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Dabb said the Winchester realize that they were in for an existential crisis when they realize they were doing it Chucks way. And that reclaiming agency was a big part of the season. If the whole of last season was reclaiming agency, then it doesn't make sense that they would have to do it again this season. He said at comic con they werer supposed to argue over whether it was them or God. But Dabb said a lot of stuff at comic con last year that didn't play out. From what he said than and this interview is a complete 180. So my guess is that the brothers argue over it it one and Chuck confirms it was all him in two. Dabb isn't subtle. He doesn't know how to actually tell a story without giving away everything upfront.

I remember a story Jensen told at a con. He said Dabb asked them for a list of people they'd like to see back. Jensen made a list and then said what was the point since Dabb does what he wants anyway. My guess is that they figured it would just be a waste of their time.

I wouldn't put it past Dabb to have all the resurrected monsters kill all the people they saved in the past. Why not completely erase Sam and Dean's legacy? I wold really dislike if they went this route and said that all Sam and Dean's skills came from Chuck. Because it would keystone cops. Plus even if Chuck made all the decisions, Sam and Dean still read the books, learned the lore, and learned how to handle weapons. There is no believeable reason why they'd suddenly be incompetent, especially since the Waywards picked up a gun and were instant marksmen.

https://tvline.com/gallery/fall-tv-2019-season-premiere-spoilers/young-sheldon-fall-tv-preview-2019/ Bolding mine So much for the was it us or God debate. In typical Dabb fashion, he spoils it. Not only that but if God has been manipulating everything since the beginning, it renders the entire series pointless since we've been watching Chuck's story, not Sam and Dean's. How I loath Dabb. Also it sounds like Dabb either thinks five minutes in "the near future" or Jack is a sent by Billie to spy on Dean or Dean's feeling guilt and having hallucinations. If Dean is feeling guilty than him being mad at Cas makes no sense since that means he's more upset about Jack then Mary. It also sounds like every guest star we encounter will probably not survive the episode. If they are doing that can all the waywards be killed off screen please. Did I mention I loath Dabb.

Other than Ruth posting a few instastories, I've seen nothing.

I don't think there is anything to spoil. I don't think they planned anything other than Jack and guest stars. They've already spoiled most of the guest stars. Last week, apparently, Jared and Jensen only filmed Monday and Tuesday, so how much of episode 3 will they actually be in. It seems more Rowena focused. I guess she needs her closure.

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I am excited to watch the ep Jensen directed. I hope they gave him a challenging script.

I've always said that underneath all the shiny wrapping of the so-called brotherly bond it was pretty empty. IMO, Sam and Dean may love each other, but I don't think they really like each other all that much. Because when one loses a filter they don't have anything nice to say to each other.

I've always felt the tell never matches the show. Sam is the brother way more emotionally closed off, and he's just as clingy (but its presented as a beautiful brother moment when its Sam). Sam is only empathetic when it somehow reminds him of himself or it benefits him. I've always felt, Sam needs Dean but doesn't really want him. Dean wants Sam but doesn't really need him.

I disagree because Sam chose Ruby the very first night Dean came back. He repeatedly chose Ruby that entire season. If Sam resented Dean becasue he felt like a failure that is on Sam. It goes to one of my biggest complaints. His excuses. He always has a reason why its never his fault. "It's my fault because you made me do it in the first place." Sam doesn't get a free pass for everything he did while souless. Because everything souless Sam did, I can name an equivalent that real Sam didi. Because we're told its not really that big a deal and you just ask yourself "What would Mr. Rogers do." Souless Sam was asking "What would real Sam do." His instinct was to basically ignore Dean for an entire year. (I also remember fandom reaction when we first got the spoilers for that season and we didn't know Sam was souless and they said that Sam wans't going to tell Dean he was back. Again, I remember the reaction being "Sam is a great brother, noble and sacrificing. So it seems a lot of Sam's own fans have no problem beliving he'd leave Dean. " Plus, we saw that Dean had to point out to Sam that when Sam left he left Dean too. That didn't even occur to him. All his happy memories were being away from Dean. Even if he didn't pick those memories, he didn't deny they were his happy times. There was also the cross road demons who accused Sam of being a tiny bit glad when Dean was gone, during bed time stories. This is when Sam got mad and just shot her. Almost like she struck a nerve. Sam did resent both both Benny and Cas. "Who are you going to turn too, another Angel another vampire.?" Were the exact words that left Sam's mouth. Dean didn't turn to them because he distrusted Sam. Cas rescused him, becasue he was ordered too, and if Dean didn't turn to Benny he'd still be in purgatory. I never said he didn't try to save Dean, but did he do it because he wanted him back or because he felt guilty. They aren't the same thing. So I strongly disagree that this was a thing only under Carver. I disagree Dean faced no consequences. Just because they weren't world ending consequences doesn't mean they're weren't consequences. Dean ended up getting disowned by the person he loved the most. He ended up taking the mark and ultimately ended up getting killed and turning into a demon. I'd say there were consequences. Demon Dean not really doing anything was more of a product of the show runners lack of interest in developing the story. As for Gadreel, I'll give you that WTF? moment but I'm more talking about the brothers relationship and how Sam treats Dean. Rather than the larger story. I felt Kevin was more neutral. More like, "both of you knock it off." It wasn't Sam Kevin told to stop having a pity for. Because the writes of the ep believed everything that came out of Sam's mouth. They even tweeted it. "Sam was coming from a place of honesty. " I remember the reaction, in the fandom being overwhelmingly positive in Sam's favor, and how it was great that Sam finally stood up to Dean and told him off. Reviewers and bloggers, and tumblr metas took Sam's side in that argument and not by a small margin, so IMO, I felt the writers had Sam speak his mind. If we were supposed to side with Dean, he would have been given a voice. Because Sam treated Dean like crap in both season 4 and season 8 and both times the narrative made Dean prove his loyalty to Sam. Sam even go this own way with Benny when he faced zero on screen consequences. He even won when he demanded Dean cut him out. So no, I don't think Carver through Sam under the bus, I think Jensen's ability to rise above the writing was the only thing that saved the character. So I think it was Dean that got left to be run over buy the bus, but Jensen pulled out a miracle, before it hit him.

It might be more unpopular opinion but I've never felt that Sam fared that badly under Carver. Because I can believe Sam wouldn't look for Dean. He was content not to tell Dean he was alive after he came back soulless. (As we've seen soulless people are capable of making decisions) and Sam seems to move on pretty easily after Dean leaves and seems to find a replacement easily. He told Dean Ruby said all the same things Dean did and he had to go to Ruy to get away from Dean. Amelia. Plus, both times Sam almost seemed to resent Dean coming back. Also when Sam was patting himself on the back and deciding he was ready to die, he didn't give a crap that he'd be "leaving Dean out there alone." So I can fully believe he'd move on. I think him not looking was very much in character if you (general you) look past the shiny wrapping of so called BM's. Plus, IMO, the narrative plainly sided with Sam.* Caver called Sam mature, and Singer said Dean was being mean. Plus, Sam's actions in the whole Benny debacle were never mentioned. Sam faced zero consequences for his actions on screen. He even got rewarded for them when Dean cut out Benny. The text message was brought up more than once, plus, canonically, the the writers used Charlie as a mouthpiece to say Dean ruined Sam's life. The trial were given to Sam, with a "I'm stronger than you speech" that was wrapped up in a shiny bow, with Dean once again ultimately, having to prove his loyalty to Sam and grovel and promise to put him first. Then there was more manipulative writing 101. When they had Dean list the times Sam betrayed him, they made sure to list souless Sam, so it sounded like Dean was blaming him for things that weren't his fault. That was where the focus was emphasized so the other legitmate things Dean is saying are ignored to make him the bad guy. (This isn't just a carver thing, its something all show runners have used but that's another post.). Then Dean was made to trick Sam into possession, basically getting him labelled as a nasty word. Then Sam was allowed to hang onto his anger when Dean found out. There was the purge speech, which the writers of that episode specifically said, "Sam was coming from a place of honesty." The only thing retracted was Sam not saving Dean. Because Dean says, "I thought you wouldn't save me." Sam says "I lied," So it sounds like Sam believe everything else he said about Dean. That wasn't the first time said Dean was weak and a coward. IMO, Dean only came across as sympatheic because of Jensen being able to spin straw into gold. If I wanted to throw a character under a bus, that wouldn't be how I would write them. That's how I would spin it to show they were ultimately right. *This is just my interpretation of evens. I'm aware others don't share them. So my impression of Sam is that Sam needs Dean and resents him for it. He doesn't really want him. Dean seems to be what Sam wants when he has no one else. 0

I think Chuck is Chuck. Because to make him something/someone else would require effort and thought. It seems the only effort Dabb is putting into this season is squeezing as many guest stars in as possible.

Unless I'm mixing up set reports (entirely possible). It seems episode 2 is going to have Dean, Sam, Cas, Jack, Amara, Rowena ,Ketch, unknown season 7 guest star, and Chuck* These writer aren't good at telling one story let alone 9 of them. This is exactly the one thing I didn't want from this season. Guest star, after guest star after guest star, with no actual story. *I'm not sure Chuck has been seen on set but with the high probability of the guest star being Becky, and Amara there it makes sense that Rob will also be in this episode.

There was a spoiler that said the person wasn't acting anymore. Both Kevin McNally, and James Patrick Stuart are currently on a series but Emily Perkins hasn't worked since in about the last five years. I'm guessing Becky.

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I don't know the original source. I'm posting this here because I don't know if the chains Jensen and Jared are wearing are spoilers/signifcant.

It's good to see Jensen and David filming together. But do we really need Jack there? I'm so tired of this character and the season hasn't even started.

Jensen's 180, makes me question whether he truly came around or he got his hand slapped for saying it in the first place.

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https://clockworkshadowblog.com/jensen-ackles-redhood/ Great article and some new photos. I love this Now, excuse me, I need some ice.

Watch with sound. LMAO.