Scarlett45 December 6, 2022 Share December 6, 2022 29 minutes ago, possibilities said: I loved that they were saying yes and no at the same time to some of those tropes. Yes, there's pain. But there's also joy. No, we're not the same. Yes, we're the same sometimes. No, we're not aspiring to total assimilation. Yes, we can get along. No, not always. For a movie with such wild comedic swings (like the ride at the museum) it was also fairly nuanced. Even such things as the "sell-out" being the one who actually got the funding for the "too crazy" museum, and the fact that the so-called "sell-out" was actually doing wills for gay people. It's hilarious because I've seen those kinds of tensions within the community-- who's "a true freak" vs "a passing person" and how crazy that kind of division is, but it happens. So the movie exploited all of those fissures while not actually taking sides. I thought it was the funniest movie I've seen in a long time, and maybe ever. But I really think it depends on how much of this kind of thing you've seen in real life, whether it comes across as funny vs confusing or hard to understand. And yes, people do get excited about being on a film where all the actors are LGBTQ. It's rare. It's a relief. If you're always in the position to be the majority, you have no idea what it feels like not to be, and how exciting it feels to suddenly have an opportunity to feel what that is like. I didnt quote your entire post, but thank you for sharing your perspective with us, and I as a member of another minority group (of course I am not saying that my ADOS experience is the same as being LGBTQ+) I noticed and understood the bolded (mine) you mentioned above. 6 minutes ago, starri said: It's hard to put this into words, but that seemed very incredibly realistic and perhaps why it wasn't commented on more fully. The default assumption with a guy who looks like Aaron wouldn't go for a guy who wasn't at least also a 9, to use your classifications. It can be brutal on the dating/hookup apps for the same reason. While I would never compare it to what I know women go through, there are horrible issues with body image issues amongst queer men. I belong to a Facebook group for gay male doctors, and two years ago when the vaccine was first being rolled out to health care workers, people began posting selfies of their shoulder after the shot. A lot of the guys who didn't look like they spend a mind-numbing about of time in the gym actually prefaced their photos by apologizing for not looking like the others. It was some of the most toxic bullshit I've seen in my life. Which actually does dovetail into something else else I liked: the movie didn't kink-shame. It didn't body-shame (Guy Branum's character was allowed to be sexual and the movie was willing to acknowledge there would be guys who'd be into him). It didn't shame the throuple. And even Harvey Fierstein hitting on Bobby and Aaron was treated as funny, not horrifying. Thank you. I did notice that there were men of different ages and body shapes in the film that were allowed to be sexual and it wasn't "a joke", while still being comedy, i.e. steroids into Dumbledore! 🤣I know to my eye, Bobby and Aaron were both very conventionally good looking, so I didn't know what the big deal was with Bobby not thinking Aaron was attracted to him. It reminds me of a convo I had with a friend about P-Valley (tv show not a movie), and how a female character was absolutely drop dead gorgeous but was bullied over her looks because of how toxic colorism can be in the ADOS community. 2 Link to comment
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