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Ichabod Crane: Man Out of Time

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HalcyonDays

HalcyonDays

I don't want Ichabod in modern clothes, but I am glad he found a source for new clothes from his era.

As long as he keeps the coat, boots and hair (and beard) I'm happy. I though the re-enactment "store" was a great idea, actually. Very creative. The show claims that Crane bought lots of clothes from that lady, so it will be interesting to see what he bought (and would be nice to know where he got the money from!)

I did like the shirt he wore, during the skinny jeans scene. It was nice and I don't see why Crane couldn't wear button down shirts, to be honest. And normal jeans/cotton pants. But there is something about the antiquated clothing that works well for him!

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For those of you loving Ichabod, and thusly, Tom Mison, you should run-not-walk to check out his Charles Bingley in Lost in Austen (available at that video website!).  He is by turns a comic goofball, a lovesick puppy, a devastated tragic hero, and finally, a man ahead of his time.  I thought he was amazing in this mini-series, but could hardly believe the same actor was playing Ichabod Crane.

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HalcyonDays

HalcyonDays

For those of you loving Ichabod, and thusly, Tom Mison, you should run-not-walk to check out his Charles Bingley in Lost in Austen (available at that video website!).  He is by turns a comic goofball, a lovesick puppy, a devastated tragic hero, and finally, a man ahead of his time.  I thought he was amazing in this mini-series, but could hardly believe the same actor was playing Ichabod Crane.

 

That's why I've nicknamed him The Chameleon in my head. Depending on his hair, clothes, facial hair, glasses or no, and of course mannerisms/movements etc, he really is unrecognizable. People like Robert DeNiro and Brad Pitt and actors like that, you know it's the actor. Not with Mison. He looks/acts so different all of the time which is good for an actor but not good if they want to get easily recognized.

 

Only with the chameleon-like talent of Mison, can you have an individual wear skinny jeans and a button down shirt - that the guy would wear in real life - and make it look just so wrong...

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HalcyonDays

HalcyonDays

Oh, if only I was 251 years younger...

Or the second Ichabod made it out of Purgatory and was a good guy....

 

Man, I love the Crane outfit to death (the coat is everything) but I swear poor Tom Mison is going to get a really bad chest cold or pneumonia one of these days - his shirts are always so gaping open. Not that I'm complaining, just thinking of his health...

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sinkwriter

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I don't know... I thought it was cute that he found a Revolutionary War reenactor/seamstress to make period-accurate clothing for him. (Too bad she was murdered!)

 

I like when Crane bitches about modern-day clothing. It amuses me.

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RiddleyWalker

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I think it's time he slowly updated his wardrobe. I get that the Revolutionary gear is his trademark but I think he definitely needs to ditch the knee-high boots.

Never! I love those boots! (If he gets rid of them, I'll take them off his hands) I'd love to see him riding like a badass after Headless on a horse with saber in-hand. He might even get a chance to give Abbie a ride ---on the horse I mean…  ;)  Repay the motorcycle ride, you know.

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savinggrace

savinggrace

Never! I love those boots! (If he gets rid of them, I'll take them off his hands) I'd love to see him riding like a badass after Headless on a horse with saber in-hand. He might even get a chance to give Abbie a ride ---on the horse I mean…  ;)

I just keep thinking about how bad his feet must be sweating.. . and the smell.

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RiddleyWalker

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I just keep thinking about how bad his feet must be sweating.. . and the smell.

Yeah, I guess that could be a problem…   Maybe he just needs to get a new pair at the next Revolutionary War reenactment? Maybe Caroline's sister is a shoemaker?

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cynic

cynic

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I want to see Crane's reaction to properly fitting shoes with comfortable modern insoles and arch support.

In Crane's time, I don't think they even made left and right shoes yet. He'll be in nirvana.

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Amethyst

Amethyst

This is why I really hate them killing off Caroline.  Besides being a total sweetheart, it really was a clever way to get around the clothing issue.

 

Ichabod insisting on wearing his revolutionary duds is quite endearing, but as we know, there's no way for him to wear them for weeks on end without them eventually wearing down, and of course, the smell.  Caroline making new clothes allowed him to keep that tie to his past, while wearing something new.  Assuming the show does go on for a time, Ichabod will eventually start wearing modern day clothes, which strips his appeal a bit.  At least with Caroline around they had another way for him to wear what made him comfortable.

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phoenics

phoenics

Bringing this over from the Katrina thread...

Would he?  Having his head cut off doesn't seem to have killed him so far.  Or it killed him (since he's now allergic to daylight) but didn't stop him from functioning as the Horseman.

Well - based on the Sin Eater episode with the Masons and then trying to get Crane to drink the poison - yes, he would have died. Because they were trying to get Crane to die so the blood tie would cease - the blood tie is what was keeping Death alive... so if Crane died, then Headless would too.

That's why Henry wanted to "help" because it would free Death. The blood tie to Crane made Headless/Death have an Achilles Heel.

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ChelseaNH

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But they cut the blood tie and Headless is still doing his thing, so the blood tie wasn't actually keeping Death alive.  More like they kept Death alive because of the blood tie.

 

Regardless, Moloch apparently has had multiple Horsemen of Death, so killing Abraham just means Moloch has to go through the inconvenience of finding another.

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phoenics

phoenics

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I think you've misunderstood. The blood tie wasn't keeping Headless alive - Ichabod being alive was. So, once the blood tie was cut, then the good guys couldn't kill Death/Headless by killing Crane (having him drink the poison).

BEFORE that - if Ichabod died, Headless/Death would have too. That's why the Masons wanted Crane to drink the poison.

That's why the only way to save Crane (from drinking the poison that would kill him and by extension, Headless) was to sever the blood tie, which Henry did. Not to save Crane - but to remove the Achilles Heel from Headless/Death.

So Moloch did mention that he could find another horseman - but up until that point, that wasn't reality. I did wonder at one point before the winter finale if the horseman could inhabit anyone - like demon possession? But I was leaning toward abandoning that idea because it kinda destroys the mythology of the show...

I actually think it was a bad idea for the writers to say that anyone could be a horseman. Because it directly contradicts the importance of the Sin Eater episode. Crane would have died for nothing really - in the end.

The writing on this show has degraded so far it hurts my feelings.

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HalcyonDays

HalcyonDays

But they cut the blood tie and Headless is still doing his thing, so the blood tie wasn't actually keeping Death alive.  More like they kept Death alive because of the blood tie.

 

Regardless, Moloch apparently has had multiple Horsemen of Death, so killing Abraham just means Moloch has to go through the inconvenience of finding another.

 

I think it's more they both were keeping each other conscious. They had the blood tie, and Katrina put Ichabod under. In the pilot they said that they "entombed" the Horseman in the water, so he must of "passed out" when Ichabod was put under. (I am assuming).

 

I thought the Mason's were trying to kill Crane, because the blood tie meant that if Crane died, so would the Horseman. Death couldn't have been killed before Ichabod cut off his head and their blood commingled. After that, yes. But then Henry removed the blood tie, which meant that Headless was no longer vulnerable.

 

Again, that's the way I understand it. WHY a blood tie happened in the first plae is kinda murky - Ichabod mentions that his last thoughts were "If I go, he comes with me", so somehow that tie was created.

 

Now if Katrina and/or the Coven strenghtened the blood tie with magic, to ensure that Headless was vulnerable, that would be nice to know actually.

 

ETA: phoenics got there first.

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DeLurker

DeLurker

Someone refresh my memory:  Crane repeatedly says that Katrina is this powerful witch.  He did not know she was a witch when he went into his 250+ years nap, so what's he basinging this on?  I'll give her putting him into stasis seems impressive*, but not having a general spectrum of witchy powers, I don't know where this would fall on the power spectrum.

 

* Maybe not, because Katrina puts me to sleep on a regular basis.

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HalcyonDays

HalcyonDays

I thought their blood had literally intermingled on the battle field thus linking them when Katrina saved Ichy with her magic.

 

 

Ichabod meets Pre-Headless on the battlefield, they fight, Pre-Headless slashes Ichabod's chest, Crane slices off the head. Both collapse on the ground at the same time, and bleed out. Here their blood mixes together, creating the link, I think.

 

They take Crane to the infirmary, where he is still bleeding to death, and Katrina shows up, holds his hand and says the word no. Reverend Knapp comes over and says it is time, which leads me to believe that they take Crane elsewhere and perform a spell on him to heal the wound/put him to sleep. Crane gets buried, along with now Headless.

 

And I don't believe that it was Katrina only that saved Crane. For something like this, I think it was supposed to be major magic (maybe even dark magic). Some of the coven assisted (Knapp for one), others did not, which is why they kicked her out of the coven in the first place. It's never been fully explained, which is unfortunate. Why were some okay with it, others not (tbh, I think the writers just didn't think it through, changed the narrative)

 

I believe the above should be correct, based on what they showed in the pilot and later on.

 

 

Someone refresh my memory:  Crane repeatedly says that Katrina is this powerful witch.  He did not know she was a witch when he went into his 250+ years nap, so what's he basinging this on?  I'll give her putting him into stasis seems impressive*, but not having a general spectrum of witchy powers, I don't know where this would fall on the power spectrum.

 

* Maybe not, because Katrina puts me to sleep on a regular basis.

 

Absolutely nothing. He's basing it on what words Goffman puts in his mouth, so to speak. See, that's the thing. He doesn't know that she is a powerful witch because he never saw her do magic. He has no idea of what her level of expertise or power is. He just says it, because that is what the writers wrote. There is no evidence of it, and in fact the evidence seems to show her being a WEAK witch.

 

And like I said above, I don't think she was the only one who cast the spell. I think it needed some serious group magic (like the Four who Speak as One all combined their powers to bury Jeremy). Again, if they are going to give us Katrina, these are the story lines that should be written and explained, not CFD.

 

But to answer you question - basically, no he does not know she is powerful, he just says it because the dialogue written for Crane demands he says it, even if there is no factual basis nor evidence behind these words. Kind of like the "highly skilled operative spy" getting caught immediately as she peeks around the corner. What kind of poor pathetic "spying" is this?

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HalcyonDays

HalcyonDays

Actually, Crane is qualified for a lot of stuff. Linguist. Freelance translator. Museum guide. History tutor. English tutor, Music teacher, Editor. Essay Writer (those that get paid to write college/university papers for others).

 

Translator and Tutoring are the most obvious, because he could freelance and offer the services online.

 

And like Delurker said - if Hawley gets him some credentials, he could be a professor, assistant professor, something educational. I still think Tutor, because he likes to teach, but lacks the degrees (right now).

 

And don't let slender body and seemingly delicate nature of Crane fool you. He can do any type of physical labour. He should be used to it. Once his left his cushy family noble home, joining the military was not easy. There was a lot of physical labour required, coupled with those long marches. There would be a huge amount of physical labour that would be required of any person simply living in colonies, that none of us (most likely) have ever experienced. He could work as a butcher, work with horses, do some construction work, lots of stuff he could do, if there is an available job.

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ChelseaNH

ChelseaNH

I was actually thinking about this last night on the drive home.  At his age, getting a job without references could be difficult.  But back in the first season, someone at Oxford(?) vouched for him with Captain Irving.  It was probably connected to the Masons, and frankly they seemed a large enough organization that they shouldn't all have been killed off, but they might have washed their hands of Ichabod once he decided not to commit suicide.

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