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WendyCR72
WendyCR72

Let me introduce you to How I Met Your Mother...

Sara2009
Sara2009

Tbh, this drama is more interesting than the show has been in quite some time.

oberon55
oberon55

This is completely true. But at the same time I watch TV for escape. I watch all kinds of shows & have different expectations depending on the show. When I watch gritty shows like Breaking Bad or

verdana

verdana

Screenspy preview 

 

Didnt find it sexy at all.

 

I didn't watch so can't comment in that respect but what's the betting all the key Caskett bits have already been glimpsed in the promos and sneaks? ABC know what sells when they want to draw fans back in after a long hiatus, get Caskett together showing some skin lol. 

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CastleSeason8

CastleSeason8

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I didn't watch so can't comment in that respect but what's the betting all the key Caskett bits have already been glimpsed in the promos and sneaks? ABC know what sells when they want to draw fans back in after a long hiatus, get Caskett together showing some skin lol.

I agree. I just continue to mourn the death of the couple i used to know. I have a sneaking suspicion Im going to hate this ruse almost as much as i did the split
verdana

verdana

I'm with you on that, haven't watched the sneaks and I've tried to avoid reading the previews but you soon find out snippets. I fear this may be the count down to my last Castle Monday night viewing session until this bullshit separation is done. I've reached my limit on this silliness no amount of Caskett sexytimes can help. 

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westwingfan

westwingfan

I'm with you on that, haven't watched the sneaks and I've tried to avoid reading the previews but you soon find out snippets. I fear this may be the count down to my last Castle Monday night viewing session until this bullshit separation is done. I've reached my limit on this silliness no amount of Caskett sexytimes can help. 

You may not watch another Monday then because I'm convinced that the showrunners don't intend to wrap up the Loksat story until the season finale, which would mean that if Beckett remains convinced that Castle would be in danger if they are seen to be together they cannot come out of the closet until then, and allows the writers to continue portraying minimal Caskett interaction, other than these clandestine booty calls, for the remaining episodes. The BTS pics, tweets from cast, crew, and guests during the filming of the episodes that follow Tone Death haven't indicated much change from the first part of the season regarding Castle and Beckett time, with 8x14 looking like the worst one to come if you don't like Castle investigating with just his daughter and Hayley.

Samantha84

Samantha84

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Castle Review: Fake Break-Up Nudges Show Closer to Its Season 5 Sparks

So Beckett and Castle will ‘fight’ in public? I ask this w. no disdain or BS . . . why? They didn’t do it before a.k.a when Castle believed Beckett wanted to take a break from their married so why now? Wouldn’t that be less believable? Also, I’m to believe that Ryan/Espo would still allow Castle to be around when they froze him out in s3 b/c he didn’t call Beckett over the summer? The writers are asking the viewer to check common sense and this show’s own history at the front door.

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Samantha84

Samantha84

I'm back and only to say one thing.

 

The fact that they want to joke about Castle cheating on Beckett (given the history of these characters) is one of the biggest WTF moments I have had, and that's comparing it to their demolition of the 'one-and-done' backstory. Don't worry though guys, Beckett's comeback to the cheating rumors is that she is dating somebody else anyway. Please step forward Vikram....

 

Also Beckett slapping Castle? Not cool. Society is all about gender equality these days right? I'd love to see the reaction if Castle did that to her.

 

This show has become a joke.

All of this I agree with 100%! The fact the Ryan/Espo would still give Castle the time of day after finding out about him 'cheating'?Bullshit. These are the same dudes that froze him out when he didn't call Beckett over the summer back in season 3. Also, why are Beckett/Castle fighting now when they weren't before when Castle's stupid ass actually bought that Beckett wanted to take a 'timeout' from their marriage? Wouldn't this act make it look suspicious? Writers want LokSat to seem like this big bad but if you think about it he/she is an idiot. This person would have killed Castle immediately ... likely Alexis and Martha as well. Jim would be the only plausible person spared and only to keep Beckett in line. This whole storyline/arc is an insult to the audiences intelligence. imo

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BellyLaughter

BellyLaughter

Castle , Hayley and Alexis go to LA - with little to no Beckett in the episode. I can see why people would see it as a potential spinoff and I'm sure ABC isn't that bummed that that's how it's been received.

As things stand at the moment surely ABC is gonna have to renew Castle in whatever Dr Frankenstein reincarnation they can get it. I read a few days ago that even Quantico may be lucky to see another season?!?!

Desperate times at ABC....

WendyCR72

WendyCR72

Whats the thought process on TV Line saying ep 14 is possible restructuring? We starting Castle PI? Getting fans riled up?

 

Getting fans riled up would happen no matter what or how TV Line reports anything pertaining to the show. With that said, I do think ABC is getting contingency plans in place "just in case".

 

Personally, I think the show should just RIP at this point, but if ABC wants to go with the devil it knows versus something new and unproven, it really has to have such plans in place if some don't wish to return. That's TV life.

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verdana

verdana

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The downward spiral of negativity.

 

It's spooky that you should say that because that's exactly what I was going to say (but had to go out to dinner and couldn't expand on my point at the time) that I fear I'm drowning in a spiral of negativity about this show. However, I intend to do something constructive about it. I don't want to be labelled a "hate watcher" but I fear I might become one as I find less and less to enjoy about the show I used to love, now if you can give me a new show to binge watch I'm receptive! 

 

You may not watch another Monday then because I'm convinced that the showrunners don't intend to wrap up the Loksat story until the season finale, 

 

I'm preparing myself for that eventuality, I suspect you're right and this will drag on until the very end of the season. If so then yeah I won't be watching because like Samantha so rightly said "The writers are asking the viewer to check common sense and this show’s own history at the front door." And I can't do that any more. 

 

if your answer to “Why do you watch Castle? is “To see Rick and Kate attached at the hip for 42 minutes!,” you’re resigning yourself to be disappointed.

 

But here's the thing about this remark, fans were used to Castle and Beckett being in almost every scene at one time, the show has been focused on that relationship and marketed as such for years. I would suggest that it's only survived as long as it has precisely because of that, there are better crime procedurals out there. Over the last season or so that it's become noticeable they're spending less and less time together, who would have thought there would come a time when we would get a Beckett-less episode of Castle?  But it happened. The core of what made the show successful has been Castle and Beckett working together solving a COTW so the changes made by TPTB in trying to diversify and trim back that time is going to cause complaints which won't die down, this was inevitable.  It's a bit like McDonalds cutting back on the burgers and laughably wondering why many of their customers are bitching constantly. 

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verdana

verdana

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And as for the faked break-up, faux fights are held and bogus barbs are hurled, but it’s always with a deft, sometimes literal wink or an apology-in-advance. Meanwhile, the “snowball” effect of an on-the-fly lie from Rick, about his new girlfriend “Svetlana,” makes for great — earmuffs, because I’mma gonna say the F-word! — fun, especially when Kate eventually attempts to one-up her “ex.”

 

This is what I'm talking about when it comes to my disenchantment with the direction of the show this season and why I'm almost done watching on a regular basis.  Castle pretends that he's acquired a new girlfriend after all the trials and tribulations he's been through with Beckett and after barely a year of marriage and everyone is meant to buy into that? Then Beckett is trying to "one-up" him by what? Getting a guy of her own I guess. How is that funny? The Beckett I used to know would never contemplate this. She's also a newly appointed Captain of a precinct so how does this help her career getting involved in this stupid soap opera drama? It boggles the mind that this was the best idea they could come up with as a plot and it fills me with sadness that the characters have been reduced to this. 

 

The writers can dress this up as "fun" with slapstick and comedic misunderstandings between the boys and "mom and dad" over their new situation and throw in some superficial talk about how many times they bang each week but it doesn't change the fact they're making a mockery of their marriage pretending to be adulterers and making fools out of their family and friends along the way and that sucks. 

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verdana

verdana

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Thanks Samantha, I didn't read it but did a search and the word "fun" is mentioned eight times. 

 

 

Stana Katic and Nathan Fillion sell us on the anticipatory giddiness of the marrieds’ covert encounters. Simply said: Getting it on, on the down low, has lit a fire in both of them, creating a certain shared… insatiability.

 

Why do they require such a ruse to spark their sex life? Doesn't say much for them after only a few years of marriage, I don't get why the separation is required in order to give fans moments like this. 

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verdana

verdana

Spoiler Room: Scoop on S.H.I.E.L.D., Hawaii Five-0, Once Upon a Time and more at EW

 

Got any exciting details on what’s coming up for Castle and Beckett? — Anna
In order to keep their rekindled flame secret, Castle is forced to come up with a convincing cover to continue working with the 12th precinct. Unfortunately, what he comes up with will ruffle a few feathers and even leads to a, let’s say, physical altercation.

 

BellyLaughter

BellyLaughter

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Thanks Samantha, I didn't read it but did a search and the word "fun" is mentioned eight times.

Why do they require such a ruse to spark their sex life?Doesn't say much for them after only a few years of marriage, I don't get why the separation is required in order to give fans moments like this.

When put like that -- that's a bit depressing, not fun lol. As has been suggested!!

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KaveDweller

KaveDweller

Why do they require such a ruse to spark their sex life? Doesn't say much for them after only a few years of marriage, I don't get why the separation is required in order to give fans moments like this. 

 

There sex life seemed to be fine all last season. We didn't get to see it but they referenced being pretty happy in that regard.

 

 

Whats the thought process on TV Line saying ep 14 is possible restructuring? We starting Castle PI? Getting fans riled up?

 

I can't tell if they are talking about Castle PI or a change in Caskett's status. Didn't Hawley or Winter say there would be a shift a third of the way into the season (getting back together) and again before the final third. Didn't we also hear that's when we get closure on Castle's missing time. 

 

From TVLine:

I’mma gonna say the F-word! — fun, especially when Kate eventually attempts to one-up her “ex.”

 

Matt Mitovich is tired of the word fun too.

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WendyCR72

WendyCR72

People watch for a variety of reasons: Love for a show, background noise while doing whatever, and yeah, some do hate watch for the MST3K-like snark value.

 

In the end, I doubt ABC gives a crap about the whys, just as long as eyeballs are on the TV screen on their channel Monday nights at 10:00 p.m. So let's stop with any given poster's motivations for watching, let's stop attacking different opinions, and just watch the show - or not. One thing in all of this is right: It's up to every individual what their "line in the sand" is.

 

Not yellowing this as I don't want to be a bitch, but let's direct the criticisms to the show and not each other.

WendyCR72

WendyCR72

This would be more sincere if it came after it started not once it was mentioned. You can't cherry pick until specific people have something to say about it and then it suddenly becomes an issue.

 

Actually, I can when posters start telling people to "get over it" and tell them what they can and cannot wonder about. I get the tone irked some, but attacking back is never the answer as it drags the thread down. It's not about "specific people" than it is the content within the posts. There's a difference.

 

We're all adults. I think we can take issue with tone (and we don't know what the intent was. If it was to mock? Yes, not at all cool.) But this is when one hits the report button, not go on the offensive and attack back.

 

All sniping does in here is lead to the circular wars. And that's from past experience.

 

This season has been divisive on a good day, but let's face it. At this point, it is what it is. Some still like the show; others do not. Both POVs are valid.

 

So let me be clear here: Stop attacking on EITHER side. Love it, hate it, be apathetic. Everyone has the right to feel whatever. What neither side has the right to do is put someone on trial for their opinions. There's nothing to prove and no one will change the other's minds.

 

Not to say it cannot be discussed as civilized adults if one wants to debate. But the attacks are counterproductive to actual discussion.

 

So to all people on both sides, think carefully of what you want to say, and if it is not the intent to mock or whatever, make sure you get that point across. The 'net is hard on tone.

 

Hope this clears things up. If not, please PM me.

verdana

verdana

And poor Lanie finding out about the relationship with the boys and Becket in tears angsting over whether Castle was a cheater and a murderer.

 

I remember Beckett sobbing to Lanie, that must have been emotionally scarring for both of them but it seems the writers expect me to accept she's now willing to agree to a ruse that has everyone thinking her husband (or "ex") is a cheating douche. I can't get my head around that. I can't imagine any scenario where either of them would contemplate this direction as the way to go about fooling Locksat. 

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verdana

verdana

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Matt Mitovich is tired of the word fun too.

It seems everyone is noticing the overuse of the "F-word", it is a bit much. Hawley needs to find something different to say, mix it up a bit. 

 

I have some suggestions:

amusing - enjoyable - entertaining - lively - pleasant - diverting - merry - witty

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westwingfan

westwingfan

Seen this synopsis for 8x12 The Blame Game on twitter.

 

“Castle is abducted and forced to solve deranged puzzles and mind games with strangers; Beckett and the 12th Precinct race to save Castle.”


There's a lot of 'fun' to be had -- Castle as a French Canadian in an ESL class......good god!

This is probably for 8x13 "And Justice For All" as Andrew Bikichky posted this BTS pic of a classroom during the filming for the episode.

 

https://twitter.com/AndrewBikichky/status/675420743656538112

Betweenthisandthat

Betweenthisandthat

I read Matt's TV Line post and he does ask a productive question: Why watch? 

 

I liked this show when it was about Castle the writer and his world was more charming and interesting and compared nicely to the one we saw Beckett in, before she become this jack of all trades supermodel cop. So the reasons I enjoyed the show a lot are long gone.  I occasionally check up on Castle news and see parts of an episode here and there, but I can't say I'm a regular viewer so my investment in what happens comes more from curiosity than anything emotional.  

 

One show I had to stop watching recently for my health was Arrow, a show I mostly loved in its first season and parts of its second, and then I started to dislike how it treated some of its characters, how the fandom talked about some of its characters, and at some point this season , season 4, I decided to give it up.  I had to ask why I was watching and getting out of it, and I faced the fact that what I wanted to see wouldn't happen on the show, not based on how it was written and the audience it was being written for.  It's been a great decision.  So if you can't distance yourself emotionally from a show, I highly recommend not watching it at all if it isn't giving what you want rather than hate watching or watching and being constantly disappointed.  

 

I like that Matt was truthful that if people are watching Castle to see them together for most of the episode, then maybe the show isn't' for you anymore.  If you read the episode synopses and don't like what's coming ahead, then maybe that's just one more sign.  Maybe the ratings will drop enough that the show will have to end, hopefully on a good note with Castle and Beckett together.  If the ratings don't drop despite the changes, maybe that's a sign that your wishes aren't the be all and end all of what the show is and why people watch.  Either way, your stress levels will be much lower.  Not trying to tell people what to do, but I like how Matt laid it all out there so that people can make an intelligent decision based on the fact that this show is in a strange place.  

 

I do think Matt's also hinting that people who watch should enjoy the show right now for what it is because things may change.  It must be a difficult time to be a person who still likes this show because I highly doubt there are places were there isn't an overabundance of criticism and dread about the future, all of which might be completely warranted, but still, it must feel like there's no where to have a fun chat about the show.  Assuming that's possible given all the changes and possible ones to come. 

 

I wonder how the media and Castle fans will remember this show.  It had that will they won't they thing going on. Then tried to mitigate the failings of the Moonlighting curse.  Will there be a Castle curse now?  Or will it be remembered more fondly?  

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Sonik Tooth

Sonik Tooth

All I know is this: This whole arc gives me a migraine. ABC needs to just come out and state what its intentions for the show going forward are.

 

It seems everyone is noticing the overuse of the "F-word", it is a bit much. Hawley needs to find something different to say, mix it up a bit. 

I’m really curious why they keep mentioning the word fun to describe various upcoming situations and plotlines on the show. It’s an unnecessary provocation that encourages ridicule or even anger because of its implied positive connotation and its vague (and therefore open to interpretation) nature. What is fun to you?

 

Combine that with the lack of teasing actual content (other than the COTW) and letting Castle’s and Beckett’s future “working conditions” (show’s structure) up to everyone’s active imagination. And if that weren’t enough, there is the uncertainty of the show’s fate (ratings and actor wise). It shouldn’t come as a surprise that there is a bit of a social media meltdown among people who follow the show closely.

 

On the other hand, how many shows do people watch and how many people actually actively seek knowledge and/ or engage in those shows surroundings compared to passive viewers. Or how influential are they? Considering it’s about “art” (preferences heavily vary) and not some kind of crime (morals vary to a lesser extent). Although it’s not unheard of that people sometimes insinuate some kind of “crime” has been committed to add common ground and moral righteousness to their opinion (harsher: agenda).

 

Anyways, Castle:

The upcoming cases sound entertaining because they seem to continue to vary from their usual murder followed by investigation order. Something I did like this season. If it weren’t for the outlandish use of the Locksat arc (and I’m sure Castle’s vanishing suffers the same fate) and the need to make nearly every character into a caricature of themselves, I’d be fine. Well, it would be more enjoyable.

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verdana

verdana

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Ask Ausiello: Spoilers on Gilmore, Grey's, Arrow, Castle, Walking Dead, Good Wife, The Flash and More! at TV Line

 

Question: How long will Castle and Beckett fake this separation? — Barry
Ausiello: It officially comes to an end in Episode 816 when Kate moves back into Rick’s loft. But as previously teased in Matt’s Inside Line, her happy homecoming hits a tiny snag when she encounters the new lady in her man’s life — Aubrey Plaza’s Lucy. Let’s just say the two of them don’t exactly hit it off. BONUS SPOILER: I’m hearing 818 is a big Hayley episode.

 

This answers the question of how long fans have to wait for this asinine separation story to end and then there's a Hayley-centric episode to look forward soon afterwards woo hoo! I bet Tamala must be wondering what the hell she's done to piss off TPTB when she sees Toks get this focus barely a year into the job.

 

If Beckett is getting upset with a talking box may I suggest she hit the "off" button and bin it. 

 

Is Hayley getting killed off on Castle? That’s the only way that news is a BONUS. 

 

Ouch! I doubt she's meeting her maker any time soon, they need her for a possible spin off. 

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CastleSeason8

CastleSeason8

What amuses me about her moving back in is what's changed? Has Locksat been brought to justice or have they finally realised how stupid this whole separation lark has been, if it's neither of those then I'll be intrigued what the reasoning is for the Beckett agreeing to move back in.

Because the season is almost over. Just give us a few eps of them together i guess before all is said and done.

Hopefully i wont have to hear the word LokSat in those last few eps

Samantha84

Samantha84

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So Haley gets an episode but Lanie hasn't got one in the 8 seasons Tamela's been on this show?!? Bullshit ... complete and utter. 

But as previously teased in Matt’s Inside Line, her happy homecoming hits a tiny snag when she encounters the new lady in her man’s life — Aubrey Plaza’s Lucy. Let’s just say the two of them don’t exactly hit it off.

 

This is so fuckin' stupid! What has become of Katherine Beckett? Every since Marlowe lowered her morals standards, or what the hell ever he did so she can be on equal footing w Castle, it's been a sad to watch this once great and complex character. Which is why, among other things, stopped watching. 6x22 was my series finale and it was wonderful. 

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verdana

verdana

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This is so fuckin' stupid! What has become of Katherine Beckett?

 

Yeah I agree it's a sad state of affairs, and another thing, Beckett must have already met Lucy whilst she's been sneaking around banging Castle constantly. Why does Castle even need Lucy when he's got his wife there to talk to for God's sake? 

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Thak

Thak

 

Yeah I agree it's a sad state of affairs that she should be perturbed by this, and another thing, Beckett must have already met Lucy whilst she's been sneaking around banging Castle constantly so I don't get why suddenly she becomes an issue.

 

 

Because it will be FUN!  FUN! FUN!?

 

 

So Haley gets an episode but Lanie hasn't got one in the 8 seasons Tamela's been on this show?!? Bullshit ... complete and utter.

 

Centric episode after Hayley will be Lucy. ;)

KaveDweller

KaveDweller

I don't think Beckett being weirded out by Lucy is that dumb or out of character. Wouldn't most people find it a little strange to suddenly have to deal with a computer that your husband has conversations with. I mean, they might go overboard, but the concept doesn't bother me.

But she should have to deal with Lucy before episode 16. That's what is really dumb.

Episode 15 is supposed to be a big Beckett episode, right? So something with Locksat must come up that makes moving home okay.

verdana

verdana

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Thanks for the video, she can be such a lovely dork sometimes heh.

 

I'm still deciding do I like that outfit or not, I think I do...I'm not usually a fan of ruffles on anything but I like the colours and the way they're structured.

 

Otherwise the dress would be very bland so it needs something.

 

NEWS/ Rachel McAdams Sparkles at DGA Awards 2016, The Revenant's Alejandro G. Iñárritu Wins Top Honor at E Style. 

 

Stana gets a small mention here. I think Leo is home and dry for that Oscar heh.

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readster

readster

I see the Good Wife is going to end according to TV Line. 

 

I wish Castle could make the same sensible decision and when the times comes and the network number crunchers (and two leads) have had their say make an announcement well in advance. 

The difference between CBS and ABC is that CBS is starting to see shows that aren't pulling in the ratings, the reviews or anything and now are putting stops on shows they know are crashing and burning. Hence the cancelling of TGW and Mike and Molly, yet they keep letting Survivor and Amazing Race never end. ABC has this problem of going and going until really they see no more money in their shows anymore and the rest of the original cast moves on. Castle is so far removed, an announcement they are ending it now would be welcome, of course I love it if Grey's made that same announcement.

verdana

verdana

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Castle Brasil ® ‏@CastleFanaticBR  1 min1 minute ago

#Castle 20 Stills em HQ do episódio 8×12 “The Blame Game” foram adicionado em nossa galeria!! http://castlefanaticbrasil.com/stills-8x12-the-blame-game-hq/ … …

https://twitter.com/CastleFanaticBR/status/696800144155664386

The Blame Game promo pictures are out.

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