Do You Consider Yourself A Feminist?: Why Or Why Not?

[Dimity]

4 minutes ago, Anela said:

ReevDrummond is also one of those bloggers turned food bloggers, who acted like they were simple ranchers, when I think her husband’s family are multi-millionaires.  

No different really than people like Ina Garten and Martha Stewart.  Women who have the luxury to enjoy cooking because they choose to not because they have to.  I've always said if I ever get rich one of my priorities is to hire a chef - hell I'm not fancy a plain old cook will do the trick!

[Ohiopirate02]

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

No different really than people like Ina Garten and Martha Stewart.  Women who have the luxury to enjoy cooking because they choose to not because they have to.  I've always said if I ever get rich one of my priorities is to hire a chef - hell I'm not fancy a plain old cook will do the trick!

The only real difference between Ree and Ina and Martha is the fact that Ree tries to hide how wealthy her husband's family is. Ina built her empire out in the Hamptons. She has never hidden the wealth that makes her lifestyle possible. Ditto for Martha. While Ree wants to pretend she and her family are from a more humble stock. Of course part of that is because Ree and her husband do not want to draw attention as to how his family became rich. Not after David Grann published Killers of the Flower Moon. 

[Dimity]

11 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

While Ree wants to pretend she and her family are from a more humble stock.

I'm not a big fan but my sister was and I never had that impression.  She has made no secret of her father having been a doctor and her growing up very comfortably off.  The few shows I've seen of Pioneer Woman, well you'd have to be an idiot not to realize nobody lives on a ranch like that and is worrying about how to pay the bills!

[tearknee]

Society still hasn't caught up (and as "Ask Amy" on feminist dot com found out) some women think feminism means that forcing cross-dressing and deliberate emasculation won't lead to violence from their sons' classmates and so-called "friends".

Oh, and this happens, too:

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/rebecca-joynes-paedophile-sexual-abuse-29476607

[EtheltoTillie]

I believe Martha's empire is much bigger than either Drummond's or Ina's.  Martha didn't start out wealthy, but she became well to do by her initial career in the stock market and her husband's business.  But she started her catering business as a serious enterprise and then she grew it into the magazine and media empire.  I don't think she ever was a person who cooked because she didn't have to.   She was very serious about it as a professional.

[PRgal]

50 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

The only real difference between Ree and Ina and Martha is the fact that Ree tries to hide how wealthy her husband's family is. Ina built her empire out in the Hamptons. She has never hidden the wealth that makes her lifestyle possible. Ditto for Martha. While Ree wants to pretend she and her family are from a more humble stock. Of course part of that is because Ree and her husband do not want to draw attention as to how his family became rich. Not after David Grann published Killers of the Flower Moon. 

Some people hide their wealth because it makes them more approachable or it's more comfortable to them.  Many years ago, I went to a party where one girl said she was going to rent a "slum it" by renting a cheap car to roadtrip with her friends.  I took it as "I don't want to let the world know that I'm 'privileged'"  Or how I felt I had to be really careful letting people know where I went to high school in some situations because I didn't want to be judged.  

[Anela]

55 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I'm not a big fan but my sister was and I never had that impression.  She has made no secret of her father having been a doctor and her growing up very comfortably off.  The few shows I've seen of Pioneer Woman, well you'd have to be an idiot not to realize nobody lives on a ranch like that and is worrying about how to pay the bills!

lol, I really didn't know how much money she had, until I followed a link to a snark forum, years ago, where people mentioned his family. 

 

53 minutes ago, tearknee said:

Society still hasn't caught up (and as "Ask Amy" on feminist dot com found out) some women think feminism means that forcing cross-dressing and deliberate emasculation won't lead to violence from their sons' classmates and so-called "friends".

Oh, and this happens, too:

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/rebecca-joynes-paedophile-sexual-abuse-29476607

But almost all women out here, aren't doing this to boys. And little girls playing dress-up, know nothing about feminism.

[Dimity]

Mothers dressing their boys as girls and "emasculating" them is an actual real problem?  I've no doubt it happens - probably around once in that  proverbial blue moon.  There are actual real issues out there and someone is obsessing over this?  Sheesh.

[PRgal]

24 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Mothers dressing their boys as girls and "emasculating" them is an actual real problem?  I've no doubt it happens - probably around once in that  proverbial blue moon.  There are actual real issues out there and someone is obsessing over this?  Sheesh.

You know what we need to do to fix things?  Start by teaching boys that it's okay to ask for help, that's what.  I was at a meeting about mental health awareness and learned that women are more likely to seek therapy than men.  In fact, men often won't seek group therapy unless it's one that is ESPECIALLY for them.  Even my son, without any direct influence, wouldn't always tell us how he really feels about things.  Heck, he sometimes won't even say he doesn't like what I made for dinner (or breakfast), only that he's "full."  Take this morning for example, I made him toast for breakfast.  He barely had any.  But because he didn't, my dad suggested that he take the toast with him for the drive (my dad drives him to school).  I said that he can't do that, because the school is nut-aware, and that kids who have nuts at breakfast need to brush their teeth before going to school so that there's next to zero chance of causing an allergic reaction.  So instead, I gave him a container of nut-free cereal.  My dad texted me later today to tell me that he ate the entire thing.  I even ASKED if he wanted something else, and he said he didn't!  He didn't want to lose face, I guess.  But this shouldn't be happening.  He should be okay expressing that he wanted cereal when I asked him whether he did.

[Anela]

Gisele Pelicot is my person of the year.  I can’t even imagine being in her situation.  

[Bastet]

2 hours ago, Anela said:

Gisele Pelicot is my person of the year.

The Independent's, too.

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Donald Trump? No. Gisèle Pelicot is the real Person of the Year

It is a case that has shocked the world, but the incredible woman at the heart of it has revealed uncomfortable truths, says Laura Bates. Her bravery has forced us to recognise that men commit violence against women every single day and that such violence is not committed by 'monsters', but by normal-seeming men.

Edited Friday at 08:26 PM by Bastet