Galileo908 March 23 Share March 23 Quote When their archrivals encroach on Gemstone territory, Jesse prepares to strike back, while Kelvin receives an honor. Airs 3/23/25 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152553-s04e03-to-grieve-like-the-rest-of-men-who-have-no-hope/
Galileo908 March 24 Author Share March 24 (edited) Ohhh shit the Golden Bible was stolen in 2002?! And Baby Kelvin saw it and that's what's been causing his night terrors and night sweats. And Satan's rain piss (hotter than regular human urine) and the thunder gave Keefe a big boner. This show, man. I knew Jesse and BJ's mustaches were gonna get addressed. They're totally the Mario Bros. And oh no, not BJ paralyzing himself on the pole! How's he gonna keep swole now?! Loved Judy just being all in on BJ, and then just casually letting him wheel away when she went to confront the old men looking at her. And no one was having sex in the Squirt Yurts Prayer Pods, but they were sure jacking in them! Of course Jesse sicced his boys on the Simkin church after all. And hello Sean William Scott! He's Lori's kid! And only taking one ep before all the kids found out their parents were doing it. (EDIT: and hmm, Lori going into Aimee-Leigh's recording studio at the end. Maybe a Single White Female thing going on?) Why am I not surprised that the Top Christ Following Man of The Year is an actual competition. That's gonna be a fun plot. Edited March 24 by Galileo908 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152553-s04e03-to-grieve-like-the-rest-of-men-who-have-no-hope/#findComment-8615219
Sailorgirl26 March 24 Share March 24 (edited) The sight gag of Kelvin's glasses being completely fogged up in that entire scene after they came out of the freezer had me laughing so hard I had to rewatch it with captions on to get the dialogue. Its completely what would happen but it will still just riotous to look at. The cold opens are killing it and its only been two weeks (of the current Gemstones). Keef is one intense dude. Did anyone else notice Keef and Kelvin were wearing matching sleeveless sparkle sweaters at the barbeque? Kelvin's was off white and Keef's was black. I didn't catch it until they were in the gold cart headed up but it was the same sweater. I hope they aren't going to go Single White Female with Lori -- its realistic that the best friend and husband would connect in their shared love of Aimee-Leigh, and Lori does seem to be very much of the same temperament of Aimee-Leigh--the calming voice in all the chaos. I'm hoping that was just her missing her friend and putting on the glasses to feel close to her again. Only criticism of this episode -- no Uncle Baby Billy!!! Edited March 24 by Sailorgirl26 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152553-s04e03-to-grieve-like-the-rest-of-men-who-have-no-hope/#findComment-8615240
Laurie4H March 24 Share March 24 I love me some Stephen Dorff but is that plot going to go anywhere this year or will it be the same as last year?  They never followed up on beating him up in season 3 and this year I don’t think they will follow up on starting his church on fire.  1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152553-s04e03-to-grieve-like-the-rest-of-men-who-have-no-hope/#findComment-8615244
giovannif7 March 24 Share March 24 (edited) Wow, I didn't think anyone would come close to topping the Sam Rockwell bonkers, off-the-wall White Lotus Asian Ladyboi monologue from last week's episode, but hearing Keefe's (Tony Cavalero) thoughts on The Devil's P*ss in this episode (followed by his - uh - physical excitement) was... well, equal parts eye-opening, fascinating and disturbing. And has Keefe always been jacked to this level? He's always been worked out, but I don't recall him being quite so vascular before this season. Edited March 24 by giovannif7 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152553-s04e03-to-grieve-like-the-rest-of-men-who-have-no-hope/#findComment-8615248
Sailorgirl26 March 24 Share March 24 Reading the AV Club's review of this week and this "gem" (see what I did there?) stood out as highly amusing . . . "Prayer Pods are being returned like so many Cybertrucks because his first church invention has become a hotbed of masturbation. . . " Its the rare show that can elicit a sentence like this!! 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152553-s04e03-to-grieve-like-the-rest-of-men-who-have-no-hope/#findComment-8615256
Galileo908 March 24 Author Share March 24 (edited) 13 hours ago, Sailorgirl26 said: I hope they aren't going to go Single White Female with Lori -- its realistic that the best friend and husband would connect in their shared love of Aimee-Leigh, and Lori does seem to be very much of the same temperament of Aimee-Leigh--the calming voice in all the chaos. I'm hoping that was just her missing her friend and putting on the glasses to feel close to her again. You don't cast Megan Mullaly as the sane, rational love interest. It's only a matter of time before her inner Tammy 2 shows herself. Notice how Sean William Scott said she was "always falling in love." 13 hours ago, Sailorgirl26 said: Only criticism of this episode -- no Uncle Baby Billy!!! Looks like there's gonna be plenty of him next week! This season's been changing things up. Uncle Baby Billy usually shows up in ep 3 of the season, now he's been in ep 2, and not this one. And the interlude isn't ep 4 this time, either. (Yes, we get a prelude AND an interlude this season) edit: turns out the interlude tends to be ep 5 in a season, not ep 4. Edited March 24 by Galileo908 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152553-s04e03-to-grieve-like-the-rest-of-men-who-have-no-hope/#findComment-8615268
thuganomics85 March 24 Share March 24 Keefe put way more thought into the idea of "Devil's Piss" than one would have expected. Classic Keefe! Actually quite like the idea of Jesse now being jealous/threaten by Kelvin rising up in the ranks. While obviously a fuck-up like almost all of the Gemstones, I always thought Kelvin had moments of brilliance that set him apart at times from the rest, and I can see his experience as a youth minister; alongside his willingness to take advantage of his status in the LGBTQ+ community; giving him a leg up on some levels. Now, I won't be surprised at all if it all comes crashing down at the end, but him being a standout could make for some compelling television. Poor BJ! His dreams of becoming a pole dancer have not only already ended, but he might be paralyzed now. Judy certainly isn't making things easier. Again, I honestly do think it is coming from a place of legit concern and love she has for him, but she just can't help but to end making it about her on some levels and just making things worse. But I hope they do work it out when it is all said and done. Glad the siblings are already in the know about Eli/Lori, even though they were missing every obvious flashing neon sign about it until the very end. Looks like they have a brief family hug (complete with Kelvin's fogged up glasses from being in the steakhouse freezer!), but I suspect this won't be the end of it. Seam William Scott was a welcome addition to the show as Lori's son, Corey. He seemed even more upset about Eli/Lori than the Gemstones, so I'm wondering if he will be more of a problem going forward. Kept trying to place where I've seen the actress playing his wife, and I find out her name is Arden Myrin and I know her best from the "Black Ice News" sketch from Key & Peele! Not surprised the Prayer Pods were a bust and even became Masturbation Shacks instead. To be fair, that's on Jesse for actually putting lotion in there. What did he expect?! The Simkins are back into the fold and things will no doubt escalate thanks to the little bit of arson thanks to Jesse's lackeys (I will never not enjoy those fools!) So, the golden bible gets stolen in 2002 and a young Kelvin witnessed it and was possibly discovered by the perpetrator as well. Noticed that Spoiler Michael Rooker was in the guest cast and I didn't spot him anywhere on screen, so I'm wondering if he was playing whoever took the bible.  1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152553-s04e03-to-grieve-like-the-rest-of-men-who-have-no-hope/#findComment-8615278
Galileo908 March 24 Author Share March 24 12 hours ago, thuganomics85 said: So, the golden bible gets stolen in 2002 and a young Kelvin witnessed it and was possibly discovered by the perpetrator as well. Noticed that  Hide contents Michael Rooker was in the guest cast and I didn't spot him anywhere on screen, so I'm wondering if he was playing whoever took the bible.  Has to be the only explanation. You can’t miss that voice, and I had no idea where else he could’ve been. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152553-s04e03-to-grieve-like-the-rest-of-men-who-have-no-hope/#findComment-8615529
patty1h March 24 Share March 24 I noticed some strange cuts and editing choices last night: During the backyard family dinner, everyone is sitting around chatting, then *boom*, the next scene the whole group is walking/following Eli. Also, they just threw Sean William Scott and wife into a scene with no introduction - I was asking myself "who the hell is that?".  It took about 5 minutes before it was explained that he was Lori's son. Next weirdness was the dinner scene in the restaurant - Judy, Jesse and Kelvin disappear then are shown yelling in the freezer.  Huh?  Also, there were quick cuts back and forth that focused on Kelvin's fogged up glasses that were sort of disconcerting. Not the worst things ever, but I noticed it. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152553-s04e03-to-grieve-like-the-rest-of-men-who-have-no-hope/#findComment-8615679
tennisgurl March 24 Share March 24 Oh boy, it looks like Lori might be bad news, I suppose I shouldn't have expected any less from Tammy 2. It took me a second to recognize Sean William Scott but I am really interested in seeing where he fits into all of this as Lori's son. Were they behind the bible theft that traumatized Kelvin and left him with night terrors. So many amazing lines in this one. "I do not feel intimidated by the circling of the men" might have been my favorite, but Keefe was the MVP. That monologue about Satan piss, he and Kelvin and their matching muscle shirts, synonyms, very scene was gold. Not only is Jessie insecure about his dad, now he's insecure about Kelvin pulling ahead in their sibling rivalry. Kelvin might be a painfully insecure little weirdo, but he is actually kind of good at connecting with people in a way that Judy and Jessie can never quite get, so I can see why he would have some success. Poor BJ, he just had his pole math a teeny bit off. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152553-s04e03-to-grieve-like-the-rest-of-men-who-have-no-hope/#findComment-8615706
Dobian March 25 Share March 25 (edited) The siblings pressing their faces to the glass in the meat locker like General Zod and his gang in the Phantom Zone was hilarious. BJ face planting on the pole dance. How he didn't break his neck I have no idea. Keefe getting a boner while talking about the "devil's piss." OMG this show! 😂 Edited March 25 by Dobian 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/152553-s04e03-to-grieve-like-the-rest-of-men-who-have-no-hope/#findComment-8616288
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