S05.E09: Middle Child Syndrome

[OnceSane]

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Mother-daughter bonding finds Kim and 14-year-old Ariana taking in a day of pampering, chimichangas and, as Kim discovers, quite a bit of teen angst. Meanwhile, Brielle prepares for a cross-country move, yet some key components are forgotten.

[raiderred1]

It's no surprise no one has commented on this episode. It.was.SO.boring.  I wonder how many viewers watched? 10?

I was shocked that Ariana asked Kim how she had such full lips and she has none!  I had to rewind that twice to make sure that is what she said! LMAO It was also nice to hear Ariana tell her mom to stop dressing like she is 14. BWAH!

I got life from watching Kroy try to explain to Kim that Brielle is a lazy human being.  Kim Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

And quit trying to make Tracy happen. This show is getting more boring as each episode goes by.  I do like pausing on Kim' s face and trying to figure out what look she was going for.

And sorry, KJ is not cool, he is a BRAT!

[tenativelyyours]

I sense that maybe Ariana is quite aware of not just how silly Plastic One and Plastic Two are in their attempt to be mother and daughter Doublemint Twins (a porn version).  But that the silliness is something that she sees response to in the filming and production crew around their house.  These people are there for a focused amount of considerable time and they also know damn well what is being said on social media about Kim's face and the things she HAS done to it.  Would not surprise me at all if Ariana sees (or even overhears) plenty in the production crew that has her thinking she can voice her criticism in the one place it will be heard.  On air.  While I do think Kim can be incredibly charming for a hot second to get what she wants, I'd think by time there has to be some crew that are sick and tired of her. Especially since she seems to want them to be pieces of the furniture one minute, gabby buddies another minute and then treats them like her own employees another (someone on another board said Kim bragged once about leaving her two boys with a cameraman while she went to a doctor's appt while carrying the twins -- said she gave him no choice -- told him and walked out the door; also there were the clips of their vacation where she kind of got a little pissy trying to get the crew to carry her suitcases, she made it sound like she was joking when someone refused but it looked like she actually expected it to happen). 

Edited November 18, 2016 by tenativelyyours

[raiderred1]

tenativelyyours, I think you are so right that Kim has can change on a dime but  I think she really has to work on any charm she can come with.  I think she is so self-centered that the only charm comes from manipulating someone or a situation.  She seems nasty and mean to me.  She bites Kroy's head off and then walks away not wanting to be an adult and talk things through.  I can't imagine even Kroy will go the distance with this bitch.  

It shocks me how much she acts like a 16 year old, what with the constant selfies and the constant primping.  She is just so gross.

Doesn't Kim have a brother?  Has she also cut him out of her life, too?  

[tenativelyyours]

I actually do hope in an abstract way the marriage hits the rocks sooner rather than later.  I think Kroy has his own famewhore problems but I also wonder how long they would persist if the sports career ended and so did having the cameras aimed at him. 

He does seem like a decent parent though.  I do think he formed ties with the two older girls and Ariana specifically.  I think if he got the four kids and was able to maintain ties with Ariana as he adopted her, even if she is living with Kim or has moved out for school.  At least five out of the six kids would come out ahead than the life being raised with Kim as an equal or determining influence (just by constantly counter-acting any parenting Kroy tries to deliver). 

I think a huge difference that sadly might keep the marriage together longer, is that while I do think Kroy does like the attention of the show, it is more an extension of the whole being special that comes with being an athlete in our society.  Especially good football players.  From the time of high school to their stint in the pros they get lots of attention and not really required to deliver much as a person.  I think that warps even the ones that are good people.  Victor Cruz by all accounts is really a wonderful person but he also seems to live a bit inside the bubble of athletic fame lately (start the countdown to a Victor Cruz scandal since I just typed that). 

Kroy seems smart in many ways (though the marrying of this greedy proud-to-ignorant harpy shows he isn't smart in every area let alone one that is rather needed).  I think he knew early on that he was not going to get his own shoes with Nike.  He was not going to get his face on cereal boxes.  And not just from the position he plays which is not the most glamorous as a whole.  The show gave him a little nudge to provide and get the perks out of life. 

But the difference with Kim and Kroy is that Kroy also seems to recognize he has limitations and to work around them.  And he seems to see people who have other skills and abilities as something to admire.  Kim just sneers.  She belittles what she can't do herself.  She is deliberately simple and not just revels in it as just how she is, she makes it a yard stick to measure others.  And when you set yourself up to be stupid, stubborn, contrary solely for its own sake and arrogant to think that places you in a position to make others bend to you?  That pretty much means most people are "stupid" in her eyes. 

Her one note personality has worn its welcome out I hope and this will see BRAVO sitting there with one eye on the door when it comes to filming them for any future seasons. 

I want everyone's over/under on how long the marriage lasts once the show is cancelled.   I give it 18 months even if Kroy is still playing.  In fact I'm starting to think that a marriage meltdown is likely quicker if Kroy has some sort of income coming in, since she can establish better child support and marriage settlement. 

I would not be surprised if she has sat down in between counting her suitcases to do the divorce math.  Kroy should be double checking the history on her laptop.

Also the one thing Kroy would have in his favor if the marriage ended while he still had a paying career in football is if he has a good agent, he might come out ahead in a divorce.  Sports agents are ferocious when it comes to protecting their cut and in turn their clients.  A good agent in the corner means some cold pragmatic advice and likely a great referral to a good divorce lawyer.

I think her family served its purpose with the wedding and she had enough of being an apple that didn't fall far from the tree.  I thought her parents were creepy and weird and really unlikable.  And I think all those traits Kim accused them of were true.  For her as well. 

On the nose matter, Kim's father had that turned up nose that Brielle had.  On him though it had that "piggy" look of gazing up the nostrils.  I think Kim got her mother's nose instead from the early pictures.  That almost witch's nose that has the slight curve down at the end.  I don't know how many nose jobs she has had, but I think even when Housewives first started she was working with something already re-purposed. 

Maybe that is part of her gambit.  She is trying to claim she didn't have work done because she considers it a correction to her "original" nose she had before the show started. 

Didn't she once brag about the work she had done when the Housewives show started?  How it was her "openness" and "honesty -- say it like it is approach" she knew reached some viewers?  It was all part of the whole wig and makeup declarations that that was just who she was. 

[psychoticstate]

How much money do these people make for this show?  They have very, very expensive taste and Kroy cannot possibly be bringing in enough on his salary.

Brielle continues to prove that she is the most useless, aimless person in John's Creek, if not the entire southeast.  What does she DO all day?  Drive around and get her mother Starbucks?   She's living in a fantasy land if she thinks she is ready to move to LA, into an apartment by herself. First, she has no clue how to take care of herself.  Second, rent in LA ain't cheap and whatever E News could pay her, if they were going to hire her, which they didn't, would not be enough to pay the rent out here in my opinion. 

Tracy is a walking hormone and it's not pretty to watch.

Thank God Ariana is a normal teen.  She's absolutely right in that Kim tries to be a teen - - she's trying to be her children's best friend instead of their mother.

KJ is not cute.  At all.  He's a brat.  Not surprising given how he's being brought up.

[raiderred1]

If you can bare going back to the last episode, slo-mo the shot where Kim winks...oh my!  She is so bizzare looking and when she winks it looks like a creepy baby doll.  She has really screwed up her face with all that work.  How can Kroy not laugh at the clown look she supports?  

Does she just continue getting lipo in order to keep from being obese?  She is such a sloth that she can't even be bothered to eat well or do a small amount of exercise.  Menopause will be rough on her.

Does anyone know if she still smokes?  

Edited November 18, 2016 by raiderred1

[psychoticstate]

1 hour ago, tenativelyyours said:

I think Kroy has his own famewhore problems but I also wonder how long they would persist if the sports career ended and so did having the cameras aimed at him. 

This is an interesting point because up until this season, Kroy has been playing football for a good part of the filming.  Now he's around 24/7.  Has to be totally different.

Kim is entertaining to watch but no way in hell could I live with her. She would make me crazy. I don't know how Kroy does it.   

[FanOfTheFans]

Kim's selfishness when it comes to Brielle's future is horrible parenting. Kroy knows this.  I bet they have had many disagreements over this. Annoying how Kim walks away rather than engage because she knows, she has no rational points. I actually like Kroy. He seems way too normal for Kim, although, I do agree with previous posters that he has some famewhore in him too. Still he is much more grounded than Kim.

Let Brielle go to LA. If she fails, so what. It is all part of becoming an adult and if she does well, that's great too. One thing is for sure, she needs to get out on her own. She may decide she needs an education when she experiences how tough the real world can be. Sadly, I don't think Kim is capable of letting her daughter learn things the hard way. I can see her always bailing her out. 

Edited to add that I think Kim has had at least two, if not three nose jobs. 

Edited November 18, 2016 by FanOfTheFans

[AuntieDiane6]

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Let Brielle go to LA. If she fails, so what. It is all part of becoming an adult and if she does well, that's great too. One thing is for sure, she needs to get out on her own. She may decide she needs an education when she experiences how tough the real world can be. Sadly, I don't think Kim is capable of letting her daughter learn things the hard way. I can see her always bailing her out.

Of course.  She's going to end up just like Asslee Holmes, Jacqueline's daughter on RHoNJ.  Remember?  She had a similar interview in LA ... moved out there in the hopes of getting a spin-off show and when it failed, came crawling home and got pregnant via a "fiancé."  Brielle will do the same ...