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I thought of this too

And Joe, Julian and Barry are not also passionate about their jobs since we hardly see them at it, and Caitlin and Cisco has no job or life since they just live at starlabs.

I guess since her presence in starlabs is so annoying, spending few minutes per episode serving coffee to random strangers beats few minutes of her investigating what is going on in Central city, that will be so much fun to watch.

Nebula was a surprising sources of humor, the way she deadpans her lines were hilarious. "It's not ripe" and "get over it" were my favourites. I can't believe how much I love this character now. Wow, I didn't notice that, so touching.

This movie is so much fun, I think I love it more than the first one which was among my top three marvel movies. The thing I loved most about this is that the team felt so much like a family, it was believable and natural the way they fight and make up. I didn't just love the guardians, I also loved and enjoyed all supporting characters including Yandu's right-hand man. Lots of funny, heart-warming and heartbreaking moments. Peter was as awesome as always. Gamora and Nebula; I loved that Gunn explored there relationship more, Nebula broke my heart when she told Gamora that she jut wanted a sister. I liked Nebula in the first movie, but I loved her here. I'm glad she wasn't killed off, I hope she joins the team in volume 3. Rocket always pull at my heartstrings, I couldn't help simultaneously laughing at him and getting offended on his behalf with the names everyone kept calling him. I was touched when he shot Gamora and said he was not ready to loose two friends. Drax and Mantis were so entertaining, they make a good pair. Drax didn't get much to do this time around, but I enjoyed his character. I didn't love or hate Yandu in volume 1, but I came to care about him here and it broke my heart when he died. Ego was great, one of marvel's best villains. Russel killed it. even though he appeared mostly in human form, I never felt for once that he was human. He was so alien, even more so than green Gamora or drax. the way he just carelessly mentioned klling Peter's mom was chilling, like he couldn't comprehend why peter was upset. Great acting. Last but not the least, Groot. I looooove baby groot, I just want to steal him away from the guardians and keep him forever. He was so adorable. Funniest scenes for me were Groot dancing When Groot brought the severed toe, I almost died laughing. When the camera did a 360 degrees and Mantis get knocked down on her ass Drax wondering how Ego impregnated Peter's mom I am Mary Poppins y'all This movie is all around fun. Marvel is not easing up at all, they want to keep me their bitch forever. Bring in Spider-man: Homecoming.

This scene killed me, lmao

something else I don't like about this show, they just don't want Barry to be great, why can't Barry do things himself? I was excited when I heard that Barry defeated Savitar and lucked him up in the speed force, imagine my surprise 2 episodes ago to discover, he didn't even do it, that Tracy was the one to figure it out. this Barry have never built anything since season one, how are we to buy he will build Gideon and the Savitar suit in the future?

I'm glad you guys like it, I can't wait to watch it, I miss these a-holes.

I really feel for Candice, I don't know what she ever did to these writers. I don't care what anybody says, I believe the writers and the producers hate Candice. Nothing else makes sense, even the most plausible place to incorporate her journalism, they refuse to do so, a story line about her should have been used to give us her point of view more, but rather we were given Joe's point of view. Its so exhausting. What makes it worse is that you will see them bend over backwards to give Julian and HR storylines but will refuse to give Iris the bare minimum. Even this new character got more development than her in an episode, patty also had more scenes and focus for the 10 episodes she appear in. Its not that they don't know how to write her, they just don't want to. Yes I am going to go there, this goes beyond misogyny, this reeks of racism. Its almost like they were forced to hire her because they wanted a black Wally west. The show runner did admit that they made the wests black because of wally west. I also believe that someone higher up told them to leave westallen alone, if not, I don't even think she would have that. So they have to keep westallen but they can screw over Iris west. The thing about killing Iris west is that, Candice Will loose her job, its not easy for anyone in Hollywood, its especially worse for black women. She might find it hard to get a job as a regular on another show. If I was sure she would get a better job, I will pray for them to kill her and quit watching like I did with person of interest when Carter was killed off. Its not like this show is that great, I am just sticking it out for the actors I like and the family dynamic between Barry and the wests and of course westallen. I just hope something changes in season four, especially for Iris. For the main time I kind of enjoy this Barry is savitar twist, let's see how they resolve it.

You are right, but her riding on the ice is still cool to watch

Any show that incoperates time travel never makes much sense if you try to over think it, i just enjoy it for what it is. The show this savitar storyline reminds me of is misfits, season 2 and 3 particularly. There was a time loop about one of the main character dying and another character trying to prevent her death, it was beautiful, but was also tragic. I'm not worried for iris, I know she's not going to die. It might not make much sense how Barry would ever kill Iris, but this is an insane Barry we are talking about. Insanity is completely unpredictable. I've seen people on other boards question why iris death is something Barry could never get over since he already lost his mother and father. But that is the very reason this would be harder for him. Iris was there for him when he lost his mother, and her friendship with Barry must be the only reason Joe agreed to take Barry in. My head cannon is that she begged her father to since Joe was not a friend of the family. So because of iris, Barry had a home after he lost his parents. With Barry being in love with her already that love became magnified, and then last year he lost his father, coincidentally he just started dating iris so being with her helped him get over that. Iris has been a constant throughout these hard times, then iris dies, barely a year after his father's death, there is so much the human mind could take. I really don't blame Barry for going insane. Now if it was just a regular person, it wouldn't affect others much, but Barry is a guy with godlike powers, he is not ordinary, he has the ability to manipulate time. Its not surprising that an insane Barry without iris would become obsessed with power as others with greater power took his parents from him making him feel powerless. His obsession with power would then make him feel that he is a god, and shun anything (Iris) that would make him vulnerable and powerless again. So it kind of makes sense to me that an insane Barry could kill Iris to maintain his god complex, hence creating a paradox. Where he goes back in time to ensure iris dies and he gets created. Grant did a good job playing savitar, I can't wait for him to kill it more, he is a good actor.

Yes! I was right about savitar being Barry. I know some people guessed it, but I love how they pulled it off and sincerely, Barry being savitar was the most plausible outcome. Killer frost was badass, but I didn't buy it that Barry couldn't take her out easily, the same goes for Cisco. This episode was boring except for the last few minutes I don't blame Wally for not being there, I blame the writers. They obviously didn't want Wally there because it would be highly unconvincing that two speedsters couldn't catch killer frost, so they came up with this earth 3 stupid idea. Joe is a fool for dumping Cecil, but I like them together.

This episode have the best acting from Grant this season, maybe the whole series, the two Barrys scene in the time vault was great. Barry, wally, Cisco and joe broke my heart. I like Caitlin, but after seeing what killer frost did to Cisco, I don't want killer frost on this show, I hope they are able to bring Caitlin back and banish killer frost forever. The Caitlin/killer frost thing is tiring at this point Speaking of that, I'm also tired of the savitar stuff, can the show get to the reveal already and Barry defeating him. Thank God we are done with speedster villains for next season. Savitar has to be Barry, " I even made time remnants of myself and he killed them mostly". "Mostly" being the keyword here, one may still be left, who went mad and decided he is a god. Oh and Barry getting back from the future and just patting iris on the back after seeing that devastating future was bad directing choice, I don't see how Joe became a priority to comfort while iris is not yet dead, while the one who actually dies gets a pat on the back.

I get where you are coming from, its embarrassing the way this show has treated iris and Candice, but I believe that they are fully committed to westallen and won't drop it. I just hope that next season they can give Candice more to work with, she is a good actress and very charming. I was like Wtf with that, it made no sense for Barry's priority to be Joe after seeing that bleak future.

I am Marvel's bitch at this point, no shame in admitting that, so I was bound to watch this, but this trailer got me excited for the movie. This is going to be the best Thor movie. I loved Jane foster in the first two movie, but I'm also glad that she won't be in this one. I already like all the new characters, especially Hela and Valkyrie.

She dose, but the writers refuse to show her at her job and the same goes for everyone on this show. Albert also have a job but I don't see anyone asking about him being at his job. Barry and Joe are barely shown at the station, I don't even think we've seen him at his job for more than a few episodes this season. Except for this episode he was only at his job at the start of the season when Albert was introduced, once he joined team flash, all Barry, Joe and Albert scenes went back to starlabs. Starlabs is really bad for the characters developement. I hope that next season it will be done away with. Show Iris, Barry, Joe and everyone else at their jobs and contributing in their own way. This will especially help Barry as it will make him rely less on starlabs and make him a better hero that can think on his feet without anyone reminding him to run.

I don't get people's hate for Barry travelling to the future. Travelling to the past is not the same as travelling to the future, the former poses the danger of changing the present, the later in no way influences the present but rather prevents bad thing from happening in the future. And as we already know, iris was never meant to die, these evil speedsters are the ones changing the timeline willing. Barry is going to the future to prevent them from screwing with team flash future. The only ones his travelling to the future are going to potentially screw over is the villains. And seriously, this is a show about a speedster that can travel through time, do we really want to watch a show about a hero that can time travel but never dose it? That will be boring in my opinion. I get that Barry have messed up the timelines before, but not all time travelling is bad, as far as he doesn't change what have already taken place I don't see any harm there.

Intense episode, I loved it. First, kadabra was a good villain and savage, I hope we get to see more of him in the future. I liked Caitlin/Albert pairing, but after this episode I ship it, they are so good together, I hope it works out for them and they better don't kill Albert or Caitlin. Speaking if which, I am not worried about Caitlin, Danielle is not leaving the show, iris can't be the only female regular character on the show. I would rather they make Caitlin an anti hero than a straight up villain, let her struggle with her power and end up learning to control it or make her loose it, just don't turn her into a villain. Joe broke my heart in his scene with iris, and finally some iris/Joe scene! Love it. Cisco and Albert scene when Caitlin died was also very emotional. Overall a great episode, can't wait for the rest, hate that we have to wait a month for it.

You just made me like Mon-el and Kara/mon-el. I'll definitely check out Supergirl now. If I start from season two will it be easy for me to follow the story or do I have to start from one?

Re-watched the episode, the ending is even better on second viewing. While that song was beautiful, it was Grant and Candice's acting that elevated that scene. They looked so in love, the smiles, heart eyes, caresses, everything was so perfect, this is westallen best acted and directed scene. It was cheesy and perfect all at once, so beautiful, off to watch it again.

Ironically, for a musical Episode, the best part, was the non singing part, I loved HR helping Wally and the team up between Wally, Cisco and the martian hunter. They made a good team.

I cringed so much from secondhand embarrassment while watching this episode. I still can't makeup my mind on whether this was a good episode or a bad one. The acting and singing by Barry and kara was awkward in a bad way at the beginning of the episode. They were trying too hard to be funny that it didn't come across genuine to me, it felt forced. The episode only picked up for me when not-joe, not-stein and not-malcome came into the picture, their song was one of the two songs I enjoyed. The last song that Barry sang to iris was so beautiful and cheesey at the same time, but I loved it. That was a beautiful proposal. So I was right last week, the breakup was manufactured by the writers so this episode could happen, I still don't like the breakup but please writers now that the musical is over, can we move on now? And no more forced drama, please. Jeremy has the best voice of all the cast, its a shame that the episode did not do him justice, I never watched smash, but he was incredible in joyful with keke palmer, dolly and queen latifa

I don't watch Supergirl so I am also surprised to see this much hate for mon-el, this episode actually made me like the guy, he has nice chemistry with Kara and the actor is hot *shrugs*. I have always wanted to start the show, I might give it a shot when this season is over. The only thing discouraging me is Melissa, she is not a good actor IMO, maybe its the musical. I hope its better on her show. I will give her this, she have this innocence and optimism about her character that i love. kara reminds me so much of season one Barry.

I agree about Barry and Iris chemistry, its deep and totally goes beyond being comfortable with each other. Their chemistry screams, "something more". Barry has a beautiful chemistry with kara too, its just that his chemistry with her is the same kind he had with Felicity, platonic chemistry. I can actually buy them as best friends more than Barry's friendship with Cisco and Caitlin. It didnt feel out of place with both telling each other about their love lives. Kara is basically female Barry, that's why they come across to me as friends and nothing more.

That's a nice theory. I actually would love savitar to be barry, I think Grant will play the hell out of that role, he's good at playing the bad guy. His bitch face when Wally was accusing Barry of having ulterior motive for asking iris to marry him was priceless.