Tuesday and helping her with the Palmetto case). It was like the lightbulb came on for him. I may be wrong on my impression, but that's the vibe I've gotten all along. In the pilot, I got the impression he could barely stand to be around her. He was definitely embarrassed by her Palmetto faux pas. So I think he's got a bad case of you-don't-know-what-you've-got-till-it's-gone and now he's playing catch-up.

I do not know why, but I watered up when that inspector person Paul (Alan's story) talked about his prostate cancer, and then how he helped Alan all along and helped get him to where he is now, and then to find out he died. I don't know why, but that made me really sad.

I was watching last week’s episode yesterday morning, and Dorothy introduced herself. I said, “Dorothy, I’m still mad at you from last episode.” Mr Mojeaux gave me the side-eye.

Funky Rat, I don't know you (obviously), but you're an inspiration.

In previous seasons, they’ve had city people and vets out to look at the hoarded animals and take them away. In my neck of the woods, that would have been a crime. There should (would?) have been officials involved in Peggy’s situation, too, so my assumption was that it was handled off-camera and nothing was said at somebody’s request (or demand). I don’t think it would’ve been appropriate or effective to jail her.

That was Peggy, too, with the daughter Ruth who was letting her bunk on her couch. Peggy slapped at Ruth's dog (she wasn't close at all) (and I hate dogs but that made me wince and then the carcasses OMG). I don't really understand what Ruth's motivation was. She didn't SEEM like she had Stockholm syndrome or was a pleaser. She really seemed like a caring, forgiving person. But I am also quite certain she wanted her house and couch back.

Confession: I’m not a hoarder (far from it), but many of the behaviors the hoarders display are me, and I feel ashamed. I was also able to identify something I do to myself I’ve struggled with all my life (ruminating and obsessive thoughts) and then was able to find ways to cope. I saw a glimpse of myself in Connie (the one with the two teenage sons?) and Karen (the one who didn’t feel worthy to look at herself in the mirror?). This show is helping ME, a non-hoarder to see and identify the things I don’t like about myself and give me vocabulary so I can research and find tools to cope.

ITA with everyone who said the show threw Kevin under the bus. He TRIED to tell them not to go certain places. Why didn't someone clue in this might be more embarrassing than trash bags full of used adult diapers?

I’m giving this show one more episode before I break up with it. Light humor that wears very quickly, and says nothing worth listening to. It’s like an after-school special.

With respect, I really object to this. Morbidly obese people who are NOT lazy and who keep their homes clean, who work hard and love their children DO exist. They’re not all People of Walmart and Hoarders, so I’m really not sure why this was called out as its own sin.

I agree 110%. The sister had bathed in Eau de Bad Attitude before her appearance.

You know, I really felt bad for Roxann. Firstly, it had only been two months out from her grief, and only a few months out from having a baby. Helloooooo post-partum and then grieving the death of a mother with whom she had a very close relationship. I don't think forcing her to do that was appropriate, especially since she didn't (so far as I remember) have any actual CPS threats hovering over her (if I'm misremembering then I alter my position only slightly). Secondly, it seemed to me that the older sister was far too pushy. It looked to me like she was goading Roxann on purpose and that this was a familiar pattern of control. They weren't close, the sister didn't seem to have been close with the mother, and it seemed to me like the sister was just trying to look like a badass for the cameras. I don't blame Roxann for walking off, ESPECIALLY because Standolyn wanted to LEAVE THE BOOKS THERE in the interest of being efficient and Roxann wanted the same thing, but the sister was the one who insisted the books had to go first. The whole thing was mishandled. If Standolyn and the hoarder are on the same page (heh), WTF is the problem? And the boyfriend? OMG that was the matchup from hell. At the kitchen chair incident ("It's my only set; are you going to buy me new chairs?" "No."), he should've been tossed out on his ass. Lastly, no, her fabric hoard was no hoard at all. It could've fit in one medium tub. I don't think she was a hoarder at all. I think she needed grief counseling, possibly some post-partum counseling, and an organizer to help her get through the mom's stuff because the girl was clearly (physically) worn out and overwhelmed with zero support whatsoever.

No worries! :) Thank you.

Well, considering I didn't see that in THIS episode, I wouldn't know. (Sorry, I'm behind and I don't like being spoiled and I can read other episode threads if I want to be.) That aside, yes, the guy has infantilized Brian and is used to being the savior figure in his life. Which makes it all about HIM, and not Brian.

Me me me me me!!! When Brian covered her hand with his, and the camera flashed the look on Rebecca's face, i said to Mr. Mojeaux, "Did you see how green she got?"

I adore this show. I laugh like crazy and not only do the writers hang lanterns, they dress them up in flapper dresses. Okay, the dad, and I may be channeling my own daddy issues here, but you all can send a bill for therapy services. So Brian gets into this drug, saves the dad's life, can't tell him why, no problem. He gets a job with the FBI, can't tell him much, dad gets a little crankier, but he's a lawyer, right? Should be able to process, but his feelings are hurt, no problem. Brian's whole family has been threatened by Sands, not just the dad, if Brian says a word to ANYBODY, but meantime Brian's a double (triple? I've lost track) agent. Dad bugs the crap out of Brian for more information, Brian's feeling the pressure of his family's lives at stake, so dad goes away mad. THEN dad shows up and stomps his foot and says TELL ME NOW OR I WON'T LOVE YOU ANYMORE WAAAAAHHHHHH. (I have strong feelings.) The first couple of times, I was all, Brian, just walk him outside where there are no bugs, spill the beans. The man's smart he can help you!!!! Now, I'm all, take the asshat outside where there are no bugs and say, "I would love to tell you. I need your guidance and wisdom and strength. I NEED you to know because I need help. However, I am being watched and possibly bugged. If I tell you, it will get you and the rest of the family killed. You say you will suffer for the truth. Will you make the rest of the family suffer so you can have your precious truth? FOAD." I have lost faith in the father as a font of wisdom. If he's not telling you NOW, when he always told you before (Mr Lawyer Person Who Should Be Able To Get A Clue), he must have a good reason and making you butthurt is not it.