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LOL The food that the Lannisters stole from the Reach you mean? After they had butchered hundreds or thousands of men in Highgarden and wiped the whole Tyrell family out. So she's wrong to use her dragons? Is Jon wrong to use a direwolf or a sword? Maybe instead of fighting they can have a dance fight. She would be stupid not to use dragons in battle or to keep people in check. Guess who wishes he had a dragon or three to fight the wildlings?? Wonder what he would use dragons for there? Free rides? "We should have twenty trebuchets, not two, and they should be mounted on sledges and turntables so we could move them. It was a futile thought. He might as well wish for another thousand men, and maybe a dragon or three." Sansa isn't power hungry? The woman whose calling for Independence during the apocalypse, Or the woman who didn't inform her brother that the Knights of the Vale might be coming. How many Northerns and Wildlings died for that? Ned Stark was her father but Littlefinger was her daddy and made her his creature. Whos the better alternative? Jon. The man who was killed by his own men? Or the man who couldn't rally any Northern Houses to his cause? Or the man whose own men actively plotted against him the minute he left Winterfell? He doesn't want it and I know people will bring up that tired trope of the best leader is one who doesn't seek power. Guess who didn't want to be King? Was a charismatic leader and war hero? Robert Baratheon and wasn't his rule a shining example for everyone.
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If this is an attempt at a Mad Queen turn for Dany I'm not buying it all. You can try but she's been completely right about everything since landing in Westeros with the exception of believing in WW. Everytime she's listened to someone else she's suffered a defeat or lost someone dear to her. Jon Snow proves how utter incompetent he would be as King. There was a reason Ned didn't say anything idiot. I did get the feeling that was the last time he's going to see WF. Oh and fuck him for not even petting Ghost. Sansa continues to be horribly self centered. Jon trusts her with a secret and she breaks that trust almost immediately. Another thing Dany was right about btw. She's not Littlefinger but Littlebird now the transformation is complete. Jaime loves Brienne but is a monster and knows it. He's left to save her and kill Cersei.. hopefully. Like all of the episodes this season it feels super rushed and is very disappointing. After two years this the best they have?
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They cut Jaehaerys the second from the show. So it jumps from Aegon the fifth to Aerys the second. Guessing show wise that makes Duncan and Aerys brothers.
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One of the best episodes of the series. Not perfect though. Jon has accepted his Targ heritage too quick imo. Don't buy it and feels like they've ignored some tough questions. Arya/Gendry was awkward, don't know if that's what they were going for or not. Loved Jaime's trial. Brienne standing up for him. And Bran using Jaime's own words "The things we do for love" to explain and help him . Glad they didn't give Dany amnesia concerning Aerys. Sansa and Dany was really good. Nice they were both shown as focusing on the politics of what happens after. Jorah is so dead, just should have him said it's his last day on the job. Don't know which one but either Missendai or Greyworm is dead sorry guys no planning for the future. Podrick was praised by Brienne and he got to sing? Yeah he's dead too. Even Northern kids are racists, hope the survivors all have to marry Dothraki. Screw Sam for trying that again, loved Jon wasn't having any of it. Knight of the Seven Kingdoms..what a title. Ser Duncan's family (Brienne) gets knighted by Jaime who sung his praises. And then Jenny's Song about a Targ prince giving up his crown. A Targ prince named after Ser Duncan.
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Say what you want about the Lannisters but at least their men and army is loyal. Last season they stood strong against the Dothraki and a dragon. And were preparing to march North. The Northerners on the other hand run home the minute someone does something they don't like. It's not new, remember the GreatJon being a whiner with Robb?
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Technically it's supposed to be by bloodline. But there's been multiple times of people ignoring that. Maegor killed his nephews, the Dance of Dragons, Aegon the Unlikely being crowned over his older brother's son. What makes the Jon and Dany situation complicated is a few things. No proof of who Jon is, Aerys supposedly disinherited Rhaegar and Rhaella crowned Viserys on Dragonstone which makes Dany the "rightful" heir. Of course none this matters because marriage and the baby she's carrying solves all the problems.
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Completely agree. I wonder what would happen if a Frey came North demanding justice. They basically did the exact thing the Tarlys did. But the deaths of Freys were justified because Arya did it? Dany gave both Tarlys multiple choices to live, it's hard to feel bad for people who chose death.
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This times a thousand. Dany had zero reason to go WF to save Sansa or the xenophobic people she rules. It's not like the North has any value. And Sansa acts like it's Cersei coming to visit. Which is funny since Sansa is acting exactly like the woman she hates. Who gives a shit if Jon bent the knee for love, Sansa doesn't know Dany is "barren". She should be suggesting a marriage between them. Her brother becomes consort and her future nephew or niece rules the seven kingdoms. Funniest part will be once she finds out about Jon, she's going to look like a huge hypocrite. Pushing his "claim" to rule.
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I really don't know what to think of the episode. Sansa and the Northerners seemed especially stupid. The AOTD is coming but let's bitch about Jon's crown and throw shade at the lady who came to help. Sam tells Olly to get over it when his family who he actually loved is killed. But I guess those rules don't apply to himself. And man did he tell Jon about his parents in such a shitty way. It wasn't even about him just screwing Dany over. Dragonlord Jon was great fanservice but the setup to it was terrible. Oh and they're totally living out their lives near that waterfall. People are going to think they're dead but nope.
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I think that's going to be part of the bittersweet ending, none of those things will happen because the realm will be devastated. Nobody is going to want wide sweeping changes or some kind of election system when they're starving or being over run by bandits. People will want a strong leader with a powerful name leading them, so they'll be forced to continue the system that's been in place for hundreds of years. If any changes were to be made, it would be more of an absolute style rule, where the great houses/wardens powers are limited. Sort of how the Tudors did after the War of the Roses.
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Season 8: Speculation and Spoilers Discussion
MadMouse replied to Eyes High's topic in Game Of Thrones
Humanity at it's worst has always been the main villain of the series, butchering each other while a threat to everyone is ignored. It makes sense that after all these people set aside their mutual hatred/distrust and fought a common enemy that the last villain would be someone who couldn't see past their own selfish desires. -
If it caused harm to his family or a pregnant Dany? Yeah I could see him doing that, he was going to beat Ramsay to death for Rickon's death so some of that book Jon temper is there. And Cersei having a miscarriage in S7 or 8 wouldn't matter, since Tyrion would have no idea. Its not like she would send him a raven about it. Do I think it'll happen not really but if it did I wouldn't be shocked either.
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You're right about white washed Tyrion and him being basically a white knight. When I say betrayal it won't be malicious on his part or hell even about them but about saving Jaime's kid, his niece or nephew. Maybe it leads do someone getting hurt, killed or them losing a battle against the GC. And that alongside his other questionable decisions will make him look like a traitor. I'll be the first one to admit I'm biased towards this because I expect him to die in the books at hands of Jon Snow.
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She's already questioning his advice, his talk about naming an heir, not revealing Cersei pregnancy, his guilt and love for Tommen and Myrcella ,whatever issues he has with boatsex, Cersei's double cross. The groundwork is all there really.
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I don't think Tyrion betraying Jon and Dany is that crazy of an idea. There's a good chance he will in the books for different reasons of course. Book Tyrion wants to wipe his family out, show Tyrion doesn't. I don't believe it will be out of malice but a "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" type deal. And it will be about protecting Cersei's unborn child.