Special K

The word "brat" refers to someone who behaves badly, with a strong connotation of childishness/immaturity and self-centeredness. So what we're really saying is, "you're acting like a child." Given that, here is a list of people exhibiting bratty behavior from these 2 episodes alone: Baylor Missy Reed Jon Jaclyn ETA: Now that I think about it, Baylor was maybe the least bratty among this august list.

I think we might see Jeremy back in another season. Which would be fine with me.

You must have a hard time reading these forums, then. :) I think Reed let his frustration at the fact that his entire game was dying get the best of him, and the entitled/annoying attitude of Baylor became the object of that frustration. My friends and I will tell each other, "stop being a brat," or "sorry for being such a brat just then." I guess I don't see it as such a huge insult as Missy does. Also, saying a young woman is acting like a brat to her face is not *necessarily* an indictment of her mother's parenting style, in the same way it would be if it was said about a toddler behaving badly in a public space. But I guess if you have a co-dependent, dysfunctional mother/daughter relationship, anything said to your daughter is also about you. Come to think of it, Missy IS a brat, too! Flipping the bird, while prancing off arm-in-arm with her daughter was a nice demonstration of that. Reed did at least have the self-awareness to regret his actions and feel ashamed of them. Between Missy/Baylor, Alec/Drew's sibling rivalry, and Jon/Jaclyn's fight, this show could be used in a Psychology 101 class to demonstrate dysfunctional relationships. As Jon and Jaclyn were fighting and demonstrating the most cliched, immature relationship dynamics (#silenttreatment, really producers?!) I was thinking that maybe Burnett/Probst cast young people not ONLY because they have firm bodies, but also because their ability to navigate social dynamics is still unformed by experience, neurological development, and just general psychological maturity.

Forgot to say: I laughed with glee at the preview of Missy weeping, and the possibility of a med-evac of her. I know, I'm a horrible person. But it's just so nice to see the arrogant brought low. I think the editors know that, and that's why I'm hoping for a big catharsis when Jon gets voted out.* I may need a cigarette after that. *Not a spoiler, just a fond hope.

Jon is the George W. Bush of Survivor: I get to take credit for everything that happens. Whatever I say is the truth. I don't need to consider information from the outside world. I am the decider. And on a petty level, his face looks to me like a cartoon version of a handsome man. I mean, you know, when they want to make the handsome guy look like an arrogant, egotistical jerk. How touching that your dying father spent the time to teach you how to be such a pretentious ass.

The way these bozos behave in TC makes me nostalgic for Tarzan's "the game is afoot." What a great brush off to Jeff's intrusive questions! Or Boston Rob. Say what you will about him, but he was (or became) a master at artfully and charmingly deflecting JP's questions.

This is what amazes me about Survivor, as it is so often played. People scramble at the beginning to get into an alliance before they really know anything about anyone. Sometimes it works out, but more often it's a hot mess. And sometimes you get stuck there, with no place to go.

Right? The best-est is when he spits as punctuation during a talking head. I wonder if the producers ask for that special?

I thought what Wes said was that "God doesn't make mistakes." Of course, those who think homosexuality is a sin think it is just that, a sin, and not something in how God made you. Wes seemed to be embracing the "born this way" idea vs. the notion of a "lifestyle choice." TBH, I don't think Wes really thinks that much about things like this, and is just happy to be in, and contribute to, friendly company. Josh persisting in calling Wes a redneck in light of this conversation didn't show him (Josh) in a very good light. Plus, you'd think that being a broadway performer was like being another (advanced) species or something. Maybe I've lived in NYC too long for such nonsense. What is it about the magic of Ponderosa that makes me like people so much better once they get there? Wes seemed sweet, kind, and (gasp) even attractive. Another guy (like Jeremy) who didn't show off what now looks to be a banging body. And he totally won me over by gaining 11 pounds in 8 hours!

SO: We have two terrific, strategic, physically strong, and smart players, and they are each aligned with an untrustworthy idiot: Reed - Keith Natalie - Baylor This will either cause me great despair or high amusement (or both!).

I think the young man who spoke at length was identified as the Director of Education at Plimouth Plantation, and the woman who said that lobster was used for bait had a title related to food education at Plimouth Plantation. The white guy identified as the Director of Plimouth Plantation said something like, "We've had many 17th century meals here, but nothing anywhere near this good." So it seems as if they re-enact Thanksgiving for educational purposes all the time.

Another great part of that interview:

But at the point that Alec made that comment, hadn't Julie already been sneaking off to eat it in secret? Or was that just editing messing with the sequence of events? It was certainly shown that way, along with a talking head of hers saying that she was keeping it for herself. Or am I remembering it wrong?

Or even more so, Mike White, the guy who wrote "Enlightened," at Probst's house. My brain might break.

When Jon came back from Exile Island and hugged Jaclyn, she said something like, "I was so worried about you out there." She didn't overdo it, but she did say it. Jeff didn't ask her to elaborate, he didn't milk the moment, and the editors didn't make a point to underscore it. It just happened. So, yeah, the TPTB definitely prefer to draw attention to times when the women (or other weaklings*) are at risk. *sarcasm

Yes, soy sauce is to avoided by those with celiac.

Michael Schlow FTW!! Oh, wait....

For someone with true celiac, even vinegar is a problem -- most vinegar (not balsamic, I think) uses grain gluten in its production. It's not just avoiding bagels and pasta.

These are the only challenges I can play along with at home. I like them! They are also the only ones I would probably ever have a prayer at! Or for being a cop. Or a mom. I know a lot of preacher's kids and they are, as a group, a pretty raunchy lot. Second only to actual preachers. I kid you not.

I agree that Missy got it all wrong -- the burping and spitting isn't the problem (though why Keith has to spit so much, assuming he is not actually chewing tobacco, is beyond me). No, it's (a few of) the men treating the women like they're their slaves, or definitely second-class citizens. Like: You may now throw my nasty fish-guts trash out. You girls need to watch the fire. Jaclyn will do whatever Jon says. I actually don't think complaining about Baylor's work ethic falls into this category at all. There are always Survivors who are vilified as lazy and they are as likely to be men as women. Hell, it's even a strategy for some of them not to expend unnecessary energy! Missy really is the worst kind of woman -- she wants respect and deference as if she was a fully realized post-feminist woman, making her own way and knowing her own mind, but she also wants to be treated like a cherished princess, to be shielded from the harsh realities of life, like it was still the 1950s or something. What does she even do for a living? What do any of these people do for a living? Other than the firefighters and the broadway guys, I don't even know!

Can I just say that this forum is great: Jerks Inc. The Neanderthals. Chuckleheads. I'm loving all the names you guys have for those misogynistic losers out there. Alec's most ridiculous moment was when, after bossing around Baylor, he said something like this, all puffed up, "Yeah, she's not ready to play with the big boys yet." Hahahaha! He's like the weeniest, most junior-high-acting "adult" male I've seen in a long time. Big boy indeed. And can I say that I kind of hate the plastic rainbow rosary? If I was a Catholic, I might actually be offended. J&J are going up in my estimation. They seem able to balance emotion and strategy in ways that are working so far. Beyond them, I'm rooting for Natalie and Jeremy. Having said that, I was sad for Josh. He clearly loved being out there. And agree that Reed gets better looking every single episode. Good lord, those eyes! If they do it'll be interesting since they have played basically the entire game as "singles" -- their loved ones were the first two out. It could show how having a loved one is a liability (either to your own game play or the way others perceive you).

Perhaps that's what she had in mind, or at least part of her thinking. After all, her alliance includes two people (Jeremy and Nathalie) who verbally attacked Her Boyfriend John.

Oh, I meant Tyson's video, not Troyzan's!! In Tyson's he's standing outside of a 7-11 at night getting everyone who comes by (his friends but also some strangers, and the guy behind the counter) to talk about how great and unusual he is. It was such a non-audition audition.

I meant bananas in the best possible way! :)

OMG, following that link, letshave, I watched Tyson's audition. It's under "Survivor Contestant Videos" and it's in the second row on the right (not clearly labeled as his). It's totally bananas!