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I guess it's ok to pollute the skies of Virginia but Potomac is sacred. There are LOTS of duck and wildlife at that park Karen & her sister released the balloons at. Jacqueline immediately left when Karen told her to leave so Karen has no case. I wonder if Karen felt Candiace should've pressed trespassing charges against Ashley? Mia still doesn't get the point: Gizelle isn't putting her children's dirty laundry out on social media for public consumption while Mia is. It's not the public's business if Grace/Twins bring a boy to the house* and it's not the public's business** if Mia's son doesn't know who his daddy is. Mia's personality is too intertwined with her kids: she always perceives an attack on her to be an attack on her kids. I think Candiace or Wendy called *MIA* slow and she turned that into an attack on this same son because he has an IEP --why is Mia so invested in letting everyone know her slow son doesn't know who his daddy is? What's up with her shaming this particular kid? I was wondering why Mia left the children with the nanny (Jacqueline's sister) instead of leaving with Gordon, until we found out Gordon took the kids and dropped them off with another nanny. I would bet Mia asked Gordon to keep the kids, he said no, she dropped them off with Nanny #1, he got mad, took them from Nanny #1 and dropped them off with Nanny #2. These people are the circus and the carnival. *Mia is probably remembering her own ho activities at Grace/Twins age and projecting that onto them **Gizelle didn't think it was any problem for the public to know about Monique's child's paternity in Season 5. I guess it's only distasteful if you discuss your own child's questionable paternity ...not if somebody else questions it.

I would bet both the attorney and Ray advised Karen to plea and she decided to fight it because she knew if there was no bodycam footage admitted and the state didn't have medical proof of her drunkenness, they had no case besides reckless driving. Unless she is prepared to divorce Ray, this may be the last we will see of Karen because I can see him demanding she come up off this show and move to Florida and seek treatment for her issues. But she's not going to divorce him because Karen is very image conscious and kicking old old Ray to the curb while she runs the streets is not a good look. Karen married Ray to have a soft life and now the payment has come due and Karen doesn't want to pay. Karen was said to have been a drunk before either of her parents passed away so their deaths is not the reason she's struggling with booze. Karen is probably facing the fact she will be caretaking Ray sooner than later and she wants to be out in those streets, not sitting at home babysitting an old man. She's not built for that caretaking life*, otherwise she would've moved her parents up to Potomac and had home health care looking after them instead of leaving them in Virginia for her sister to take care of. *This is no shade to Karen because most people are not built for that caretaking life. It's hard, it's tough and it's a sacrifice most people aren't willing (or able) to make.

Matt was her assistant who just killed himself but he wasn't Blue Eyes. This is her second official DUI conviction but I heard the others were reduced down to reckless driving. Karen can appeal if she wants to but we can't unsee that bodycam footage. Viewers like Karen and they would be interested in a rehab/redemption story from her. However, if she continues to hide her life, she can sit on the unemployment line with Robyn. Robyn was fired because Mia gave the storyline Robyn was supposed to give in Season 8. Juan refusing to show up to the reunion was the last straw. However, I think the network likes Robyn and I think they may ask her to come back next season as a friend of the show (or Charrisse). That way she won't have to talk about Juan. There's a good chance Karen won't be back next season because she'll either be in jail, rehab or Ray will make her come off this show and move to Florida permanently. BRAVO is going to have to plan for RHOP without Karen. I don't think Karen will be on a "do not rehire" status like Candiace and Katie, though.

The only acceptable way she could skip the reunion and keep her job is she goes straight to rehab OR if somewhere in her conviction she can't leave Maryland. But the reunion is allegedly supposed to film on January 9 and she gets sentenced on January 29 so I doubt she will be going to rehab ahead of her sentencing. If she doesn't show up, then her employment at BRAVO needs to be over. There are plenty of other drunks on this show past and present they can highlight. The state of Maryland gave Karen's bodycam video to Fox5DC minutes after she was found guilty. It's on their YouTube channel. Karen's had at least 3 address changes while being on this show. I'm wondering if she still had the Virginia driver's license and never changed it from that. Remember, Ray was digging around in Karen's purse searching high and low for her driver's license, then offered his driver's license to the cops. Ray knew Karen's license was out of order. That's not going to fly for Karen because we've all seen the bodycam footage. Her calling the cop poor and white, evoking Andy Cohen's name and saying she was Thomas Jefferson's concubine has nothing to do with sentencing. I'd want to know employees of who? The network or the production company?

Karen better check into rehab and have an alcoholism redemption story if she wants to save her job. Season 10 casting predictions: Karen, Mia, Jacqueline, Jassi & Keiarna will be out. Robyn and Charisse will be brought back. Here's the full bodycam video from Fox5DC.

That's why I want to know where she really was and who was she really with. The cousin she was on the phone with testified as to her state of mind ---where was the friend she allegedly went out to dinner with? The lawyer wasn't incompetent, the lawyer has probably done this before for Karen: 1) Refuse to take the breathalyzer/BAC tests 2) Get that bodycam footage struck Without the bodycam footage and the blood alcohol tests, the state of Maryland had no case. The most they could've gotten her for was reckless driving. Sadly for Karen, that bodycam footage was not struck. At that point, her lawyer should have told her to take the plea. IMO Karen insisted on going to trial because she felt she was above the law. Remember, she told the cops if they Googled her they'd be ashamed of arresting her, asked the cops if they knew who she was and told that one cop she was the Grande Dame. This isn't Karen's first rodeo with DUI or being in a state of sloppy drunkenness. This makes me mad for Ray because she's been claiming he's not there for her and said on the other episode she had the accident because she was in distress over her marital problems with Ray. But who came immediately to the scene to help her out of yet another drunken jam? Ray.

Karen shouldn't have said anything, as it was a pending case. That means Karen shouldn't have said ANYTHING, especially nothing about being vindicated, being run off the road, being emotional, grief over her mother etc. Karen was trying to manage our impressions (just like Monique was trying to manage our impressions after she tried to rip Candiace's wig off her scalp) and as with Monique and the Sesame Street fight, when the actual camera footage is revealed, it just doesn't make the people trying to manage the impression look good. Honestly, I think the "You are poor and white" comment to the cop might hurt Karen with BRAVO and the fans just as much as the actual DUI. She actually wasn't. She told them (and the EMTs) to F off, accused them of coming for her because she's Black and told the one guy he was poor and white.

Ray needs to take her off this show or go to Florida and leave her behind to her fate. There is no way she thinks she will appeal and win when: Cop: Ma'am, step away from the car. It's on fire. (in cop car) Do you know who I am? I'm the Grande Dame! (Cop: Huh?) (in cop car) When you Google me, you're going to be so ashamed of yourself. (stumbling out of the cop car) OH God...I'm LIT! (Cop: Yes you ARE lit!) (at police station refusing to listen to cop) I will rise up ...I don't care if I have to go to jail for a year or two...I am Thomas Jefferson's concubine*! All while her wig is sliding back towards her kitchen. I saw one comment saying Karen's head looked like a papaya. SMH. I think she said something about poor white people and trying to suggest the cops arrested her because she's Black* and some mumbo jumbo about being on a plantation. Ma'am you were not targeted because you're Black, you were targeted because you crashed into a tree, mowed down a traffic sign and your car caught on fire. Plus around the same time as Karen's incident, there was an incident where the girl was drunk driving at high speed the wrong way down a Maryland highway and slammed into another car, killing herself and an innocent motorist (and her social media was filled with posts bragging about drunk driving)...so when the Karen news came out people in the area were not sympathetic to Karen's drunk driving. (county adjacent to Karen's county) *(but CANDIACE was the one with racial issues and insecurities, right?) EDIT: Karen's story was that she was with a friend and got emotional and was drinking. We still don't know who the friend she was supposedly with is. The cousin she was on the phone with testified to show her state of mind but not this "friend." Why not? Was she drinking alone or was this friend her affair partner?

EDIT: the Twitter account @ KennethMoton has the bodycam footage. Karen is SLOSHED. She should've pled guilty and done the community service. The judge should give her EXTRA time in jail for wasting everyone's time. That's why she wanted that bodycam footage struck. Karen might be a friend of the show next year if she's on Season 10 at all. Paging Robyn Dixon... EDIT AGAIN: @ MarinaMarraco of Fox5DC has the camera footage of Karen telling the cop "They call me the 'Grande Dame...I don't know what the F that's all about ...Andy Cohen did it." Karen's wig is slid ALL the way back. This is NOT good. EDIT 3: @ MarinaMarraco has footage of Karen at the station telling the cops she didn't give a F and she'll rise up and stay in the jail for a year or two* and she was Thomas Jefferson's concubine. WTF. *Karen manifested her jail sentence.

Yes, the Fox 5 DC reporter Marina Marraco just tweeted Karen was found guilty and sentencing is on January 29. Karen faces 2 years in the clankity clank

Mia was trying to do both: Shame Gizelle on her parenting because Gizelle knows she has sluts for daughters and was trying to hide it. While I agree Gizelle should take action against Mia, I can't feel too sorry for Gizelle when she was trying to insinuate Monique's last baby wasn't by Chris and bring that on the show. I can't feel too sorry for Gizelle when she was trying to bring the Eddie/cheating rumors to the show (part of those rumors that I saw was . While Gizelle is correct that Mia's paternity storyline is nasty work, she had no problem bringing turmoil to other people's kids.

The new wife didn't have any kids to my knowledge with Gizelle's father. Only Gizelle and her siblings were named. That doesn't mean there are no other kids. I have friends were deliberately excluded from their parent's obituary (by their siblings) and I have loved ones were specifically asked not to be mentioned in the obituary (because they didn't like the familly member who died). I think the new wife got Gizelle's dad to sign a new will giving her everything and Gizelle and her siblings are trying to stop it. Mia may as well pack her white box and quit like Candiace did.

We're not going to be dense today. Karen needs to take accountability for her actions. Even if she wasn't drunk, she WAS driving recklessly and on a suspended license at that. She shouldn't be let off the hook.

IMO Wendy was never on the tenure track because if she was, she never would've done this show and jeopardize that. I don't think Johns Hopkins told her to resign...they probably didn't care if she did or not. It was probably a case of her peers being able to create courses and John Hopkins approving those courses but when she tried to create her own courses, Johns Hopkins told her no so she left.

If we as viewers are to question Candiace's alleged anti-blackness and ability to be a good mom by claiming she hates/is jealous of her baby because the baby is biracial* (and thus has the white privilege she will never have), then we as viewers must also question: Why Gizelle, Robyn, Ashley, Karen and Mia are now wearing blonde hair instead of the naturally dark hair each and every one of them was born with Why Stacey and Ashley have not been raising their children to fully appreciate their Black heritage and ancestry Why Gizelle's brown daughter was wearing makeup foundation 2-3 shades lighter than her complexion (she's stopped now) Why Karen's brown daughter is also wearing a horrible blond wig Why Stacey and Ashley (and Katie) chose White men to marry and procreate with Why Ashley is still dating White men Why Wendy and her mother were bleaching their skin (and Wendy's mother wearing blue contacts) (they've stopped now) Why Monique felt her eye color made her a cut above Why Charrisse, Karen, Monique, Gizelle and Ashley** chose to raise their children in mostly white enclaves Why RHOP production appeared to be trying to ice the 2 darkest complexioned cast members off the show while boosting and protecting the light complexioned cast members Everyone on this cast past and present can get this smoke. Most of the above questions are none of our business, but if we are to question Candiace's racial feelings and ability as a mother*** then it's also fair to question the other cast members & side characters about their own racial choices as well. *It doesn't matter what the baby looks like because Candiace will make sure her biracial son has more of an appreciation of his Black ancestry than Stacey or Ashley. **Arlington is diverse but the side of Arlington Ashley is living in and the condo Michael lives in is not. ***Candiace has also expressed concerned she may be mistaken as the baby's nanny because of their different complexions. That's a real concern, especially if some Karen decides to call the police on Candiace for kidnapping a white baby. Ashley probably has never experienced this but I betcha Stacey has.