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But Ashley never had a problem with Robyn's* or Gizelle's** parents doing for them. The light skinned/biracial*** cast members were all either getting some form of support from their parents or trying to get their kids in the position Candiace was in. When they do it, it's ok but when Candiace does it, its somehow wrong. That's why Ashley looked stupid barking at Candiace that HER children would have houses by the time they were 30. The fact she didn't realize she was saying Dean & Dylan would be the new Candiace in 25 years went straight over Ashley's empty head. *Robyn's mom is still paying her sorority dues. **I assume Gizelle had the same upper middle class upbringing Robyn, Candiace and Katie had but we really don't know much about Gizelle's life. We do know Gizelle mentioned in Season 2 or 3 she wanted her new husband to help buy her mom a house. ***Nobody on the cast had their life financed by their mom like Katie and sadly, Katie's mom will be helping Katie out for the rest of her days.

BRAVO/Andy can't respond to something they don't understand or care about because in their minds all of these people are Black, so what is the issue? BRAVO/Andy are probably thinking colorism never came up with Atlanta or Married to Medicine so what is the big deal and issue with Potomac? Lowkey BRAVO/Andy probably thought Candiace & Wendy were jealous of Gizelle, Robyn, Ashley, etc. because they're "prettier" than Candiace & Wendy without unpacking why they would think that. Gizelle, Robyn & Ashley have a vested interest in pretending they don't benefit from colorism and don't even know what it is when it came to Candiace & Wendy even though they discussed this very issue and how certain cast members benefit from their whiter looking appearance* before Candiace & Wendy joined the show. It's rumored the showrunner Eric was fired (and his IMDb says he worked on RHOP 2019-2023) so whoever is running RHOP now decided to cast brown skinned cast members to shut down the colorism charges. IMO Eric was trying to bleach the cast by trying to get rid of Candiace & Wendy and favoring and focusing on the lighter skinned cast members. He's gone and we don't hear any of that anymore. Wendy knew there was a discussion to be had about colorism and how that impacts perception but she also knew nobody on that cast** had the range to discuss it and that's why she decided to have that discussion outside of BRAVO. She may have proposed some of these ideas to Johns Hopkins and they were like no, which is why she decided to take her courses elsewhere. *Robyn knew full well she benefitted from colorism and uses it to her advantage. Otherwise she wouldn't be rocking the straight blond hair instead of her naturally curly dark hair. It had also been rumored she scoffed at reports of Juan cheating on her with Gabrielle Union because Juan wouldn't go for someone as dark as Gabrielle. **The only other person on the cast who I think could have an honest and intellectual discussion about colorism would be Candiace but she lets her emotions get the better of her every time and that expression of emotion makes it hard for others to receive her message. Wendy knew this and that's why she tried to shut down Candiace discussing colorism at both the season 7 and 8 reunions.

That's what it sounds like from Melissa Gorga's post. Charrisse posted condolences as well. He also allegedly posted a goodbye post on social media too. Hopefully Ray is keeping Karen in the house and away from the bottle.

What is also sad is Ashley has been parenting her mother (IMO). Instead of her mom taking care of her, Ashley's been taking care of her mom and that's the root of her dislike of Candiace...because Candiace's mom can take care of her well into adulthood and Ashley's mother never could. Another reason Ashley needs to get that house in her name in the divorce, free and paid for or move out is when Sheila gets too old and broken down and sick, that bum boyfriend is going to dump her and Ashley may want to move her mom into the house. If the house remains in Michael's control, he may ban Sheila from living there (because the bum boyfriend is going to come back and want to live in the nice house too). At some point I see Ashley moving her mom into her house and if her housing is controlled by Michael, he may block her from doing so on his dime. Michael can afford it. Give Ashley that house free, clear, paid for and in her name and a little child support and move on.

I think Robyn and Ashley were/are holding Gizelle back from being great because Gizelle was fighting their battles and struggling to keep them employed on the show. I think Stacey having the same storyline as Ashley prompted Ashley to actually file so she will have a season 10 storyline. Ashley needs to have that house put in her name as part of the divorce and given to her free and clear. Kangaroo Jack can afford that. Otherwise she needs to find a new place to live because he could be vindictive at any time and put her out of the house like he did her momma and like he did her in Season 2. Ashley has probably already accepted the fact her momma is just going to be a bum until the end of her days. She's 58 years old and she will never change. She's always been a bum and she's always going to be a bum and that's just what it is. At the same time, no child wants to see their mom down and out so Ashley will probably be helping her mom out indefinitely. I think she would've left Michael long ago if it weren't for her mother.

Ashley filed for divorce from Michael yesterday in Arlington. TMZ reported it but I don't do TMZ so I looked it up on the Virginia Court Case information website and an uncontested divorce was filed yesterday in Arlington County.

Actually Ashley and her mom would be a good storyline because it could explain why Ashley is so broke after being on this show for 8-9 years: she's been giving most of her Bravo paycheck to her momma for support. See Ashley loved to taunt Candiace about her mother supporting Candiace but Ashley would change places with Candiace in a heartbeat if Sheila had the ability to support Ashley like Dorothy supported Candiace. Why isn't Sheila's bum boyfriend working? Why is she having to work 12 hour days? How much of Ashley's paycheck is going towards supporting Sheila, Sheila's bum boyfriend and Ashley's little sister? Does Ashley's brother pitch in and help? What does Uncle Lump have to say about this matter? That would be more of an interesting storyline than "Ashley is getting ready to get ready to divorce Michael!" Stacey already has that storyline. I'm almost certain she is the reason because it was said Wendy & Eddie dated all through high school and college and the family never had a problem with it. Wendy's mom and Eddie's mom were friends until Eddie & Wendy got engaged. Wendy is always going to be Team Mom so if Eddie's family is shunning Wendy's mom, they're going to shun Wendy too. Here's the thing: Beyond Candiace's Mother's Day lunch, this is the most elegant event Potomac has seen in a while. All their other events have been in broke down driveways and pickleball places with pork n bean plates.

Candiace had her baby Jett in early October.

Ashley does not like Mia at all and that's been evident since season 7.

Ashley asked if the cameras were down, when they were she and Sesame Street went over to confront Candiace. BRAVO Cameras were down but somebody's cell phone camera was up. Candiace called the lady "vermin" and turned her back on her. In retaliation, Sesame Street picked up a wine glass and threw it at Candiace but it hit Keiarna in the process and Keiarna went to town on Sesame Street. Ashley's other friend dragged Keiarna to the ground. Candiace claims she left the show because she didn't feel safe because of production's lack of concern (translation: she felt production set that fight up). The cast knew Ashley helped set that fight up because they all jumped in Ashley's ass at the magazine party (except Robyn & Gizelle). So when Ashley asked Keiarna about her scar, Keiarna may have felt Ashley was having a go at her because of the fight. Wendy had a 40th birthday part attended by the cast that was filmed. Candiace says she was also there but came after filming was over because she did not want to be filmed.

It was also aid and assistance to Sesame Street Thug ...if Keiarna's scar isn't that bad and Keiarna says this on camera, Sesame Street can use this to get her charges dropped. Or Mia told Karen about Jacqueline's tea when she was mad at J and Karen tucked that information away for Mad Day. Gordon is broke because he has poor judgment. He spent $$$ trying to turn a ho into a housewife, leaving his first wife to do so. Now the money has run out and the ho wife has run out. And while Mia and Ashley laugh at Keiarna's dead fiancee being an alleged drug dealer*, they both need to be asking her for business tips. Keiarna's been able to sustain her business by herself years after the fiance was killed while both Ashley and Mia's forays into business were at their husband's/husband's family's whims. If Mia or Ashley ever bring up her dead fiance again all K needs to do is ask if either of their mothers were his best customers. *We don't know if Ks dead fiance was a drug dealer because Mia B Lying. But even if he was, how many of Mia's tricks were drug dealers?

Stacey is a hoot. Ashley was trying her hardest to be relevant this episode. They were breaking all sorts of 4th walls on this episode. Keiarna should've mentioned Mia's crater face to her face. I can get down with a Wendy/Keiarna/Stacey clique I feel like Mia, Jacqueline, Ashley or all three will not be back next season (along with Jassi). I think they'll bring Robyn back in the friend role. If Karen is convicted and serves time she may not be back either.

Karen wasn't even going to be sharing the bathroom with Gizelle the entire time because Gizelle was going back to Potomac for her daughters' graduation and returning later. So there was going to be at least an 8-12 hour period where Karen would have the bathroom to herself. She was just having tantrums just to be having tantrums.

LOL I just had a birthday and yes I treated it like an epic event, because it is to me. The question shouldn't be why Wendy was treating her own birthday as an epic event but why was KAREN out of sorts because Wendy was treating her birthday as an epic event, especially when the show has treated Karen's birthday as an epic event multiple times? Karen's birthday is in May, Wendy and Ashley's birthday's are in June. Both Karen & Ashley's birthdays have been celebrated on the show but now Karen's ot of sorts because Wendy's birthday is being celebrated too? Mia claims Karen drunk dialed her and said the girls think she's with Ray but she wasn't. Don't know but I think he's every bit as controlling as Michael Darby is...more actually.

Robyn was holding Gizelle back as a character and lowkey Ashley is too. Gizelle spent several seasons trying to protect Robyn's job and Robyn from being exposed and damaged herself in the process. Meanwhile Robyn is living her best life and will end up back on the show as a friend. Gizelle is falling into the same trap with Ashley. Let Ashley sink or swim on her own. Stacey didn't go to Karen for advice. Mia snickered with Karen in the van that Stacey was boring. Karen took Stacey to the side to tell her the group felt she was boring. I guess Stacey is boring because: She's not paying boytoys to pretend to be her boyfriend (although this TJ situation is suspect) or has a suspect ex-husband who slept with the entire Maryland and Virginia region She's not questioning her child's paternity on national TV, sleeping with TJ while her husband is living in the same building, inviting TJ to say hi to her husband or telling how TJ is sucking her big feet She's not slamming into trees and drunk dialing the group to tell them how she's with TJ but everybody thinks she's with her husband She's not gargling her husband's balls while he creeps down to the MGM or Maryland Live in search of fresh booty or looking the other way as he claps cameramens' cakes I guess Stacey is boring. She should be a degenerate like the rest of the cast.