S07.E11: Shelter

[Snazzy Daisy]

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When a gunman opens fire at a homeless shelter in Astoria, the team is led toward a killer with connections to a Mexican cartel.

Air Date: Feb 11, 2025

 

[Xeliou66]

Interesting episode, lots of good twists, but a very unsatisfying ending - the drug dealer was somewhat responsible for the massacre at the shelter and would no doubt turn his kid into a monster like him, it was very disappointing that he was allowed to walk away just because he was providing intel. I hope they come back to this story, maybe at the end of the season.

I didn’t feel sympathy for the girlfriend either, she knew what she was getting into by sleeping with a drug kingpin, and she was partially responsible for the carnage as well. I agreed with OA about her. 

I liked seeing Maggie/OA/Scola all work together. Some good stuff for Jubal and the analysts as well.

So Isobel is married now? That was a weird revelation that came out of the blue, it wasn’t even known that she was seeing anyone. I wonder if we’ll meet her husband in the future? 

[shapeshifter]

4 hours ago, Xeliou66 said:

I didn’t feel sympathy for the girlfriend either, she knew what she was getting into by sleeping with a drug kingpin,

Did you think she was lying when she said:

• I was 16 the first time Jorge set eyes on me. He followed me walking home from school. He spoke to my parents, and I had no say in it. I didn't understand the world I was stepping into.
  …I became his girl, and it was good until I grew up and I realized what it cost me. And the first chance I got, I stole drսgs from him to cross the border and start over.
  …The day Miguel turned eight, Jorge took him to the stables. He thought he was getting a new horse. Instead, he found a rival boss tied up. Jorge handed him a gun and said it was time for Miguel to be a man. My son, he couldn't pull the trigger.  I couldn't let him turn our boy into a monster like him.  That's why I stole the drսgs, to sell and give Miguel a new life.

I wondered if she was lying, but in the end it seemed true.

Edited February 12 by shapeshifter

[LisaM]

Felt terrible that the boy was sent back to Mexico to turn into a killer. 

The ghost guns were interesting - and terrifying. 

[Woodrose]

Scola, Maggie, and OA put their lives on the line, took fire, entered a bobby trapped building and one of the SWAT team was injured in the explosion, in order to bring a child to safety. Only for the FBI and DEA to give the child to a violent drug lord, to be trained into a cold blooded killer before he reaches adolescence.

I can't understand why agents would continue to work for the FBI after that. It has happened on FBI Most Wanted, too -- they put their lives on the line to catch a bad guy, and at the end the CIA shows up to let them go. 

The DEA and their informants are just one more player in the violent, profitable drug trade. A cartel with slightly different rules, but they all agree on Rule Number One: keep the trade going forever. Never take out so many rivals that the overall trade suffers and customers drift away.

No one at Isobel's workplace knows she got married. That's an unhealthy level of isolation from your own co-workers. She's trying to be a robot while at her workplace, which occupies most of her waking hours. Bizarre.

 

[Snazzy Daisy]

The news of Isobel being married for 2 months is such a random development for her character. It comes out of nowhere. If her personal life isn’t going to be featured on this show, they should do the same with Jubal. Stop forcing Sam and the kids on us. 🙄

I have ZERO sympathy for Ines. Because of her inability to plan her escape properly, many innocent people died. Selfish b!tch.

[Xeliou66]

7 minutes ago, Snazzy Daisy said:

The news of Isobel being married for 2 months is such a random development for her character. It comes out of nowhere. If her personal life isn’t going to be featured on this show, they should do the same with Jubal. Stop forcing Sam and the kids on us. 🙄

I have ZERO sympathy for Ines. Because of her inability to plan her escape properly, many innocent people died. Selfish b!tch.

Isobel’s reveal about being married was really weird, I wonder how long she had been seeing this dude. I don’t have an issue with characters keeping their personal lives personal, but it’s weird since we see glimpses into the others personal lives that this was never referenced. I bet we meet him in the future though. 
Agreed about zero sympathy for Ines, she was partially responsible for the carnage at the shelter. OA was right to be furious at her. 

[Snazzy Daisy]

11 minutes ago, Xeliou66 said:

Isobel’s reveal about being married was really weird, I wonder how long she had been seeing this dude. 

Wasn’t she dating someone when she was first introduced in this show? 🤔

[Xeliou66]

10 minutes ago, Snazzy Daisy said:

Wasn’t she dating someone when she was first introduced in this show? 🤔

I don’t remember much being said about her personal life, I think she dated a guy who was in politics and then they broke up when his boss, a member of Congress, was exposed as corrupt by the team during an investigation, that was several seasons ago, since then I don’t recall anything being said about Isobel seeing anyone, could be wrong though.

[Netfoot]

13 hours ago, LisaM said:

The ghost guns were interesting - and terrifying. 

From time to time I make small pieces of furniture. I just completed a towel rack. Is it a "ghost towel rack?" If the government wanted to discourage me from building furniture - despite my being legally allowed to do so - I'm sure they would make up an equally "terrifying" name for my towel rack.

Firearms are legal in most of the United States. In more than 60% of the country you can own a firearm without seeking permission to do so, without informing anyone that you do and without applying for any sort of firearms license. And if you wish and have the skill, you can create your own firearm using steel and suitable tools such as milling machines, lathes, etc. And now, with 3D printing technology. 

What terrifies me, is this exchange from the show:

Ian: "Corbin works at an industrial supply house on Wakefield."
Jubal: "Any chance it has a 3D printer?"
Ian: "A gen-three BlockMagic with dual extruder heads..."

That an agency widely recognized as corrupt to the core can, with one second's notice, identify what equipment I have on my premises, down to the make, model and after-market accessories? That scares the crap out of me!

[Dowel Jones]

Someone should have leaked a photo or two of the drug lord inside the Fed building meeting with the DEA chief.  That might have raised a few eyebrows around town.

[millennium]

The last two episodes have been better than usual, I think.   Even the shootings seem improved, the head shots especially.

[psychfan]

On 2/12/2025 at 9:54 PM, Netfoot said:

From time to time I make small pieces of furniture. I just completed a towel rack. Is it a "ghost towel rack?" If the government wanted to discourage me from building furniture - despite my being legally allowed to do so - I'm sure they would make up an equally "terrifying" name for my towel rack.

If there were requirements that towel racks were identifiable so they could be registered and traced, then yes, I guess making one on your own that was not traceable that way would make it a ghost towel rack. And if towel racks were regularly used to kill people or there were other similar reasons to be able to track towel racks as we do guns, or cars for that matter, which are also legal to own and also must be registered and traceable, I’m guessing there would be such requirements. 

[Netfoot]

2 hours ago, psychfan said:

If there were requirements that towel racks were identifiable so they could be registered and traced, then yes, I guess making one on your own that was not traceable that way would make it a ghost towel rack. And if towel racks were regularly used to kill people or there were other similar reasons to be able to track towel racks as we do guns, or cars for that matter, which are also legal to own and also must be registered and traceable, I’m guessing there would be such requirements. 

Firearms require the inclusion of certain marks such as a serial number (1, 2, 3, etc), manufacturers name ("BigGuns & Co."), model ("Big Banger Mk. 1"), caliber ("4.47386E-5 Fur.") and city/state of manufacture ("Boise, ID"). But there is an exception for homemade firearms. Under federal law, individuals can legally build firearms for personal use without a serial number. 

There is no general federal registration requirement for firearms. There are exceptions specifically for machine-guns, short-barreled rifles or shotguns, silencers, etc, which must be registered with the ATF.

Traceability is a job for law enforcement. There is no requirement that a firearm constructor make that job easy for them. Once the constructor fulfill the requirements for necessary marks (which, in the case of a homemade firearm means no marks), their job is done.

 

Edited Sunday at 04:10 PM by Netfoot