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The stills kind of look like they're having a serious convo or fight - which Ive got no problem with, at least they're talking, but wish they would do that without the booze (which doesnt look like wine to me). Do the writers remember Kate's dad or her history with him?

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Do the writers remember Kate's dad or her history with him?

This season? I doubt it. For a man so wrapped up in revisiting the past, it's funny Hawley has so little apparent respect for it. I'd like to see less drinking booze and more honest discussion between them. 

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What intrigues me watching that clip with everyone happy and seemingly back to normal is have they told their friends and family they're back together?

Has the P.I. thing been played down a bit since 8x09, it hardly featured in 8x10 to 8x13, 8x14 he primarily went to LA to look into his disappearance, the SP for 8x16 would seem to be a scene that would have fitted in very well with any previous season, and Alexis' might only have a loft scene like she did in 8x13, and in 8x19 Castle is even wearing his WRITER vest again.

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Now we know that Hayley was tasked with keeping an eye on Castle because of the events of FBOW/Driven does that mean that when Loksnore is resolved that she will have served her purpose and she can be written off the show, I'm sure the UN could use a translator fluent in Geordie.

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Surprise, surprise

 

Andrew Bikichky ‏@AndrewBikichky 12m12 minutes ago

#Castle Ep822
Dir. Rob Bowman
Scrip @AlexiHawley @OldManWinter14

 

Before this season I guess most people would have been excited at the prospect of an episode co-written by TPW, now not so much.

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I thought Winter was losing his edge before season 8, so this predictable double act does not excite.

Aside from Hollanders Woods, the majority of the the season finales have been bad, I don't expect this one to be remotely enjoyable and for me a sign we're in for a rough ride is if I see lots of tweets from cast and crew saying how amazing/incredible/stunning it is. In my experience the greater the hype the worse it usually turns out for the fans.

The circumstances are very similar to what MilMar faced last year so may be Hawley should take the hint and have the episode finish in a feel good way, but I see a cliched and predictable cliffhanger looming.

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Chad Gomez Creasey ‏@chadgcreasey  6h6 hours ago

First day of shooting for #Castle 822! I've read the script and all I can say is whoa!!!

#iknowsomethingyoudontknow

 

Barry O' Brien ‏@Barryjo1O  4h4 hours ago

Episode 822 begins production today. Written by Alexi Hawley and Terence Paul Winter. Directed by Rob Bowman. One word: O.M.G. #castle

 

 Like I said before, the more they whoa and wow the more I dread the outcome. 

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Surprise, surprise

 

Andrew Bikichky ‏@AndrewBikichky 12m12 minutes ago

#Castle Ep822

Dir. Rob Bowman

Scrip @AlexiHawley @OldManWinter14

 

Before this season I guess most people would have been excited at the prospect of an episode co-written by TPW, now not so much.

I only hope it is the VERY LAST, FINAL, FINITO Script written by Hawley and Winter, IMO they did more damage in one season than I thought possible, and my hope is they follow Paul Lee right out the door and we start next year with Rob Hanning running the show, YOMV

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I only hope it is the VERY LAST, FINAL, FINITO Script written by Hawley and Winter, IMO they did more damage in one season than I thought possible, and my hope is they follow Paul Lee right out the door and we start next year with Rob Hanning running the show, YOMV

My guess, Hawley will stick around.

 

Like everyone else by the looks of things he's got no better gig lined up, so Castle will have to do. 

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It may not be up to him, With the guy who hired him gone and his wonderful track record, (Following, now Castle) he may be shown the door and he can take TPW with him.  Both used to be good writers but seems like they fell from the same tree and got hit by the Stupid Sticks all the way down

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It may not be up to him, With the guy who hired him gone and his wonderful track record, (Following, now Castle) he may be shown the door and he can take TPW with him.  Both used to be good writers but seems like they fell from the same tree and got hit by the Stupid Sticks all the way down

 

But if the show is coming back next season and if it is the final year, ABC may just say the hell with it and keep status quo.

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It may not be up to him, With the guy who hired him gone and his wonderful track record, (Following, now Castle) he may be shown the door and he can take TPW with him. Both used to be good writers but seems like they fell from the same tree and got hit by the Stupid Sticks all the way down

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But if the show is coming back next season and if it is the final year, ABC may just say the hell with it and keep status quo.

I would have agreed with you up till Nashville got new Show Runners so there is hope we can get rid of these Show Ruiners sooner than to late

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I would be shocked if anyone at ABC really believes that the show is as mortally wounded as we think. There hasn't really been any dramatic turnaround in regards to the storylines this season so has there really been any panic at the network??

If the show comes back Hawley and Winter will be there - I think the only ? at the moment is Stana

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Well just to take the other side, I think new President Cleans house with Winter and Hawley IF she gets both leads to sign, if not it is a mute point they will put on one more season while they continue their desperate search for something anything to replace it with.  I see the numbers for the Re-run of Shonda's new show sucked air in Castle time slot, so not taking it too seriously, they did far too much photo shopping of the lead, and really not doing her a favor with this story line IMO

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Its not surprising at all AH and TPW are writing the finale, but imo thats the worst news ever. Their combined efforts this season - XX, XY, Cool Boys, GDS, Witness for Prosecution - doesnt bode well for Caskett or the character of Beckett.

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I would be shocked if anyone at ABC really believes that the show is as mortally wounded as we think. There hasn't really been any dramatic turnaround in regards to the storylines this season so has there really been any panic at the network??

I want to believe they changed 8.08 and rushed through their reconciliation due to growing fan hostility, that would at least explain the ending that felt tacked on to another episode. If that's not the case and the initial separation arc was plotted to end exactly like that that it makes Hawley and Winter look even worse as showrunners - they can't do the job and I don't want to see them using Castle as a training ground any longer.

But despite the ongoing Locksat/Castle missing time snorefest, ratings are stable and that's all that matters to the network, they couldn't give a shit about the fans as long as those figures stay healthy enough. If Hawley and Winter can produce something as risible as this ongoing separation arc with Caskett noticeably reduced and still retain their general audience the writers at this point must feel confident the network will let them continue. Why spend money on an overhaul now? The show is coming to the end of its life.

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EXCLUSIVE : JON HUERTAS ON CASTLE, SHAY-JEAN AND UPCOMING PROJECTS.

JHF: What can the Castle fandom expect for the end of this 8th season ?

Jon Huertas : I don’t know what to expect with the end of the season. We still don’t know if we’re picked up and what the outcome of the Finale will be. Since the show has focussed so much on the Castle/Beckett Relationship, if one of them decides not to renew their contracts, I just don’t know what that show would look like. Sad to even have to think about it, really…Just know that we’ll continue having a blast filming the rest of the season and hopefully the audience will see and love that.

 

JHF:Anything about Esposito’s past (or future) you’d like to see develop by the writers in the hypothetical case of a season 9 happening ?

Jon Huertas : I’d love to see more of what his and Beckett’s past was like. Also I’d like to hear about more his time before he donned the NYPD badge.

 

I'm sure Jon is hoping for some shock expose on Espo and Beckett having some fling during the early days of their relationship. 

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Jon Huertas : I don’t know what to expect with the end of the season. We still don’t know if we’re picked up and what the outcome of the Finale will be.

 

Outcome of the finale? Does that mean they have two endings?

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Does anyone here really believe that no one who works on the show has any idea where its future may lie?? Surely they must have already received a heads up about what may happen either way......I mean do they not even talk to each other?? Would it not be a courtesy for Stana (if she is leaving) to give at least some of the people she has worked with for the last 7-8 years a heads up??? I don't buy that they don't already know what could happen.....renewel pending of course.

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Does anyone here really believe that no one who works on the show has any idea where its future may lie?? Surely they must have already received a heads up about what may happen either way......I mean do they not even talk to each other?? Would it not be a courtesy for Stana (if she is leaving) to give at least some of the people she has worked with for the last 7-8 years a heads up??? I don't buy that they don't already know what could happen.....renewel pending of course.

 

Yeah, Stana and Jon always seemed close, so I think if she was leaving he'd probably know. He wouldn't say it, but he'd know. So I'm trying to figure out if his wording is the kind of thing he'd say if that was what he knew. Saying "Sad to think about" seems like messing with fans and not what he'd say if he knew it was actually happening. But Jon isn't always the most straightforward.

 

But there's probably still some real uncertainty in case negotiations fall apart.

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I doubt ANY cast member or crew has the authority to say anything outright about casting. That's network territory and if it was ever spilled before ABC was ready, someone's ass would be grass.

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I doubt ANY cast member or crew has the authority to say anything outright about casting. That's network territory and if it was ever spilled before ABC was ready, someone's ass would be grass.

I would not expect any of them to come out and say what they know but I do find the whole "I'm clueless about our future" company line stuff disingenuous. I'd rather they just say "you'll have to wait and see" or nothing at all.

And Jon is right....it is sad....on so many levels.

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I would not expect any of them to come out and say what they know but I do find the whole "I'm clueless about our future" company line stuff disingenuous. I'd rather they just say "you'll have to wait and see" or nothing at all.

And Jon is right....it is sad....on so many levels.

I don't know. It's early April. I can see them not knowing anything 'til maybe mid month or so.
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I don't know. It's early April. I can see them not knowing anything 'til maybe mid month or so.

They would have the finale script now.... Granted he probably did that interview a while back! Either way I'd bet a large chunk of money on him already knowing what's what when he did that interview.

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I don't know. It's early April. I can see them not knowing anything 'til maybe mid month or so.

Remember last year it was Seamus who was saying the future was up in the air, this year Jon, and I agree with Wendy, with the upheaval at ABC lately, negotiations with the leads probably trumps all other activities, plus, as they wait to see the new shows bomb one after another, IF they can reach agreement with NF, the series goes to S9 like it was announced last year, SK may or may not be there but I am leaning to notion she signs for another year but I really don't see any of the parties going past this, it has been burning out, and we are getting more smoke than flame lately 

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Finale Forecast: ‘Castle’ season 8 hopes for Nathan Fillion, Stana Katic, cast by CarterMatt

 

How it could end – We’ve already seen quite a bit of buildup surrounding the LokSat story, which Beckett (Stana Katic) was so protective and worried about that it led to her splitting from Castle (Nathan Fillion). However, since that time the two have gotten back together and have agreed in the process to work on shutting this down, given that Rick has some memory of trying to solve in now from his missing time. In tying these two different pieces of mythology together, we get the sense that new showrunners Terence Paul Winter and Alexi Hawley want to try to tie these stories up at the end of the season. They have already said that one of their hopes for season 9 is to primarily get around to sharing some great case-of-the-week stories.

 

They could have done all this sharing of great COTW stories this season but deliberately chose not to. 

How it should end – Much of this from our vantage point is right. We do love “Castle” at this point for the case-of-the-week plots, provided that they are particularly strong and really show off the writers’ sense of humor. We also are ready for LokSat / Rick’s missing time to be over. More than anything else, though, we want the season to end with some sort of construct that makes it easier for Fillion and Katic to share more screen time, whether it be Rick being hired as more of a consultant versus a private eye or Beckett finding some more flexibility in her job so that she can be out in the field more. “Castle” doesn’t need to do anything huge other than pay tribute to what it was for so many years: A fun whodunnit mixed with a love story. Without those two characters together onscreen, it’s harder to feel that love.

 

I'm sure many fans would love the Locksnore/Castle's missing time dead and buried by 8.22, the problem with the idea of making it easier for Fillion and Katic to share more screentime is that you would have to persuade both stars that's what they would really like to do - and I can't see either of them changing their existing contracts to make that happen.

 

Fans have to accept if they get a S9 with Fillion and Katic on board - expect more of the same - or worse.


Watch what you love @Sandraxf
ICYMI: Synopsis for #Castle episodes 816 (Heartbreaker 04/04), 817 (Death Wish 04/11) and 818 (Backstabber 04/18).

https://twitter.com/Sandraxf/status/716339684515909632

 

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I'm not sure what to say about the fact that the article about crazy people harassing celebrities online is full of hateful comments about celebrities.  No death threats though.

 

I never want to be famous.

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Sneak peek 2.

 

Does it sound like they changed "Lucy"'s voice? It doesn't sound like Aubrey Plaza to me as much as it did before. 

Thanks but meh, I'm so over them about to both lean into a loving kiss and being interrupted by something - phones, animals, Ryan, Espo, cockblocking themselves even - now its Lucy (yawn). I'd rather they avoided doing this, it robs the scene of any charm and freshness and they had to mention Locksat again which has me gnashing my teeth because it serves as a painful reminder of how stupid they've been for the last 15 odd episodes. 

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Thanks but meh, I'm so over them about to both lean into a loving kiss and being interrupted by something - phones, animals, Ryan, Espo, cockblocking themselves even - now its Lucy (yawn). I'd rather they avoided doing this, it robs the scene of any charm and freshness and they had to mention Locksat again which has me gnashing my teeth because it serves as a painful reminder of how stupid they've been for the last 15 odd episodes. 

What  I took from that scene is that it appears that Castle is now back consulting with the precinct rather than trying to find a way for his P.I. business to intersect on cases. Of course Captain Beckett won't be able to join him and the boyz at the crime scenes like the old days but it's better than nothing. I can’t see Lucy lasting long now that Beckett has moved back in with that attitude. LOL. Of course why they are only now appearing to interact when Beckett first met her in The Nose is something I guess we shouldn’t question too closely, like a lot of things.

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So she hasnt officially moved back in she said she is still sneaking in, so Im guessing they dont tell anyone they are back together. Arghh

Can Castle appear more childish? Dont think so

Beckett was questioning the 'welcome home' because she has been sneaking in to see him all this time (all this time???), I don't think that was the show implying it is still going on. Unless I'm mistaken?

 

The WTF for me is that she assumes she's been "there" this whole time which is complete BS, not only because the hookups have been rather recent, but also because booty calls are hardly a marriage/her 'being there'. 

 

Oh yeah...and the "I've been sneaking into your room"....isn't it 'their' room? O_O

 

And Beckett hasn't met Lucy properly? Come on now...........

 

One last thing....Castle saying "we can simply pick up exactly where we left off" - Tell me that isn't the WHOLE mentality of the showrunners and this season. There's no fallout, no lasting impact to any decision. The fingers are just clicked whenever the writers want and they just pick up without any sort of respect to all the dumb #### they've made us sit through.

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I can’t see Lucy lasting long now that Beckett has moved back in with that attitude. LOL.

It's the one slight single thing that shows any sort of 'difference' since Beckett walked out on her marriage, and it's an A.I. computer...Castle sure as crap doesn't act any different.

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What I took away from the sneak peek is that now that they're, apparently, officially back together, they're back to kisses on the cheek unless it's for more intimate reasons, it seems... Interesting. Can they separate again, please, 'cause they kiss properly when they're separated ;-)

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