S06.E12: Exodus

[MoeBird]

Okay, so I agree that J has transferred the money from the Cody's bank account into his. He left $10 so the account wouldn't be closed.  I also agree that J is using the tracker to get Pope caught, and not to help him escape. I even agree that J tampered with the cars, but I think J hid a large amount of drugs in the vehicles for the cops to find at the border. (Drugs from a past episode that were stolen and/or buried that weren't accounted for.)  Shoot-out ensues at the border. Where I don't agree is with respect to Penny - A law office would never let a paralegal, never mind a mere legal assistant, handle a multi-million dollar estate. They just wouldn't. Sure, Penny could type up the papers for the attorneys to review, and she may even be a Notary; however, a Notary can ONLY confirm/verify the person signing the documents. They have no legal authority, except to the signature.  (I hope you know this is not how a law office functions.) In addition, it was way too convenient that Penny happened to have a sister with drug issues, just like J's mom. I think Penny is working with/for the Feds, who have been tracking the Cody clan since they robbed the military base.  J's bank account was probably frozen by the Feds the minute he transferred the money (since Penny was aware of what he was doing). In the end, J will get nothing, but jail time or death. J's a murderer. He killed the attorney by feeding her to the sharks. And, besides killing Smurf, a part of me thinks J killed his own mother.  As for the rest - Pope, Darren and Craig - they will most likely be killed in a gun battle. Although I wouldn't mind if Craig and Darren make it out alive, they won't.  The only way the writers would let any of them live is if they were bringing back the show, or they planned on a future movie reboot. Neither seems plausible at this point. 

[iMonrey]

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Smurf doesn’t respect women. Smurf respects men more then women. 

She respected Pam Johnson, she left all her money to her. I can't think of any men she ever respected. Maybe Pete.

[MoeBird]

2 hours ago, MoeBird said:

Okay, so I agree that J has transferred the money from the Cody's bank account into his. He left $10 so the account wouldn't be closed.  I also agree that J is using the tracker to get Pope caught, and not to help him escape. I even agree that J tampered with the cars, but I think J hid a large amount of drugs in the vehicles for the cops to find at the border. (Drugs from a past episode that were stolen and/or buried that weren't accounted for.)  Shoot-out ensues at the border. Where I don't agree is with respect to Penny - A law office would never let a paralegal, never mind a mere legal assistant, handle a multi-million dollar estate. They just wouldn't. Sure, Penny could type up the papers for the attorneys to review, and she may even be a Notary; however, a Notary can ONLY confirm/verify the person signing the documents. They have no legal authority, except to the signature.  (I hope you know this is not how a law office functions.) In addition, it was way too convenient that Penny happened to have a sister with drug issues, just like J's mom. I think Penny is working with/for the Feds, who have been tracking the Cody clan since they robbed the military base.  J's bank account was probably frozen by the Feds the minute he transferred the money (since Penny was aware of what he was doing). In the end, J will get nothing, but jail time or death. J's a murderer. He killed the attorney by feeding her to the sharks. And, besides killing Smurf, a part of me thinks J killed his own mother.  As for the rest - Pope, Darren and Craig - they will most likely be killed in a gun battle. Although I wouldn't mind if Craig and Darren make it out alive, they won't.  The only way the writers would let any of them live is if they were bringing back the show, or they planned on a future movie reboot. Neither seems plausible at this point. 

I'm also going to add one more theory:  If Penny isn't working with/for the Feds, she could be the daughter of the Attorney that J fed to the sharks. 

[Craigcodybazhate]

Moe bird moe bird. Wow you took the words out of my mouth. 
 

right under our nose. I’ll tell you. Penny is the daughter of the lawyer paralegal?. Another big transfer of funds just like Jay asked the lawyer to do to smurf makes so much sense. 
 

he doesn’t see it coming. Her putting two bullets in his head. Taking the money or telling his uncles. Maybe her Husband killing J.

I think the uncles will be in a shootout at the boarder. 

when his Uncle told J get rid of that girl. That was a clue and I think that clue is coming back to him. J always gets set up by women just like the other girl who’s guy just got out of jail. Her husbands just gonna walk away without saying anything to J? Nah somethings up. Maybe he fights it out with him. 
 

I keep going back to the clues the military P.I. That Jay hired where did he go? Who is this guy? Makes you wonder Hugh? Is this a usual suspects where Penny gets it all and gets Jay? 
 

Jay has never paid for what he’s done. What about Pete his crew? 
 

well I’ll tell you this. The writers gave away way too much in that trailer. The hug with all the uncles. The guy shooting leaving the house that’s Craig. He’s gonna get shot blasted. 
 

this show is a trajedy not a fairytale. J gives the info where the guys are at. And the cops get there. 
 
The plan will go fine they’ll get Pope and then they will go to the safe house something tells me J will have to do something air quotes. Go see Penny he will come up with something she can’t come or some money he has to get but he will get away from the guys and drop a dime on the guys. 
 

the cars it won’t be anything like they won’t work it will probably be anybody ever hear of low jack? He probably put a GPS on the cars so it will check where the guys are at. Nobody will see that coming. 
 

remember they aren’t expecting there uncle to fluck them over. Also what’s the significance of the diamonds Craig gets from J. 
 

go rewatch episode 10 I think look at what Billy says about the plan with J? You gonna trust J? You can’t trust J. Deeran has a look. Like he doesn’t want to do it. But he has to do it for his brother. And Deran never believes Billy. It’s the first time Billy looks like a concerned father. 

One more thing they robbed a military base. Is her husband military building a case on them? Or Is the shootout not cops and the Husband and his crazy military friends shooting out the uncles. Did Penny give the location.??????? 

[MoeBird]

4 minutes ago, Craigcodybazhate said:

Moe bird moe bird. Wow you took the words out of my mouth. 
 

right under our nose. I’ll tell you. Penny is the daughter of the lawyer paralegal?. Another big transfer of funds just like Jay asked the lawyer to do to smurf makes so much sense. 
 

he doesn’t see it coming. Her putting two bullets in his head. Taking the money or telling his uncles. Maybe her Husband killing J.

I think the uncles will be in a shootout at the boarder. 

when his Uncle told J get rid of that girl. That was a clue and I think that clue is coming back to him. J always gets set up by women just like the other girl who’s guy just got out of jail. Her husbands just gonna walk away without saying anything to J? Nah somethings up. Maybe he fights it out with him. 
 

I keep going back to the clues the military P.I. That Jay hired where did he go? Who is this guy? Makes you wonder Hugh? Is this a usual suspects where Penny gets it all and gets Jay? 
 

Jay has never paid for what he’s done. What about Pete his crew? 
 

well I’ll tell you this. The writers gave away way too much in that trailer. The hug with all the uncles. The guy shooting leaving the house that’s Craig. He’s gonna get shot blasted. 
 

this show is a trajedy not a fairytale. J gives the info where the guys are at. And the cops get there. 
 
The plan will go fine they’ll get Pope and then they will go to the safe house something tells me J will have to do something air quotes. Go see Penny he will come up with something she can’t come or some money he has to get but he will get away from the guys and drop a dime on the guys. 
 

the cars it won’t be anything like they won’t work it will probably be anybody ever hear of low jack? He probably put a GPS on the cars so it will check where the guys are at. Nobody will see that coming. 
 

remember they aren’t expecting there uncle to fluck them over. Also what’s the significance of the diamonds Craig gets from J. 
 

go rewatch episode 10 I think look at what Billy says about the plan with J? You gonna trust J? You can’t trust J. Deeran has a look. Like he doesn’t want to do it. But he has to do it for his brother. And Deran never believes Billy. It’s the first time Billy looks like a concerned father. 

I do think my first hunch is right, though, that the Feds have been monitoring the Codys since the military heist.  And, remember, Penny's fictitious-husband is in the "military" of all things. I don't believe for a minute she's married, nor does she have an addict for a sister. 

Like I posted earlier up, J planted drugs in the cars, and most likely a tracker too, but it won't matter when they get to the border.  Those canines will sniff out the drugs and Craig and (possibly Darren) won't know what's coming.

I don't think J will show up at the safe house.  In the end, he wants his uncles to know that he screwed them over. And, even if they all got out, they'd never be able to come back to the States to track J down.

The only saving grace for Craig is if he takes one of the "fake" diamonds to his fence to have it set in an engagement ring. The fence will tell him it's a fake.

I'm not counting Billy out.  Billy doesn't trust J for a second. He may even take a bullet for Derran, in one last show of love for his son. In fact, Billy may have given them a tad bit of disinformation about the prison, just to trick J and save Derran.

I do think they're all dead in the end ... unless Billy pulls through for Derran and he's able to make it to the beach and find Adrian. 

Of course, the writers could take the lazy way out ... all the unnecessary filler for the past two years! Geesh! 

[Craigcodybazhate]

Damn mo bird are you writing for the show??????? Really. That is brilliant. 
 

I just put two and two together we never see Pennys Husband we never see Pennys sister. She probably could’ve been a fed to. She O D. Julia O D. It makes sense. Get close to him. 
 

do we even know if the layer Knows Penny is a fed?????? She’s got a ton of evidence. 
 

J was snitching like a rat. Saying his brothers are murderes. The feds get to the safe house. And when J is escaping with Penny she tells him he’s under arrest but now his ultimate penalty he has to sit in Jail and think about it. 
 

his brothers get blasted in the shootout. And the feds get all the money. 
 

I just don’t know how any of that money gets to Lena. 
 

is there a little something in your head that tells you Lena is popes daughter? Why the flashback with Baz?????? 

[Crashcourse]

All I know is, a lot of shit will be going down for just an hour and 14 minutes.  It should have been a two hour finale.   

Edited August 24, 2022 by Crashcourse

[Craigcodybazhate]

Real quick why would Billy give his son bad intel? To get him arrested? And keep him from being shot by cops? Adrian is in Thailand? He’s long from Deran I just don’t see the writers giving him a fairytale. 
 

Pope told J get rid of that girl. Remember that line. In fact homework assignment rewatch that episode. People think Pope is dumb or slow he’s brilliant when it comes to street smarts. 
 

he said stay away from that girl. Like a dad telling his son. This is what is gonna get a J his downfall. 
 

let’s look at it full circle. Every Cody had a way out. Didn’t take it. Derran could’ve left with Adrian to Thailand. 
 

Craig could’ve left with Ren to San Antonio. 
 

J could’ve just listened and not took Penny he could’ve just bounced and not told her anything. He didn’t have to go through with the plan. 
 

let’s spend some time on this. This is a bad plan. Bad plan!!! Just like Billy said. You don’t do a breakout from jail. You don’t do a jailbreak you’ll get shot. 
 

Pope told the cop he killed Catherine because he wanted it off his guilt. He knew It was bad intel he said it. Smurf lied. He only has done kills that we’re justified. He’s Dexter. Catherine wasn’t justified cause she wasn’t rating. And that gets at him cause what it did to Lena. 
 

but this is all about smurf controlling. She didn’t like Catherine getting close to him. Maybe it was revenge for Catherine having a baby with Baz. 
 

More smurf Pamela J dumped her granddaughter and got with this new lawyer that was his mistake. Not going with someone he can trust. At least he thought. He did paralegal he met from Law Firm new Law firm. 
 

and to the other post yes we know I thought the same thing why would they let a paralegal do that transfer? The lawyer would have to do that. It’s T.V. 
 

just like the writers had to get Pope in jail. So they allowed him to be interrogated by a cop without his lawyer present. When he turned himself in with that lawyer. Where did his lawyer go???? He just magically disappeared. Writers lol. I guess you gotta move the script along. 
 

also Pope clearly has mental health they could’ve said his client has mental health they did that interrogation without his lawyer he didn’t ask for one because he was under duress all that was said under duress he didn’t know what he was saying. He has Mental Health documented Mental Health. None of that would hold up in court. But you know the Writers”””””””!!!!!!!!!!

[Craigcodybazhate]

Crash course get your popcorn ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Craigcodybazhate]

Another writer giveaway Craig and Derran keep saying how much does she know??? She knows everything??? And J says yeah. And then Pope said does she know all our stuff?????? 
 

they clearly are giving us stuff we gotta pay attention. Remember she’s not a lawyer. There’s no attorney client privelge. On better Call Saul. Sauls the lawyer so they can tell him dirt. Nothing holds up. 
 

Js first girl Pams granddaughter an actual Lawyer. But a paralegal she can say anything. That’s as good as telling a janitor. 
 

Js not on the street shlit his uncles are. Dude acts like he knows it all. Dude you don’t know nothing. 

[Auntie Anxiety]

Well, I hope you get the finale you want, with all the double-crossing and people not being who we thought they are, but I don’t give the writers that much credit. I’ve watched a lot of television over the decades and am rarely satisfied with the final show, other than Breaking Bad and probably Better Call Saul (haven’t watched the second part of the last season yet) because Vince Gilligan respects the audience and writes for people who have some intelligence and  common sense. Actually, most finales suck. As a result, I’m not going to waste any brain cells overthinking this show. My expectations are pretty low, but that’s just me.

[Craigcodybazhate]

There’s a lot of that on this show.

I mean Baz having Pete have a girl do it. That nobody knew then J going out with that girl. 
 

this season skate rat was actually a rat. 
 

so I don’t know but it makes sense. Last season they killed a Fed the crew didn’t do it. Another cop did it but that’s on the crew. The Cody’s it happened at thier bar. 
 

and I think that’s why Penny’s on the show. The Fed and I think she’s a Fed 

shlit J was singing like he was Justin Timberlake selling his uncles down the river. 
 

and you know what I was rooting for J until he turned into a snitch. Killing the lawyer was bad to. 
 

but my favorite character is Craig. He’s a meathead a cokehead but he ain’t no snitch and he would be there for his brothers. 
 

Pope is a compelling character I’m rooting for him. I thought he found peace at the skatepark. 
 

feels like ever since last season he was doing right putting the kid back with his mom. 
 

Pope season 1 would’ve killed that snitch he asked him what does the cop know. Character development. Smurf made him a hit man. That’s why she fought Julia Julia wanted Pope free and smurf couldn’t handle that. 
 

I know one thing J has it coming on some street shlit is snitching. Why be a rat? Even though your uncles was doing you wrong why snitch? 
 

I mean let’s be real Julia was never gonna take her son in that house or be around smurf again she’d rather be in the streets then have her son be victim to abuse like her brother was. So y’all can talk that the uncles didn’t help J all y’all want. But Julia wasn’t going back to the house. 
 

I’ll give y’all this they could’ve sent money but they had smurf on them. And for all we know they could’ve given money. 
 

from the intel I get Craig and Darren didn’t know Julia just didn’t know her. Pope probably has the guilt of not going around his sister more. 
 

we do have to put in consideration that Pope got locked down for awhile in Jail. 

[Craigcodybazhate]

Looked at the log line for the season finale on directTV or series finale I should say. Wow just wow . 

[Craigcodybazhate]

It said Andrew Pope commits the original Cody sin. What could that be? It was the B story A story was Cody’s go on a Scary Mission. I think the B story’s in this season are usually the flashbacks meaning. It must be something revealing Pope is Js father. That’s the only thing I can gather. 
 

I just don’t get how it could happen. Unless Julia is in a drugged out state and Pope takes advantage of her. Cause she was disgusted by the kiss. But it seems like the writers were introducing us to that possibly happening. I didn’t get it. 
 

but seems like that’s the big plot reveal from all the flashbacks can be why maybe Pope doesn’t come around and help. Maybe all the resentment of J. 

[MoeBird]

22 hours ago, Craigcodybazhate said:

Damn mo bird are you writing for the show??????? Really. That is brilliant. 
 

I just put two and two together we never see Pennys Husband we never see Pennys sister. She probably could’ve been a fed to. She O D. Julia O D. It makes sense. Get close to him. 
 

do we even know if the layer Knows Penny is a fed?????? She’s got a ton of evidence. 
 

J was snitching like a rat. Saying his brothers are murderes. The feds get to the safe house. And when J is escaping with Penny she tells him he’s under arrest but now his ultimate penalty he has to sit in Jail and think about it. 
 

his brothers get blasted in the shootout. And the feds get all the money. 
 

I just don’t know how any of that money gets to Lena. 
 

is there a little something in your head that tells you Lena is popes daughter? Why the flashback with Baz?????? 

I don't think Pope is Lena's dad, nor do I think he's J's dad.  

I don't care how lazy the writer's are, Penny is nothing in the legal world. Lawyers would not, under any circumstances, leave any estate planning to an assistant who's not even a paralegal. Attorneys have to sign off on anything and everything. 

I also think there's far more than $5 million in the estate. There may be only $5 million in the account J transferred from, but all those ocean properties themselves, never mind the apartment complexes, add up to far more than $5 million.

Also, I don't think Billy would screw over Derran.  I just think Billy may have put some precautions in place just in case J screwed them over.  J wants his uncles caught, or dead, period. Billy knows this and will protect Derran.

Of course, Pope's confession would not hold up in court.  He asked for a lawyer.  Anything he said after he asked for a lawyer, which included his confession, is inadmissible in court ... Even if he did confess. He did so after he asked for a lawyer.  Lazy writing.

[Craigcodybazhate]

Totally agree with you spot on. 
 

he asks for a lawyer in jail. But doesn’t ask for a lawyer in the interrogation that leads to him going to jail and potentially prison when his lawyer is there. 
 

i think the lawyers took the easy way out a couple of episodes this season. 

[Craigcodybazhate]

Definitely more money in there then 5 million. The house smurf got is worth 5 million alone. You combine the beach properties and apartment units they own and the bar that’s more than 5 million. Possibly sitting on closer to 30 million. We haven’t even factored in the bowling alley. Jobs they pulled. 
 

but guess writers have to tie that up. This season has been really good. I think they wanted to really stay on establish one story. It’s been a very dark season though.
 

Yeah all those documents would have to be signed off. 

[Craigcodybazhate]

But Mo help me out. You are Animal Kingdom expert. We always have some type of Con rather it be Js girl screwing over J and taking his assets or trying to when he gave her a place.

So stay on this with me. He gives Penny a place. 
 

What’s the Con we haven’t talked about? The writers basically let us look at the script that J is screwing the guys over. 
 

we would see Billy do it.  
 

But what about Penny or does Pete come back to work with her. Something is off about that and her. Something Tells me J is gonna get his clock cleaned by her and is gonna need his uncles. 
 

I hate to say Billy was right but that last scene looks like a suicide shootout by cop no way out. The plan looks horrible the guys should have done something else.  

[MoeBird]

21 hours ago, Craigcodybazhate said:

But Mo help me out. You are Animal Kingdom expert. We always have some type of Con rather it be Js girl screwing over J and taking his assets or trying to when he gave her a place.

So stay on this with me. He gives Penny a place. 
 

What’s the Con we haven’t talked about? The writers basically let us look at the script that J is screwing the guys over. 
 

we would see Billy do it.  
 

But what about Penny or does Pete come back to work with her. Something is off about that and her. Something Tells me J is gonna get his clock cleaned by her and is gonna need his uncles. 
 

I hate to say Billy was right but that last scene looks like a suicide shootout by cop no way out. The plan looks horrible the guys should have done something else.  

I think Pete is out of the picture.  The writers didn't leave enough time.

I think the "Big Con," not the one J's pulling over on his uncles (which was made quite obvious) is the one the Feds are pulling over on the Codys.  There's one other semi-prominent character from the beginning of this season you're forgetting about -- the big biker dude (I can't remember his name) who befriended Craig!!! Besides Penny, who's working with the Feds for the unresolved Military heist, I also think he's undercover with the Feds.

Notice how Ren and Craig got off Scott-free after they robbed the Convenience store; or, how Craig and the biker dude just whisked away after robbing the restaurant?  Those would have been easy crimes to solve, but the Feds told the police to back off.  (The robbery was just to get Craig to trust the biker dude.)

So, now we have the Feds covering J and Craig, but what about Deran?  Well ... we should not forget about the two guys who opened up their bar next to Deran's, nor should we forget about the surfboard that mysteriously disappeared from Deran's bar.  I think that whole fight scene was a lead up to getting that surfboard, and whatever listening device was attached, into Daren's bar. 

The end of AK won't be about criminal versus criminal, it's going to be about the Cody's getting their comeuppance.  And the reason I think it's the Feds is 1. It was a Military heist (so it has to be the Feds); and 2. They're the only ones with that much undercover power, and a court order grand enough, to search, seize and record to the extent they have.  (Who knows? Maybe the cop who bugged the Cody's house is a Fed, too.)

At least that's the way I would have written it.

[Craigcodybazhate]

Damn your good Mo. You’re a hall of famer. 

[Craigcodybazhate]

Ima throw one at you. You are to good. You should be writing on the show. 
 

the Brotha Biker dude. Always just comes around he was showing up at the gym. Never did the coke and he never got mad at Craig. And the robberies they do they always got away. And he got to Craig on the sponser to sponser Craig. Like he doesn’t look like a druggie. Just saying I like your angle of him being a fed. 
 

and he already had that job set up at the restaurant. 
 

You are a genuis. Because now I see them all being cops the bar guys they appeared and then disappeared. What about the guy Darren was hooking up with? 
 

I think Pope gets away and escapes with Amy. That’s the happy ending. 
 

ima throw a curve ball at you and really mess with you on this. 
 

this show foreshadows remember they show the old job with Smurf when she asks Billy to get some people at Camp Pendleton? And it’s when Baz doesn’t show up? 
 

that’s why I like your military angle. The writers gave us something away there. Maybe they come full circle with Billy involved in this plan. Latinas definitely a fed. She came from outa town and she knew everything about the snitch. 
 

It’s all cops and the cops never get them the whole series and I think they finally do. Like Pope said GET RID OF THAT GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jay never got rid of her. 
 

and she’s gonna tie it all together. You are so smart. See Js dumb ass trying to be cute and screw his brothers over probably tied it all together with that transfer the wire and I bet when he said his brothers are murderers and criminals she probably recorded that and will play it for him it all makes sense. 
 

One more thing for you. Why did Billy randomly show up?????? Is he working with the feds?????? Maybe he was trying to free his son and tell him to get out the best way he can? Did he bug the bar? 
 

and then Deeran accused his worker of stealing maybe that was a fed. Deran not trusting the right people. I think that’s the misdirection. 

[Craigcodybazhate]

Here’s another thing for shadow the jewelry heist the brother say to J lose his number and J said his brother treats him like shlit there’s an angle that is like J what he sees with his uncles he won’t think twice but the other guy feels like crap J doesn’t care no emotion J feels nothing. Just a foreshadow to think about. 

[Marley]

I finally watched this and I already hated Smurf but she was disgusting in this episode.

Throwjng her daughter put like trash. She hates women and now she has Pope to herself basically which makes me puke. I can barely watch when she’s hanging all over him and kissing him.

She was basically about to start making out with young Baz. He took too long to steal from her in the future. Should’ve set her up long before.

Can’t imagine how she treated Craig and Deran growing up and when they were teens.

I’m sure the finale will be a shitshow lol.

[Auntie Anxiety]

19 hours ago, Craigcodybazhate said:

One more thing for you. Why did Billy randomly show up??????

He showed up because Deran called him for some help with the plan to spring Pope. Deran thought Billy might know someone inside. It wasn’t random.

[MoeBird]

18 hours ago, Craigcodybazhate said:

Ima throw one at you. You are to good. You should be writing on the show. 
 

the Brotha Biker dude. Always just comes around he was showing up at the gym. Never did the coke and he never got mad at Craig. And the robberies they do they always got away. And he got to Craig on the sponser to sponser Craig. Like he doesn’t look like a druggie. Just saying I like your angle of him being a fed. 
 

and he already had that job set up at the restaurant. 
 

You are a genuis. Because now I see them all being cops the bar guys they appeared and then disappeared. What about the guy Darren was hooking up with? 
 

I think Pope gets away and escapes with Amy. That’s the happy ending. 
 

ima throw a curve ball at you and really mess with you on this. 
 

this show foreshadows remember they show the old job with Smurf when she asks Billy to get some people at Camp Pendleton? And it’s when Baz doesn’t show up? 
 

that’s why I like your military angle. The writers gave us something away there. Maybe they come full circle with Billy involved in this plan. Latinas definitely a fed. She came from outa town and she knew everything about the snitch. 
 

It’s all cops and the cops never get them the whole series and I think they finally do. Like Pope said GET RID OF THAT GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jay never got rid of her. 
 

and she’s gonna tie it all together. You are so smart. See Js dumb ass trying to be cute and screw his brothers over probably tied it all together with that transfer the wire and I bet when he said his brothers are murderers and criminals she probably recorded that and will play it for him it all makes sense. 
 

One more thing for you. Why did Billy randomly show up?????? Is he working with the feds?????? Maybe he was trying to free his son and tell him to get out the best way he can? Did he bug the bar? 
 

and then Deeran accused his worker of stealing maybe that was a fed. Deran not trusting the right people. I think that’s the misdirection. 

I have very little faith the writers will give AK fans a farewell episode to remember ... let alone tie up the plethora of loose ends.  The whole production of AK, especially since the flashbacks started, has just been lazy, lazy, lazy.  

Even the casting between the young vs. today's main characters, as someone posted earlier, wasn't given much, if any, thought.  Young Smurf (Leila George) doesn't look anything like Ellen Barkin, not to mention the obvious frame difference.  Barkin is average height w/ a petite frame, whereas George is 5'9", which is tall for a woman.  The only similarity is the blonde hair.  Fortunately, George is an excellent actress.  (The FX series "The Old Man" did an excellent job with its casting of young vs. old characters.)  Anyway, the miscasting in AK has driven me crazy since the flashbacks started, which just adds fuel to my laziness claim.

I do believe, or at least hope, my "Fed Sting" theory holds true and that Penny, Vince (the biker dude), the two bar owners, the guy who made the surfboard (and possibly the cop who busted Pope) are all undercover Feds who have been working the Military Base heist. How in depth the writers will go w/ my theory, I don't know.  In fact, the writers may have just thrown most of those characters in just for filler's sake and their "big" reveal will be that Penny is Morgan's daughter.  Who knows with this show?

I keep gravitating back to the convenient store and restaurant robberies.  Especially with all the security cameras nowadays, how hard would it be to "immediately" track down a couple in an open-top jeep with a baby in the back seat; or, two very large, easily-describable, men on motorcycles?  It's not like Craig, Ren or Vince went into hiding afterward.  No, they all just went about their merry way as if nothing happened.  But, again, who knows with this show?  

I will say this much, Pope cannot get away to live happily ever after with Amy.  As much as we may have come to sympathize with his character, Pope is a multi-murderer.  I think he would rather die than go back to prison, though.  So, for Pope's sake, I hope he's able to finally "rest in peace" without killing anyone else in the process (unless it's J).  I wouldn't mind if Pope takes out J, which may or may not be his own son.  (I know I wrote earlier that Pope isn't J's dad, but the "original sin" comment has me rethinking the possibility.)

J, another multi-murderer who strongly suggested taking out a child (Lena) to cover his tracks, has to be "put down."  J is pure evil.  I'm certain J either gave mom Julia the fatal heroin dose, or did nothing to try to save her life -- He either made it happen or let it happen.  J's a true psychopath and the most sinister of them all.

Billy's not a snitch ... but, I was surprised that he wanted to perform actual work and cover the bar for Deran.  If we do see Billy in the final episode, I hope it's because he's trying to help his son escape.  But Billy is Billy.  He may have even been the one who stole the money.  Will Billy find redemption?  Did he agree to help the Feds in an effort to protect his son?

Only Craig and Deran can make it out alive.  They're the only two who haven't killed anyone.  Their lives were doomed from the start, and they don't know any other way to live ... other than Smurf's way.  Craig tried to go straight and sober, but it didn't last long.  I'll give it to Deran for opening the bar.  At least he tried and succeeded.  And then we found out this season that Smurf prevented Deran from winning and being on the surfing circuit so she could keep him home to do her "jobs."  Poor kid.  If anyone should get away, it should be Deran.  

Sadly, I fear the writers are going to give us more of a "soap opera" finale with who's whose daddy instead of a crime-based ending.  Regardless, I think the final episode will leave us all disappointed.

[Craigcodybazhate]

Wow clap clap clap Mo bird thank you for that compelling commentary. Auntie thank you to for pointing out a little foggie on that episode. Thank you again. 
 

That’s what I hate about Smurf a certified POS!!!!!! Let’s put this in perspective all her sons she’s held back. 
 

Pope looked like he was going to be a big skater xgames pro. Looked like he was going to be very religious. Looked like he was going to be a good guy. 
 

She took two things away from him that gave him peace to turn him into a monster. Smurf had to have her own son be her hitman. 
 

Julia wanted to go to school a top school be normal work at a mall. She prevented that wanted her to work on jobs. 
 

Deran was gonna be a pro surfer with a lot of potential she fixed the judging. 
 

What a scammer what an evil troll. She can never be a character you root for. She’s a villain. Smurf inflicted her pain of how she grew up on her kids and that’s unfortunate. 
 

for all I know Craig was on his way to being a great football player until she messed that up. 
 

so we have to go into Julia’s shoes and I know I go long with this. But when y’all say his uncles never helped her. Julia didn’t want J anywhere near smurf because of that. She wanted J to go to school he was on the path until he got to Smurf. Julia had an addiction and that’s unfortunate. She couldn’t shake it and that was all cause of her mom. I saw it. The girl started on weed. She got in the streets and got to heroin. 
 

the writers showed her in the streets it was so quick but in the time they had they just wanted to show you basically teach you. Julia got in the streets and got on heroin. Probably partying couch surfing and doing heroin. Everybody turned thier back on her including Pope. 
 

This is the sad part of the show. Craig and Derain should survive and make it out. Will they? 

[Auntie Anxiety]

33 minutes ago, MoeBird said:

Sadly, I fear the writers are going to give us more of a "soap opera" finale with who's whose daddy instead of a crime-based ending.  Regardless, I think the final episode will leave us all disappointed.

I have very low expectations. The writing has been shit since the middle of the show’s run. It’s not like suddenly the writers will perform magic and pay attention to details and plot holes and wrap things up with plausibility. Frankly, I think they gave up a long time ago. I’ll be watching, but I don’t expect much.

[Craigcodybazhate]

This show has a very dark side. The tone they take with sexual abuse. Smurf physically abused those kids and sexually they always insinuate that. By the way she acts with Baz Pope and Craig. This protagonist is a disgusting character. You can watch the show and see that. 
 

The Julia vs Smurf is about abuse. They won’t say it. But Julia is the character who wants to do it right. Protect those kids.   
 

See y’all see this Hulk character in Pope. He’s a abused confused character who doesn’t know what’s what. 
 

Julia is his protector. That’s the conflict. She comes out and tells Baz you see how she likes Pope like that. The writers saying it without saying it. Baz knew but turns a blind eye cause he wants shelter. They all knew it. 
 

But the abused one will do what he can to protect his brothers  so when smurf says catherine is snitching. She knows what she’s doing. She’s unleashing the pit bull. Popes kills were all about protecting his brothers. Cause he was about Catherine always helped her and Smurf’s wanted Lena to be her daughter Smurf took Lena away from catherine it was all jealousy and evil. 
 

J has no idea his mom Julia was trying to protect her from smurf. And after seeing the way Smurf’s threw her out you know why. 

Edited August 27, 2022 by Craigcodybazhate

[Craigcodybazhate]

A lot of the writing has been suspect because of new Showrunners. That usually happens with shows new showrunners take over in the middle of a show and then the writing sucks. I’m not sure but I don’t think John Wells is still involved with the show.  

Early part of the show was more cops and robbers this has been more about adding different characters. Craigs battle with substance. Giving J more arcs. 
 

maybe they thought they could do a spin-off with early smurf and then the studio told them something else and they had to throw it all together. 

Look I love this show but I think TNT are doing different shows which I don’t Agree with. More marvel super hero stuff. I like more gangster stuff like this. 

[Chick2Chic]

On 8/27/2022 at 6:42 PM, MoeBird said:

They're the only two who haven't killed anyone. 

Didn't Craig kill a few folks who kidnapped Nick?