AntFTW April 17, 2022 Share April 17, 2022 Jenard doesn't die... bummer. Junior Flynn hits the Serbs, Serbs retaliates, Papa Flynn retaliates, Serbs retaliates, Papa Flynn blames Tommy, Tommy hits the Irish hitman, Flynns hit Tommy, and in the end nobody dies except Liliana. We don't hear from the crooked cop... what a waste Claudia promises dahlia to everyone! YOU GET DAHLIA! YOU GET DAHLIA! EVERYBODY GETS DAHLIA! The look of disgust on Tommy face when he says "MA?!?!" when goes to the grandma's house and sees Kate was hilarious. --- Blaxton: the streets ain't change. Yo bitch ass changed ... Trying to turn your life around, you got soft. That's what Jenard can't abide by, nigga. Yo ass ain't tryna catch no more bodies. Diamond: You right, I don't. Me: You don't what? --- 1 Link to comment
mxc90 April 17, 2022 Share April 17, 2022 (edited) Fuck this book! The one damn character I liked, they killed off. Why was she the only one to go??? They couldn't at least give me Jenard and Claudia to balance it out?!!!!!???! Did cancer take a break or forget to kill Walter? He hasn't coughed or passed out in a few episodes. Where the hell was Liliana hiding to sneak out the SUV? She didn't drive there as the people in front would have heard the vehicle arrive, but she got out of the driver's side. So she was there hiding the entire time. Very odd sequence of events. And all that time, Liliana could have been quiet, sneaking out to free JP (as no one was guarding him), he could have run away or stayed to join the gun play. Nope! Her only agenda was to get involved in the second shootout and skip the first! The direction for the shootout was atrocious. Tommy and Diamond are standing in front of a firing squad and bullets magically go around them. Then, they clearly see Tommy's gun jam and only Victor gives chase but for some odd reason Paulie has to hold Walter back so they leave Vic alone to go after him. Let us just hear Walter yell a few times "Victor" to make him look like he is the concerned parent!!!!!!! This writing is so bad! Claudia knew the truth about Gloria but waited until bodies dropped and the very last moment to finally speak up to Vic and confront Da. She sucks!!!!!!!!!! Tommy should have blasted her the moment they came to "the obvious to everyone, except them" decision their business arrangement was done. Gee Tommy! Did he really need to ask Liliana who shot her in order to get revenge? Just take a pick from Walter, Claudia or Paulie. They were the last ones standing. Tommy could have shot all of them and rested comfortably knowing that her killer was in that group. I would have added the CBI soldiers but somehow they magically disappeared from the scene. Some reputation for the mighty CBI gangsters. Tommy had some dumb tactical plans! First. He chooses to ambush Vic and the Horsemen from a lab that has no back door to escape if it went bad. He and the two Serbs were pinned in the room. But Vic and the last Horseman just tucked tail and ran. They conveniently made Tommy look good. So the only time the Serbs can stay alive and win is when they are fighting on Tommy's side. Second. Tommy's and Diamond's plan to show up in front of Walter and the others was so stupid. No one questioned how Diamond knew the meet location and brought Tommy there? Also, why would the Flynns hold off shooting both of them as they don't care about Diamond to spare his life. Did Walter forget he's a racist? That main horseman couldn't even get a kiss from Claudia to get the potent Dahlia high? He had to take a hit from the vial like a "friend zoned" chump. I thought Jenard had the backing of one-eyed Cousin Buddy from Gary when he told him to get ready a few episodes back. Nope, Jenard decided to go to the Serbs and Walter. Just a convenient to get him with Walter and the others in the final scene. If Mirkovic thought CBI was also in on the hit of his men and took his pipeline, why didn't he ever attempt any pay back on Jernard and Diamond? They made this character so useless! He can easily be talked into anything from Tommy and Jenard. Not even an appearance from useless Seamus in the finale. Waste of time having him on this season. This season brought the great Flynn/Serb war. It's a shame we missed it! Great! Our useless FBI agents are back from licking their wounds from Claudia. How they still can't identify the "mysterious" Tommy with a clear picture of him and all their sophisticated face recognition equipment is unbelievable!!!! They have IDs of all the other players on their big board except him! And how do they know Tommy isn't a Flynn or a Serb? They just happen to know the entire roster in both organizations! Tommy is just a loner, white boy to them. The show made sure to put Blacks and Latinos in high positions in the FBI and DEA. They better do something next season to not make them look so stupid. But I won't hold my breath!! Was Sullivan's appearance necessary? Just so we can get the announcement Medina is now in charge! I guess she was on to show where they are in the Book's 2 and 4 timeline. Now we connect Blanca with Books 2 and 4. What is more important to her: take down Tariq or the action in Chicago? Jenard couldn't be bothered in killing his brother so he just goes to the corner store to get nasty takeout, takes a few bites and tries to call Blaxton 4 times. Then he hopped in the car and tossed the food on the passenger's side so it could spill all over in the plastic bag. See ya Blaxton! The show couldn't bother to show how Diamond got the jump on you! He just magically caught him by surprise off screen when he was away from his team and took him prisoner. We have been told CBI is large so there would be loyal people there to Diamond, so why did he need to get one bodyguard, loaned from some anonymous benefactor in order to eat peacefully at the diner? And where was this bodyguard to help put in the end? Shootout at a construction site wasn't part of the loan agreement? Why would Claudia immediately trust a word what Jenard said to put it together that Walter was lying. How did Claudia know where to kidnap JP? Was JP that dumb enough to give the chemist his and Miriam's address? Doubt Claudia found "JP" from a Google search. Claudia and the lone Horseman just happened to know the chemist was leaving town and the exact time to get her. Shouldn't the chemist have confirmed that it was the car service to pick her up? The real car service she called was late to arrive (Can't find good service in Chicago). I guess we'll see her next season cooking for Claudia. Poor girl is a Yo-Yo! Chemist was leaving the city in style though, she must have spent all her drug money to purchase those bags. The way JP tore up Miriam's house to renovate, he should have stumbled on the money a long time ago. Funny as Jenard was the only one to question Tommy, JP and Dmac's relationship! Is Dmac's mom dead for her to not have gotten called to the hospital?! The Kate and JP meet and hug was cringe! But they seemed to be having a good time next to Dmac later in the hospital. Next season, will they go deeper in explaining why she left him at two days old or just drop it? Kate really thought Dmac was going to look like her? She must have taken Dahlia before arriving at the hospital! Kate to Tommy: "You killed one brother, you're here to kill another?" If she thinks he killed Ghost, I would assume she would have had some strong anger the moment she saw Tommy. She did love Ghost! After all, he left her a large sum of money. Nah. She was chill!!!!! Did that poor girl have to put her mouth on "it" to trick the horseman? She was probably expecting Tommy to be there earlier so she wouldn't have to drop to her knees and take the ruse that far. What happened to the left ear of the actor playing Jenard? Looked mangled. Edited April 17, 2022 by mxc90 2 Link to comment
AntFTW April 17, 2022 Share April 17, 2022 41 minutes ago, mxc90 said: Fuck this book! I was gonna start with this and a "what the fuck did I just watch?" but I thought it was too strong 😂 Thanks for saying it for both of us. 1 Link to comment
AntFTW April 17, 2022 Share April 17, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, mxc90 said: Did cancer take a break or forget to kill Walter? He hasn't coughed or passed out in a few episodes. The writers has decided that the character doesn't have cancer anymore. 7 hours ago, mxc90 said: Where the hell was Liliana hiding to sneak out the SUV? She didn't drive there as the people in front would have heard the vehicle arrive, but she got out of the driver's side. So she was there hiding the entire time. Very odd sequence of events. And all that time, Liliana could have been quiet, sneaking out to free JP (as no one was guarding him), he could have run away or stayed to join the gun play. Nope! Her only agenda was to get involved in the second shootout and skip the first! It was so weird. This woman comes from behind with this big loud gun and shoots someone with this very loud gun... and nobody really pays attention. 7 hours ago, mxc90 said: The direction for the shootout was atrocious. Tommy and Diamond are standing in front of a firing squad and bullets magically go around them. Then, they clearly see Tommy's gun jam and only Victor gives chase but for some odd reason Paulie has to hold Walter back so they leave Vic alone to go after him. Let us just hear Walter yell a few times "Victor" to make him look like he is the concerned parent!!!!!!! This writing is so bad! It is!!! The dialogue makes no sense! 😂 7 hours ago, mxc90 said: Second. Tommy's and Diamond's plan to show up in front of Walter and the others was so stupid. No one questioned how Diamond knew the meet location and brought Tommy there? Also, why would the Flynns hold off shooting both of them as they don't care about Diamond to spare his life. Right! Their plan was to be exposed and vulnerable just long enough to be shot in the ass. What's to stop them from just killing them both on sight? Nothing! 7 hours ago, mxc90 said: If Mirkovic thought CBI was also in on the hit of his men and took his pipeline, why didn't he ever attempt any pay back on Jernard and Diamond? They made this character so useless! He can easily be talked into anything from Tommy and Jenard. I'm confused at why he chose to do business with Tommy at all. He knows Tommy, CBI and the Flynns took his pipeline and killed many in his crew. Why would he even entertain them instead of killing each of them which Jenard and Tommy gave him the space and opportunity to do? 7 hours ago, mxc90 said: Claudia and the lone Horseman just happened to know the chemist was leaving town and the exact time to get her. Shouldn't the chemist have confirmed that it was the car service to pick her up? The real car service she called was late to arrive (Can't find good service in Chicago). I guess we'll see her next season cooking for Claudia. Poor girl is a Yo-Yo! Chemist was leaving the city in style though, she must have spent all her drug money to purchase those bags. ...and that house. Very nice house she was leaving from. 7 hours ago, mxc90 said: Funny as Jenard was the only one to question Tommy, JP and Dmac's relationship! It seemed like he just discovered that 1 + 1 = 2. He had an AHA moment. "so Tommy is DMac uncle?" 😂 Yes Jenard, that means Tommy is DMac's uncle. Good job! 7 hours ago, mxc90 said: Kate to Tommy: "You killed one brother, you're here to kill another?" If she thinks he killed Ghost, I would assume she would have had some strong anger the moment she saw Tommy. She did love Ghost! After all, he left her a large sum of money. Nah. She was chill!!!!! She must have blown it already if she's searching her mother's house for money. Edited April 18, 2022 by AntFTW 1 Link to comment
mxc90 April 17, 2022 Share April 17, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, AntFTW said: The writers has decided that the character doesn't have cancer anymore. But the writers decided to still keep him an asshole. So he's not fully changed! At least they got something right. 2 hours ago, AntFTW said: It was so weird. This woman comes from behind with this big loud gun and shoots someone with this very loud gun... and nobody really pays attention. Unreal what happened. And it had to be Claudia to get the drop on her. Can't stand her! 2 hours ago, AntFTW said: Right! Their plan was to be exposed and vulnerable just long enough to be shot in the ass. What's to stop them from just killing them both on sight? Nothing! I have no idea what they were thinking. Diamond really thought racist Walter would care about passing Jenard to him in an exchange for Tommy? I can't take it anymore with this bullshit! I surrender! 2 hours ago, AntFTW said: I'm confused at why he chose to do business with Tommy at all. He knows Tommy, CBI and the Flynns took his pipeline and killed many in his crew. Why would he even entertain them instead of killing each of them which Jenard and Tommy gave him the space and opportunity to do? See comment above about "Bad Writing"! 2 hours ago, AntFTW said: It seemed like he just discovered that 1 + 1 = 2. He had an AHA moment. "so Tommy is DMac uncle?" 😂 Yes Jenard, that means Tommy is DMac's uncle. Good job! Claudia should have rewarded him with a Scooby snack!! 2 hours ago, AntFTW said: She must have blown it already if she's searching her mother's house for money. That's a lot of coke to be spent on. Did Ghost not foresee where his money was going to? He sure knew Tariq was going to end up in jail and had a note prepared but he didn't have a letter ready for Kate when her nose would eventually go dry? Edited April 17, 2022 by mxc90 1 Link to comment
AntFTW April 17, 2022 Share April 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, mxc90 said: See comment above about "Bad Writing"! ...and that's why we don't remember character names. 🤣 Link to comment
mxc90 April 17, 2022 Share April 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, AntFTW said: ...and that's why we don't remember character names. 🤣 I want to forget this season! 1 Link to comment
AWhittle April 17, 2022 Share April 17, 2022 The long posting above was spot on... A great deal of thought in the review. There is plot armor as Tommy survives EVERYTHING, and the characters who will make it to next season. For all their contempt for people of color, Walter and the other Irish and white characters never used the N word. Television. The show has its symbols of the life: huge amount of cash in duffel bags, luxurious upper class apartments/real estate, dance clubs. models, open drugs, guns, urban gangs, hip hop music, organized cartels, nude sex scenes... The military style Irish Four Horsemen from Dublin... somehow I feel they could have done more and they were taken out a little too conveniently. I am surprised even from the first episode when Tommy came into town and was one step ahead of everybody else, no one really looked to get intel on this white guy in this blue Mustang with so much drug dealing experience taking the streets by storm. Even the FBI didn't know. 1 Link to comment
AntFTW April 18, 2022 Share April 18, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, mxc90 said: Unreal what happened. And it had to be Claudia to get the drop on her. Can't stand her! Everytime she says "Da", I cringe 🤮 Edited April 18, 2022 by AntFTW 1 Link to comment
Scarlett45 April 18, 2022 Author Share April 18, 2022 10 hours ago, mxc90 said: What happened to the left ear of the actor playing Jenard? Looked mangled. Likely a burn or a birth defect. I’ve seen that type of ear formation before, it’s something people are just born with- women that have it often wear their hair down to cover it. Link to comment
Scarlett45 April 18, 2022 Author Share April 18, 2022 8 hours ago, mxc90 said: I have no idea what they were thinking. Diamond really thought racist Walter would care about passing Jenard to him in an exchange for Tommy? I can't take it anymore with this bullshit! I surrender! I agree. I want to like Diamond, I do! (He’s certainly nice to look at!) But dude, you’ve been gone 15yrs, and you know you can’t trust Walter- what are you thinking? The only things that I understand about this book are 1. The racism, 2. The geography because I live in Chicago!!!! 5 hours ago, AWhittle said: I am surprised even from the first episode when Tommy came into town and was one step ahead of everybody else, no one really looked to get intel on this white guy in this blue Mustang with so much drug dealing experience taking the streets by storm. Even the FBI didn't know. This also makes no sense. People involved in this life at high levels KNOW each other, or at least know “of” each other. This is the 21st century- everyone has a camera in their pocket. No one in CBI (or the Flynn org or whomever) texted ppl they knew in NYC with a photo of Tommy and said “who is this dude??” Look- I like Joseph Sikora, I think he’s a great actor. I also like the actors playing Diamond and JP- they are good. But this writing is AWFUL. This book could be saved if we had a four point storyline- Claudia & Vic and their split from their Dad, Diamond rebuilding his thing, the law enforcement characters, Tommy finding his way and his new family with JP and Darnell, all of those points intersecting could make a good story. Someone please fix Claudia’s hair and makeup, also bring back the chemist who I liked too. Make Vic stop being so STUPID and wimpy goodness (Claudia is stupid too but I at least see potential there.) RIP Lilianna. I’ll see you guys this summer for Power Book III season 2, which is the best book by far. 1 Link to comment
AntFTW April 18, 2022 Share April 18, 2022 31 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said: Likely a burn or a birth defect. I’ve seen that type of ear formation before, it’s something people are just born with- women that have it often wear their hair down to cover it. I looked at pictures and interviews of the actor, and I didn’t see it in any of the materials I saw. Link to comment
Scarlett45 April 18, 2022 Author Share April 18, 2022 1 minute ago, AntFTW said: I looked at pictures and interviews of the actor, and I didn’t see it in any of the materials I saw. I’ve noticed it in every episode- could be that he doesn’t like to be photographed from that angle? Link to comment
AntFTW April 18, 2022 Share April 18, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said: I’ve noticed it in every episode- could be that he doesn’t like to be photographed from that angle? I went back to episode 1 and it does appear that way in episode 1 (because I actually never noticed before) but then I looked at an interview of the actor talking about the show and it looks like a regularly formed ear… so now I’m confused. Edited April 18, 2022 by AntFTW Link to comment
Scarlett45 April 18, 2022 Author Share April 18, 2022 7 hours ago, AntFTW said: I went back to episode 1 and it does appear that way in episode 1 (because I actually never noticed before) but then I looked at an interview of the actor talking about the show and it looks like a regularly formed ear… so now I’m confused. Because I don’t feel like getting ready for work I looked. That’s just how his ear is formed, he’s just good at hiding it in photos/promo shots. Not that he has to, nothing wrong with it, but I’m sure it’s a habit. If you look at the top photo you can see his left ear (so our right side) doesn’t have the usual folds. 1 Link to comment
Yogisbooboo64 April 18, 2022 Share April 18, 2022 (edited) I don’t feel like sharing how many times Jenard said the N-word, ‘cause a bitch is devastated right now! Of all the people to kill, they had to kill Liliana?! Not Walter’s coughing ass, or his p-whipped son, Jenard or hell, even Paulie?! Ya’ll took Tommy’s most loyal soldier?! During the shootout, I literally was biting my nails, saying ‘be careful, Liliana!’ When Claudia (who is now officially dead to me!) shot her, I scared my cat from screaming so loud. I was right there with Tommy, willing her to live….hell, even shed a tear or two. And now she’s gone. To say I’m going to be bitter about this for a long time is an understatement….not even Kate finally returning and forcefully insinuating herself back into Tommy’s life will make the hurt go away. RIP, Liliana (stalks out) Edited April 18, 2022 by Yogisbooboo64 2 Link to comment
Scarlett45 April 18, 2022 Author Share April 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, Yogisbooboo64 said: I don’t feel like sharing how many times Jenard said the N-word, ‘cause a bitch is devastated right now! Of all the people to kill, they had to kill Liliana?! Not Walter’s coughing ass, or his p-whipped son, Jenard or hell, even Paulie?! Ya’ll took Tommy’s most loyal soldier?! During the shootout, I literally was biting my nails, saying ‘be careful, Liliana!’ When Claudia (who is now officially dead to me!) shot her, I scared my cat from screaming so loud. I was right there with Tommy, willing her to live….hell, even shed a tear or two. And now she’s gone. To say I’m going to be bitter about this for a long time is an understatement….not even Kate finally returning and forcefully insinuating herself back into Tommy’s life will make the hurt go away. RIP, Liliana (stalks out) Liliana was a real one. But I get why they killed her- this is Power, well loved characters die on the regular. We needed to create real emotional stakes for Tommy since they got renewed for a second season. Claudia needs to watch herself. 1 Link to comment
Yogisbooboo64 April 18, 2022 Share April 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said: Liliana was a real one. But I get why they killed her- this is Power, well loved characters die on the regular. We needed to create real emotional stakes for Tommy since they got renewed for a second season. Claudia needs to watch herself. But, but....couldn't you have imagined it? Tommy, Lil, JP and Diamond against everyone?! Fucked up a perfectly good foursome, I'ma need a few minutes. 3 Link to comment
Scarlett45 April 18, 2022 Author Share April 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, Yogisbooboo64 said: But, but....couldn't you have imagined it? Tommy, Lil, JP and Diamond against everyone?! Fucked up a perfectly good foursome, I'ma need a few minutes. This feels natural. Tommy respects Diamond and vice versa. I do wish they had developed Diamond more. I don't know much about him, other than he's nice to look at and didnt want to kill his own brother (which of course is a good thing). I feel like I know more about Jernard and I don't like him. JP gives him family and ties to a legit business to clean the money. Why did Kate come back though?? UGH. Link to comment
Yogisbooboo64 April 18, 2022 Share April 18, 2022 Tommy and Kate's relationship cracks me up....they may cuss each other out but deeeeeeeep down, I'm sure they care about the other. Link to comment
Scarlett45 April 18, 2022 Author Share April 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Yogisbooboo64 said: Tommy and Kate's relationship cracks me up....they may cuss each other out but deeeeeeeep down, I'm sure they care about the other. Kate is a horrid person and mother, but of course Tommy cares about her. He wouldn't be so hurt if he still didnt care. I don't think Kate cares about him though- she's only back cause she needs money, and someone else to use. She was fine to kick Tommy to the curb when she had her inheritance from Ghost. Link to comment
Yogisbooboo64 April 18, 2022 Share April 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said: Kate was fine to kick Tommy to the curb when she had her inheritance from Ghost. This is true....heiffa must have blown through that inheritance like a tornado for her to destroy her mother's house, thinking there was $$ in it. 1 1 Link to comment
Joimiaroxeu April 18, 2022 Share April 18, 2022 (edited) That was brutal the way Tommy took the first Irish hitter out. The poor guy didn't even get his happy ending. 😏 Oh, okay, Diamond knows how to take care of business. Bye, Blaxton. You shouldn't have been so obvious Meh, it's Kate. Lock up everything. Jenard has a nice place. Straight out of Town & Country. 🙄 Tommy, JP, and Darnell all have Kate's chin. How easy are the Serbs if Jenard was able talk them off of their deal with Tommy? Pssht, seems like those guys go whichever way the wind blows. Heh, Tommy and Diamond created a circular firing squad with the Flynns, Jenard, and the CBI crew. But why would they go to the meet just with handguns? Guess they were counting on Liliana to take everyone out from the rear. Oh geez, Liliana. Why was she not wearing Kevlar? People out here acting like they're bulletproof. "He's like a ghost." Lol, not really. Crap, if Blanca goes to Chicago that'll be even more mess. Isn't she going to be in conflict with the FBI or will she quit the DEA and join them next? How did we get to the end of the season with Walter still alive? How? What does it take to kill that guy because apparently a critical illness isn't enough. Quote I’ll see you guys this summer for Power Book III season 2, which is the best book by far. I like PB III, mainly for Raq. PB IV needs some tightening up plot-wise but I don't rank it much below PB III. Tommy and Raq are two of the most charismatic criminals on TV right now IMO. Good job, 50. Edited April 18, 2022 by Joimiaroxeu 1 Link to comment
Sycophant4Lease April 19, 2022 Share April 19, 2022 (edited) On 4/18/2022 at 12:06 PM, Joimiaroxeu said: That was brutal the way Tommy took the first Irish hitter out. The poor guy didn't even get his happy ending. 😏 Oh, okay, Diamond knows how to take care of business. Bye, Blaxton. You shouldn't have been so obvious Meh, it's Kate. Lock up everything. Jenard has a nice place. Straight out of Town & Country. 🙄 Tommy, JP, and Darnell all have Kate's chin. How easy are the Serbs if Jenard was able talk them off of their deal with Tommy? Pssht, seems like those guys go whichever way the wind blows. Heh, Tommy and Diamond created a circular firing squad with the Flynns, Jenard, and the CBI crew. But why would they go to the meet just with handguns? Guess they were counting on Liliana to take everyone out from the rear. Oh geez, Liliana. Why was she not wearing Kevlar? People out here acting like they're bulletproof. "He's like a ghost." Lol, not really. Crap, if Blanca goes to Chicago that'll be even more mess. Isn't she going to be in conflict with the FBI or will she quit the DEA and join them next? How did we get to the end of the season with Walter still alive? How? What does it take to kill that guy because apparently a critical illness isn't enough. I like PB III, mainly for Raq. PB IV needs some tightening up plot-wise but I don't rank it much below PB III. Tommy and Raq are two of the most charismatic criminals on TV right now IMO. Good job, 50. Agreed. But, although I know how she turns out and eventually ends up, I truly love "young" Jukebox. Edited April 19, 2022 by Sycophant4Lease 2 Link to comment
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