nodorothyparker Saturday at 02:49 PM Share Saturday at 02:49 PM For bookwalkers: Quote Jamie, Claire, and Ian return to Lallybroch; Ian reconnects with his family in a time of need, while Claire deals with the fallout from a long-held secret; Roger and Buck search for Jemmy in the past. Link to comment
nodorothyparker Saturday at 03:19 PM Author Share Saturday at 03:19 PM So that was a whole lot of speedreading through all the various loose ends in Scotland. Kristin Atherton's reading of Jenny is a whole lot broader than the very very book specific Jenny we got from Laura Donnelly but I frankly would have been surprised if it wasn't. It's got to be tough picking up a role of a character we only see intermittently years apart in a long running series and have to hit several big character moments right out of the gate. Considering that her role going forward will be mostly reacting to things out of her own limited space, she should be fine. Laoghaire is Laoghaire. That's about all that can be said there. The show did gamely try to hit the point that Jamie wasn't exactly the poor put upon innocent in their brief marriage of the damned whatever else Jamie and Claire may like to tell themselves, even with the speedreader version of their final settlement. He used her as a placeholder and never cared enough to try beyond that. But either way, that's checked off. At least they finally did the big time travel reveal onscreen instead of the usual oh I told them about it both book and show tend toward just off screen or off page. The Murrays didn't really react much to what has to sound like a barking mad sort of thing to characters who haven't been playing along but it probably helps that Jamie and Young Ian who have now lived with her for years are sitting right there and so clearly believe this to be true. Kind of like with the Buck storyline last season, that they all come from a culture full of stories about fairies and disappearing for 200 years doesn't hurt either, and as as Jenny says, it explains a lot of things about Claire that she'd previously had to accept some pretty flimsy sounding excuses for. The doors opening first to Brian Frasier and then Geillis were nicely done, especially in building to the first fakeout of expecting Jamie to open the Lallybroch door to Roger. I can mostly think the storyline of accidentally wandering into the 1739 wayback is mostly a dud on the page in that it doesn't really advance the larger story or accomplish much beyond a few "huh, well then" character moments and still be interested to see what they do with it. 3 Link to comment
Ziggy Saturday at 09:43 PM Share Saturday at 09:43 PM Did Jenny not travel to the Colonies with Claire in the book? I do distinctly remember her saying she was coming with them, now that Ian had passed away. 1 Link to comment
ch1 Saturday at 10:14 PM Share Saturday at 10:14 PM 24 minutes ago, Ziggy said: Did Jenny not travel to the Colonies with Claire in the book? I do distinctly remember her saying she was coming with them, now that Ian had passed away. Ian was still alive when Clare left. That is the reason Jaime stayed behind. Jenny left with Jaime. 3 Link to comment
Ziggy Yest. at 04:24 AM Share Yest. at 04:24 AM 6 hours ago, ch1 said: Ian was still alive when Clare left. That is the reason Jaime stayed behind. Jenny left with Jaime. Right, I understand why the show portrayed it that way. What I’m asking is, did Jenny travel with Claire or with Jamie in the books? And who did Young Iam travel with? I just can’t remember how it happened in the books, so I was hoping somebody would remind me. Link to comment
areca Yest. at 04:38 AM Share Yest. at 04:38 AM (edited) She's telling you how it happened in the books. Claire ends up thinking Jamie is dead, because the boat they were supposed to be on fails somehow when he and Jenny are traversing to the colonies, but I can't remember how. Also, new Jenny doesn't hold a freakin candle to Laura Donnely. I'm so sad she didn't return. She _nailed_ the Jenny char. Edited Yest. at 04:39 AM by areca Link to comment
nodorothyparker Yest. at 03:29 PM Author Share Yest. at 03:29 PM Young Ian and Claire leave to go back to colonies in the book pretty much as they did here. Book Claire is initially going back to operate on one of Fergus and Marsali's kids but then Lord John and his nephew pop up as well since they're all right there. The show is combining those two things, probably because there's so much more dramatic fallout thrusting Claire into Lord John and William's orbit. Book John actually had been writing letters chasing them around for months looking for help because as unlikely as it may sound there were cases of people who could and did linger for extended periods of time from gunshot wounds if they didn't die right away. The nephew had gotten enough medical care of the day to still be alive but no one had been able to dig all the bullets out and patch him up enough to actually recover. Jenny will surprise everyone by deciding to leave with Jamie after Ian Senior dies because she's just done with everything. The misdirect comes when they book passage on a ship that for some reason leaves without them and then is lost at sea. Jennie and Jamie then book passage on another ship and show up later in Philadelphia not having any idea that everyone believed they'd gone down with the first ship. Drama ensues. 2 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule Yest. at 04:25 PM Share Yest. at 04:25 PM Nothing against the actress, but I don’t like the new Jenny. She looks older than Jamie when she’s supposed to be younger. Even in the flashback, she didn’t look the teenager she was supposed to be. I really wish Laura could have come back. The chemistry isn’t there for me, either m. EWWWWW! Hosebeast!!! I thought I’d seen the last of her. And her utter delusional hypocrisy over Jamie and attacking him again is just tiresome at this point. I haven’t checked, but it looks like Joanie is played by the same actress who played her as wee? I LOVED seeing Steven Cree again as Ian!! And he broke my heart at the end. But oh it was so wonderful to see Beautiful Scotland again! And Jamie and Claire. 1 Link to comment
Noneofyourbusiness 21 hours ago Share 21 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said: Nothing against the actress, but I don’t like the new Jenny. She looks older than Jamie when she’s supposed to be younger. Even in the flashback, she didn’t look the teenager she was supposed to be. I really wish Laura could have come back. The chemistry isn’t there for me, either m. As I said in the nobooktalk thread, Jenny is older than Jamie (and in the flashbacks, she's 20 or 21 if Jamie is 18 or 19 as Roger thought to himself), and Laura didn't want to come back. Edited 21 hours ago by Noneofyourbusiness 1 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule 20 hours ago Share 20 hours ago 25 minutes ago, Noneofyourbusiness said: As I said in the nobooktalk thread, Jenny is older than Jamie (and in the flashbacks, she's 20 or 21 if Jamie is 18 or 19 as Roger thought to himself), and Laura didn't want to come back. So I read and I mentioned that I could have sworn they said she was 16 to his 18 when Black Jack tried to rape her in season one. And too bad Laura didn’t want to return. Link to comment
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