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If we’re going to project speculation on NYers, I’m going to say that NYers aren’t waiting around for a gold star when it hasn’t been earned and they prefer actually learning by doing the work instead of complaining and they wouldn’t jump every time a douche like Tanner told them to. So, really, I think Kate and NY will do just fine. ETA: Especially because living here involves a tougher skin and experience and knowing that a job is a job, a boss is a boss, you get what you bring to it and maybe if Simone had brought something besides expectations of others, she would’ve learned something. Fake compliments and niceties are the least of things, really, but I can see why that would be “vile” to someone likeSimone.

Oh I don’t think it’s better. I think it’s revolting. Edited because I just saw the Mod’s post

People aren’t blind to it. It’s that they believe Kate deserves it.

Agreed. Additionally, the reason why anyone wanted to have Otis and Maeve together romantically was due to the appreciation of their dynamics within a friendship. That they completely sidelined that friendship in S2, barely had them interact without animosity was a mistake, imo. I missed their relationship throughout the season and I felt frustrated and dragged around just so the show could play the will-they-won’t-they game. Shows too often prefer that game rather than actually writing for the couple and that’s why the quality and draw can peter off with those kinds of storylines. I hope the show decides to resolve things early on in S3 and we actually see them work through things as a romantic couple already. On another note, while I can appreciate Adam’s development and his want to change, I still find it very difficult to embrace the Adam/Eric relationship due to its origins. It’s part of a really dangerous and troubling trope when it comes to fictional portrayals romantic stories involving gay boys/men and I absolutely hated the Adam/Eric hookup last season. And while they kind of addressed the problem this season through Otis and while I appreciated that acknowledgement, it’s not enough and it’s possible it might never be for me. I certainly wasn’t fond of his grand romantic gesture, the end scene running to confess one’s love cliche. I hope their relationship is handled thoughtfully next season. an aside? Poor Rahim 😕

I’m going to say that anyone is superior to those who have a drunken alter ego they handily assert to take the blame/responsibility of their messy behavior. I’m going to say that anyone is superior to those who resort to violence and aggression against others who don’t volunteer to gleefully stroke their ego(or other parts). *Anyone*, including the “bitch”.

According to Kelly’s instastory, he was just getting over being sick.

I gotta say, the constant “it’s a reality show!”, “it’s all scripted!”, “these aren’t real jobs!” assertions always feel out of place on a message board discussing said reality shows. I think we’re all aware there are elements that are scripted and that there is always a false sense of reality being portrayed at most levels, but we’re also all still watching, still invested in the stories and the people, so those assertions always feel like deflections of the conversation at hand because really, they’re conversation stoppers. I mean, the real reason Kate didn’t report in to Capt Lee that she left was because he really isn’t her boss and the real reason she returned was because she was contracted to and she’d lose money if she didn’t(and I’d also bet she was promised/given something due to her near violent assault situation)and she obviously wasn’t really wandering the streets alone and production obviously put her up somewhere. But what’s the fun in pointing out the puppet strings, outside of some self-congratulatory moment? Just sit back and enjoy the show instead.

Kate is treated like garbage, Kate walk away from a hostile, drunken, and borderline violent situation where she was the target, none of the assholes suffer any consequences, Kate does not pull any favors with the Captain or anything of the like despite the fact that she should, and returns because Bravo, production, and money(as if Lee has any say on Kate’s hiring or firing lol). But sure, Kate’s just riding that privileged cloud.

I’m surprised he’s doing another one of these, as it seemed to bring the worst out in him. I follow him on IG and he really seems at his best out in nature, cooking with his dog. He’s the chill dude he professes to be on the show, but never is.

Thanks. And yeah, all three spouted similarly weighted garbage. “Put her in her place” just has that very special ring to it

Who said that Kate should be “put in her place”? It was Brian, Kevin, ot Ashton.

Agreed. It was obviously brewing and the scene was handled as tastefully as it could, but...he’s a kid, comparatively. He might be more mature than some of his peers, but that just makes him a mature teenager. Just because the narrative is focused on Eve’s awakening and empowerment, this still pings all the same icky factors as that of a midlife crisis dude, hooking up with the barely legal that just *gets him*. No idea if there will be a S2, but if there is, I’m hoping this will be an eye-opening and fun hookup that they can look back at fondly, but nothing more.

No, he only stopped when she punched him. He was completely unaware and uncaring about what he was doing and that there was another person involved in the act. He was focused only on getting to where he was going and didn’t care until he was forced off her. It doesn’t matter how other women acted in the past or how it’s portrayed as porn, every person is different and if Brendan cared to check in at all, he could’ve seen Chloe was choking/gagging and wanted him to stop forcing her head down. She should’ve used her teeth. Lol this isn’t about vilifying anyone and neither is the #MeToo movement. Men acting as if it’s women out to get them, maybe ought to examine their actions as to why they feel preemptively guilty. In this specific case, I doubt Chloe would bring any charges and if Brendan brought any in regards to Chloe’s defensive move, then Brendan would find campus life even less welcoming. The point of this story was for a a dude who got away with acting the douche in HS, realizing that acting the same way in college would get him nowhere fast.

The lady was drunk and if the dish got messed up in some way during her delivery, the Captain would understand the situation and would be the easiest to appease.

Also, I was introduced to Kaitlyn Dever in a movie called Short Term 12 (which also stars Brie Larson and Rami Malek, pre-Oscars). Dever was *fantastic* in it, the role is somewhat similar to her role here as “Marie”. It’s still available on Netflix, for anyone interested.

Captain Lee lost his son at the end of July. I’m almost positive that the season was filmed well before then.

Watching “The One Where Rachel Quits” when Joey is working at an Xmas tree lot and Phoebe makes it all about one of her many passing quirks. Honestly, Monica bringing home all those fire hazards and indulging Phoebe always leaves me irritated. But that’s probably because my nerves are already on edge from Phoebe screeching over the wood chipper. Aside from her being a vegetarian, the issues Phoebe attempts to ~stand for~ are always short lived and used for hyperbolic humor and a level of cute that never worked for me.

Off topic, but Dexter’s adoptive dad, Harry, was who always appeared to him and he was a cop, not a psycho. Harry tried to help Dexter make space for his murderous tendencies, while also maintaining a normal passing life.

Right. Lee wouldn’t turn into Sandy if he had Hannah as a chief stew, because Hannah isn’t the reason Sandy is a fame hungry micromanager with boundary issues. And that’s another thing. We see Sandy questioning Hannah’s passion for yachting and I gotta say, if you’ve turned to the reality show version of your “passion”, I’m not sure you’re in a position to question anyone else’s aptitude. I don’t think Sandy’s participation in the Below Deck franchise is any purer than Hannah’s. Im not saying that participants on these shows don’t have any interest or experience, but it’s clear that those who want a real career are usually not repeat offenders and those that want a reality show version stick around(if they’re invited back).

He’s such a delicate flower. I think when Kate’s there, she keeps him more in line and her snark in response to his temper tantrums is a helpful distraction. But Hannah is not Kate, she doesn’t handle him the way Kate does, and she responds more defensively, which also sets off Ben. I’m sure they threw a bunch of money at Ben to appear, but I hope this is his last BD season.

I’m a big fan of profiling shows, of crime procedurals, and Michael Sheen, so this should’ve been a winner for me. Unfortunately, it wasn’t. Frankly, after watching the pilot, the only reason I wanted to see another episode was Michael Sheen and since I think the inclusion of his character in future episodes will become a more obvious reach as the show progresses, that’s not very promising. I understand that’s the “unique” hook for this show, but as charismatic as I did find Sheen, I think this kind of hook might hamper the show if the rest of the show isn’t compelling enough. And that was my main problem. The energy of the show AND Tom Payne felt very off to me. There was this unearned frenetic pacing and in Payne’s performance, which hugely lacked in the charisma department. Like when Bright gives his emotional confessional about who his father is, it felt rushed and like it shouldn’t have happened just yet. Payne plays up tics with his face and hands and his body, but it’s very affected, and I wish it played smoother. I kept wanting more of a Spencer Reid energy, awkward and intelligent and obviously traumatized. Payne’s Bright was too exaggerated to me and came off forced. Speaking of trauma, a young child is allowed to have Starling/Lecter-like interview sessions with his serial killer dad? I get it once Bright was older, but I wondered how and where that was permitted when he was still a child. There were some super close camera moments, it was overly scored to the point of it sounding like a bad horror movie, and by the end of the episode, Bright actually calls himself “Prodigal Son” out loud, but it’s a pilot and most pilots are a mess. Maybe it’ll find it’s footing and charisma as it settles in. Like I said, I want to come back for Sheen, but I hope I’ll want to come back for the rest of the show in the future. I mean, Lou Diamond Phillips is right there!

Anastasia didn’t earn any eyerolls her first meals either. I’m giving Ben a little leeway since he arrived with barely any time to plan or even familiarize himself with the galley