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Their dinner together off the boat occurred before the entree fight night.

It's a not direct reporting relationship, Hannah & Ben are peers. In that situation, they could easily be both co-workers and friends. Ben said he was paranoid Hannah would try to roll him under the bus for dinnergate, so he put on the white shirt and went immediately to Captain tattling. That's not even good co-worker behavior, let alone how you treat someone you've gone to dinner with, flirted with, and hugged. They talked it out, Hannah reassured him that she wouldn't do the same but instead would come to him directly with any issues. Less than week later, she does just that, trying to talk about the situation with Danny in the galley and Ben is dismissive, seemingly takes Danny's side and laughs when he's rude as hell. Hannah was forced to have that conversation with Ben, because his actions certainly didn't match his earlier words. Too bad Hannah didn't watch the previous seasons, Ben's MO is to befriend the lowliest stew/deckhand/whatever to cause drama/get camera-time. Danny is just the new Rocky/Sam/etc.

The last 10 min of Luann was worth the price of admission. That's the way to do ot, plan your own trip and give the shrews a taste of their own medicine. Better yet, go to Florida while Bethany's in the hospital.

40 min in and no Luann or Sonja? Yeah, not cool. Not the show I want watch nor the people who interest me. Carole needs to worry about herself. I don't know how any one can notice Jules being too thin while Carole's skeletor ass is in the room. The way she went at Jules was bullshit. Go eat Bethany's crumbs, you insipid twit.

Hannah didn't ask Ben to date her. Rather, she was upset that he had gone to captain when she thought they were friends. She then asked Ben whether he wanted to be considered a friend or a co-worker. He chose co-worker and that upset her. Understandably so, imo. Ben's shown his ass for a couple seasons now. He likes the drama and tends fan the flames. Makes for good tv though! Bryan is such an ass. I hope that he learns something from watching himself.

Is Ashley no longer on the show? Messed up relationship and all, I found her to having a calming influence on the group. Not sure I'm ready for the 3rd sister/cousin to start a war with the wives.

Loved the episode. Admire her life. More importantly, her attitude about life. It was interesting to hear from member of her family and long-time friends. Interesting articles about her, that came out yesterday: http://www.people.com/article/real-housewives-new-york-luann-de-lesseps-before-they-were-housewives-exclusive?xid=socialflow_twitter_peoplemag http://www.vulture.com/2016/06/countess-luann-real-housewives-bethenny-berlusconi.html?mid=twitter_vulture

Landon's friend...comes to the party with her beloved Shep and outs her for banging Thomas. Hee.

She was married to count for 16 years and they had 2 children, by most accounts that would be the love of her life. In the recent episode she mentioned how happy and surprised she was to have found 2nd love. I found the 10 min of the special quite interesting. There was a lot I didn't know. Luann has led a very interesting life. I will watch the full episode and I'd be cool with similar specials on the other housewives.

I love that this show is back and that they found even nuttier peeps. Pass the popcorn, please.

People are flawed and say stupid shit all the time. I look back on some of the things I said in my teens and 20s and are horrified. Without knowing the context of when or how how she said it makes it difficult to determine the intent. I did appreciate that she owned up to it and seemed bothered by Dorothy's pain at hearing it. Dorothy has to decide whether she keeps her friendship with Morgan. For me, the comments she made in the talking head regarding Dorothy's weight were worse, in that they were purposely meant to be hurtful. That said, Bianca's motives for revealing that nugget should certainly be called into question. She called Dorothy jealous and delusional to her face, stormed out of Dorothy's birthday party, yet she's purportedly is the one who has her back? Thankfully, her mask slipped a lot after the Morgan confrontation and I think Dorothy saw her true colors pretty clearly. Another one in the won't watch EJ camp. I find him annoyingly overdramatic in a way that's not entertaining.

They had 5 boys in one bedroom using a king sized bed and a couple of army type cots. Definitely look temporary to me. I don't understand people who prefer baths. Maybe it wouldn't be awful with one of those handheld showers to wash your hair but really, who has the time to sit there and lounge?

Isn't that the second time this season that Bethany & Carole acted like fools while invited guests? Maybe someone should all them out on their behavior. More and more the exclusion of Sonja & the attempt to ice out Luann screams of co-worker gamesmanship over the rumored contract negotiations. Are they really trying to go on the season trip without them?

Wait, so now Bethany & Carole ridicule Luann for being civil and displaying some manners while a guest in someone's home? Meanwhile the rude ass bitches try to sneak out without even saying goodbye, after ruining the party to begin with? ...and they think they're the arbiters of dood taste and in a position to judge and chastise Luann? They can suck it. They're both petty jealous shrews. Ramona had some nerve. If anyone demands attention, it's her. I can think of a number of events/dinners where's she's made a scene and/or stormed out.

Janelle's a piece of fucking trash. Way to emotionally manipulate a 6 year old. Why don't you tell him the real truth, that you'll always put your dick du jour first? Barb may not be perfect but she's there for Jace. I wish she'd called the cops on those two assholes for not bringing Jace back. Did Leah buy some Tori Spelling boobs?

The marathon is over? No, I want more!!!

As an extremely single, very successful woman in my 40s, I definitely don't see landing man as the key to success or something to applaud. However, when Bethany, Carole and even Ramona continually call/treat Luann like a huge whore, I do find humor in the fact she's now in a serious relationship with someone the others would deem quite successful. Bottom line, dating "dozens of men" or engaged to one, Luann is happy, and I think that's the root of their disdain. Bethany especially needs to work out why where all her anger is coming from. It's not healthy and I feel really bad for those close to her.

So true. What's worse is that Luann wasn't shading Carole with that comment. She was truly surprised that Carole viewed Adam as any more than a fuckboy considering their age/position in life differences. She said as much to her. In Luann's eyes, he wasn't someone she would date seriously. Whereas Carole's comments were purposely meant to be catty/slut shame Luann. Which I find super amusing seeing as Luann now has that 8 carat ring on her finger while Carole waits for Bethany to call...

Carole's comment to Ramona about how Luann wasn't really dating Tom (implying they were just banging) is a bit a comical seeing as they got engaged a couple months later. It's not like Carole had even met Tom at that point. Further, she was talking about someone who was married for 15+ years and in at least one other longer term relationship. I don't like when women shade other relationships, it just makes them look petty and jealous. Carole doesn't need any help in that area. Her "too cool for school" attitude is wearing thin. Plus, she was trying to slut shame, piggybacking on her BFF Bethany. Always lame, IMO.

It certainly sounds like Bethany & Luann spent time together over the Summer, so I understand why Luann is surprised by Bethany's reactions to her now that they're filming (Ramona's birthday party another example). If Bethany has decided that she doesn't like Luann for whatever reason, that's fine. However, the vitriol she spewed said way more about her and her unhappiness than it said about Luann. Especially considering the way she's gone at others this season. Totally over top and quite ugly. It was hard to watch. I applaud Luann for keeping her cool as much as she did. Other than the muttered piece of shit comment, she refrained from hitting Bethany below the belt and tried many times to diffuse the situation. How can anyone talk about potential eating disorder with Jules while skeletor Carole is around?

A sign you're losing an argument? You call someone a slut. Bethany lost her shit and It wasn't pretty.

Did David just imply, on camera, that Janelle should tighten her cooch?? ...and Adam didn't miss the dance for a competition but to practice for a competion? Then he made his 6 and 3 year old daughters sit through that competition. Egotistical asshat.

Jenna is ignorant trash. My favorite moment was Kailah telling her mom to hold on a minute while she gave a verbal beatdown to Jenna's friend. Then she goes back to the phone with "Hi, sorry mom" while her mom applauds her for the tirade. That, there, is a proud mom who knows she raised a strong daughter who speaks her mind and stands up to stupid ass people. Oh, and Kailah is also from the South. Hmmm, by Jenna's pea brain, shouldn't see have the same ignorant views? I felt Ceejai's pain. She wishes she had used her words rather her fists. It never feels good to lose your cool and resort to violence. But, I agree that MTV dropped the ball by not evicting Jenna the first time she ran at Ceejai. Damn,Jenna better be careful out there. It's one thing to be hateful racist in your head, it's another to broadcast your views on national TV. There are a lot of violent people out there who might use more than fists to prove their point. I thought that everyone who called/visited the Real World house signed a waiver agreeing to have the voice/likeness used on the show? So why was Jenna's friend blurred? IMO, her face should've been shown for all the world to see. If I were the producers, I would've subtitled her image with her full name and city.

They all have issues which is why I find it so annoying when any one of them tries to look down or judge someone else. Bethany & Ramona are queens of this. They both drink, they've both made romantic mistakes, they're both fucking crazy. Yet They somehow think they're above Luann & Sonya? Why? Pissed me off to see Dorinda kowtow to Bethany. I was happy that she told Carole to get over herself re: not wanting to sleep under the same roof as Luann. I thought Tom was cute. Is he now Luann's fiance?

Both Bryan and Tiffany have something going on with their mouths that I can't look away from. Thin lips? No chin? Jack-o-lantern smile? I can't put my finger on it. I think Ben purposefully goes choose to go for the 3rd vs. chief stew He sure was angry to find Tiffany in Bryan's bed! He has more chemistry with Hannah but knows what a shit show it would be because of their close working relationship. I like Julia, I like Bobby. Captain is cool. I take back the Danny is sweet comment, he's creepy. I get a feeling he has a stalking charge in his future.