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I know this is slightly off topic pertaining to today's show, but in regards to Lulu finding out Brook Lynn's secret kid and my stance on it: if Robin had found out about Michael in the same matter, I would say the same thing about having no right to tell, even though it was wrong for Carly to hide Michael from AJ.
On to today's show.
1 hour ago, Fellaway said:"A contentious relationship"... So that's what you call it when a man murders a woman's son. Hunh. Live and learn.
I thought this episode was supposed to be a tribute to Monica, not Sonny.
Oh, and Show? Mac took care of Robin. Sonny's the one who puts his loved ones in danger.
This show... It's gonna give me an ulcer, I'm tellin' ya.
You know that Sonny and his portrayer MB thinks that Sonny is a super swell guy based on that self satisfied smile I saw him have in a clip from today's show.
Please tell me Sonny's anonymous donation wasn't to Monica's wing. Please tell it was only updates to Stone's wing or event the Nurse's Ball. I don't want Sonny or Carly anywhere near Monica, even in something named after her, after all the horrible things thye did to her. Neither of them should be there for the unveiling.
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18 hours ago, absnow54 said:
For someone who carries around Jason’s memories like a detailed Wikipedia page, I can’t fathom why he’d ever do this to Lila. Even from the perspective of a sleazy politician, digging up the beloved town matriarch is such a terrible idea.
Then why bring back Drew if he was going to pivoted to this? Why not have CM play one of Jimmy Lee Holt's kids. Then him wanting the Q name while going after the Q crypt would make sense as he would have no blood relation to Lila and be pissed that his branch of the family were denied an inheritance from Edward.
13 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:Not yet, though the previews showed that Not!Brennan is about to kill him.
I never thought Valentin was scary. I seem to recall another actor was in line to play him, but it never happened. I mean, I remember how a drugged up Robert!Fucking!Scorpio! Cold-cocked him at the Nurses Ball after he escaped!
I remember that. JFP (the then EP) was super unprofessional. That was around the time we got saddled with James Franco's Franco. The actor, reportedly, was in the f*ing make up chair when he was told the storyline had being scrapped. JFP didn't have the courtesy to pickup her cell phone and tell not to bother coming in. Of course the smarter thing to do when James was still in favor was have him play Valentin, but instead of giving him the real soap acting experience for actors that aren't MB or SB, they allowed him to craft his own storyline.
On 3/16/2025 at 3:14 PM, Bringonthedrama said:Yes, Lulu was dead wrong for breaking into Martin's hotel room and her hostile approach to Brook Lynn. But the way AS and RS are playing their characters, I don't believe they are really keeping the secret to protect a now-adult child. There are ways to investigate/look into the past without just showing and declaring "ta da, I'm your biological parent who gave you up for adoption." Both women have clearly not kept the secret for fear of the kid's safety re: Sonny. Lois is protecting Gloria and herself from having her daughter, ex-husband, etc. rage at her.
It makes sense that she didn't tell him when she was a scared teenager. But she knows Dante is a kind, not dangerous guy who would never blow up a kid's life for selfish reasons, and she was never afraid of the danger that Sonny brings to children, so she had no real reason to not tell adult Dante the truth.
Doesn't change the fact that those were confidential files, so not only was it immoral, it was illegal. I think the passing years, a secret like that it would be harder to reveal, not easier, no matter how safe Dante is. And regarding today's show, no matter how "tiny" Lulu is, I'm glad Chase confronted her. He is right; her prime motivation is her dislike for BL, not a sense of justice for Dante. All her getting in BL's face constantly is going to make BL try harder to keep the secret. Chase forcing Lulu to give BL space, might allow him to convince BL to come clean to Dante. And unlike the Charlotte situation where Valentin was raising her, neither Dante or BL raised Gio, BL didn't know she had a son.
One another side note, Lulu might not know it (& don't she will apologize if she found out), when she said "what if it was your kid!) I felt really bad for Chase considering his infertility.
On 3/19/2025 at 7:26 PM, Daisy said:You know the thing that ticks me off the most about this stupid BLQ baby. is that it's Dante's baby which means Sonny is officially biologically connected and mingled with the Q's and that is just wrong on so many levels.
I was thinking that too. Sonny is such a weed. He is the father of one Cassadine, and the Uncle to two, the father of two Spencers. He stole Dr. Alan's grandson and now Tracy is going to find out that not only is he a bio grandpa to her only bio great grandkid, but Lois allowed him to have an outsize influence on Gio when it seems Ned didn't even know. Let's not forgot his enduring love story and grooming of Jason. This show's 25 year obsession with being up Sonny's ass has turned all the family trees to bushes.
8 hours ago, dubbel zout said:Lulu, just because Martin is your uncle doesn't mean it's okay to break into his hotel room and rifle through his professional papers. WTF reason was that?
My mom's an accountant, doesn't mean when I'm at her house I'm allowed to go through her clients' files.
13 hours ago, MarciNJ said:for now.... until it is Cody's baby or some rando's baby....
I'm hoping Lucas.
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On 3/14/2025 at 11:08 AM, dubbel zout said:
They'll move into the Q mansion so Charlotte can be with her brothers. And Lulu can continue to berate BL for her choices 20 years ago that have nothing to do with Lulu whatsoever. If any home in Port Charles has limitless space, it's the Q mansion.
On 3/14/2025 at 2:36 PM, driver18 said:Lulu wasn't berating her. Lulu was calling her out on her bs, and the crappy-ass way she had and was treating Dante. And, yes, it DOES have something to do with her. Brooklyn has been keeping a MASSIVE secret from Dante, Lulu's ex, someone that Brooklyn claims is her friend, for 21 years. And during those 21 years, Lulu and Dante were married, very much in love, and there are still very strong feelings.
Lulu's tone was berating. So is Lulu right about Dante being told? Short answer, yes. I understand that Lulu feels she has an obligation to tell Dante, and really can't keep this from Dante or Rocco. Long answer, Lulu is channeling the sanctimonious, petty and rude attitude that plagues all Spencers, especially towards people they don't like. And it doesn't help that unlike Robin, who figured it out on her own with Michael and was told by Maxie about Spencer, she went rifling through a lawyer's private files, thereby grossly invading Brook Lynn's family's privacy. I hope Lois slaps Lulu if she finds out that is how she came across the info.
She didn't come into her confrontation with Brooklynn with even one ounce of compassion by apologizing to Brook Lynn for stumbling across the information, letting her know she can't keep it to herself but giving Brook Lynn a few days or weeks to get herself together and tell Dante herself. No, it was guns blazing, super supreme b*tch mode. Same attitude Carly had towards Nina that stopped Nina about telling her about Sonny, and her attitude towards Robin, even though she knew Robin knew about Michael.
Lulu attitude reminds of a client my boss recently had. The magazine I worked for did screw up her ad, but she was so nasty to my boss in emails I couldn't help think "Lady, I agree you were wronged, but I now really don't want to help you. How the f*ck are you as successful as you claim to be if this is how you treat people who are trying to help you?"
I also doesn't see any malice towards Dante behind BL keeping the baby a secret. She probably didn't want to think (at 16!) about giving up a child as she was still a kid herself. It isn't that weird for a teen girl, even in the real world, to not tell the baby daddy about the kid, especially if she is giving the kid up for adoption.
Side note: GH needs to work out its SORASing. According to AI, Dante isn't much older than BL, but Sonny & Olivia had Dante when they were in their mid to late teens, and Lois, with Ned, had BL when she was in her 20s, but Lois, Sonny & Olivia grew up together. Going by that, Dante should be a good 5 to 7 years older, (which is the real age difference between AS & DZ), and that includes SORASing to make BL older. So what is it now? Did Lois have BL in her teens too (which would make Ned a creep) or is Lois now older than Sonny? It wouldn't matter so much if the Cerrulos and Cornithois weren't so intertwine.
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19 minutes ago, absnow54 said:
You raise some good questions. And I haven’t been following Gio’s backstory well enough to work out the timeline. Gio would have been 6-8 when Dante was revealed to be Sonny’s son (I think.) So potentially Lois felt compelled to include Sonny in Gio’s life around that time since he missed out on being a father to Dante. Or maybe Lois knew all the baby daddy secrets and knew Dante was Sonny’s long before it was revealed in Port Charles.
Then Lois sucks, so thanks for ruining another character, show! Seriously, why would Sonny be so involved with one of the "old neighborhood" friends' kid. He didn't even seem as involved with Spencer growing up, and that was his known nephew who lived off and on in Port Charles. It isn't like his own life wasn't eventual as it is. Lord knows we haven't gotten much of break from the character since, well, since MB struck out in primetime . This storyline sucks and I pity everyone involved, including Maurice Bernard. If they wanted the actor to be on the show so badly, why not bring him on as Alec, Brenda Barrett's son? It would be around the right amount of years to be SORASed to and Ned & Lois were pretty close to Brenda.
On 3/6/2025 at 4:16 PM, statsgirl said:No surprise, Carly blames Robin for wrecking their lives by revealing the secret of Michael's paternity and not herself for the secret in the first place. And Lulu, who spent time growing up in the Quartermaine house, shouldn't accept so blithely how horrible it would have been for Michael to be AJ's son.
Well, it is in keeping with Carly's malignant narcissism, of course she still blames Robin, and even blames her for Carly's narcissistic abuse of AJ. The big difference between Robin and Lulu is that Robin figured it out on her own and kept the secret because of Jason. Lulu went riffling through someone else's private files.
On 3/6/2025 at 3:35 PM, statsgirl said:Tracy, Gio's unwitting great grandmother, confronting Sonny, his unwitting grandfather. I don't know whether to be impressed or throw up..
Throw up. It is so heavy handed.
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5 minutes ago, statsgirl said:
Was Lulu this obnoxious and yes, stupid, under JMB's time? Yes, it is your job to be yelled at by the customers.
She became that obnoxious in the JMB years when they decided that Lulu was a mini Carly (and worshipped her), instead of a female Luke, and yes, there is a difference.
49 minutes ago, threebluestars said:All of these key scenes being filmed without the regular actors are awful.
I think I'm done with the show finally.
And this is why I disagree with @dubbel zout. This is why I care when they have temp actors film these important scenes, especially if the actual actor is coming right back; nothing else, it looks sloppy. They could have rewritten the scene at least and moved the kiss to a different day, but no. Between this, and the lack of care with characters (legacy to new) is why I was on @GHScorpiosRule side for her dislike of Emma's characterization. It felt like the show needed a "bad girl" and decided it should be Emma because she was the most available. Considering what the show did to Anna Devane, an established character with a long history and multiple, it was warranted. There are ways to make a character what you need for the canvas without sacrificing the integrity of what the audience believes they could be.
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13 minutes ago, Sake614 said:
Did anyone else think it was really weird that Maxie said her 9 year old son has been bugging her for a play date with 4 year old Wylie? Was that just a ploy to get Willow to Maxie’s house so she can try to talk some sense into her? And what is James going to do with the brat when he gets there?
No, it was. Even a 2 year age gap between anyone under 14 seems huge. I'm chalking it up to Maxie's son wanting to hang out at a luxurious mansion with stables, pool and a lake, possibly sweet in home theater and latest video gaming set up.
19 minutes ago, sacrebleu said:And I'm liking Maxie as the non-crazy, non-judgemental talk-to. She gave Nina good advice, knowing Nina probably wouldn't take it, and offered friendship to Willow, and since joining the Corinthii cult, she doesn't have a single friend that isn't Team Michael.
And it feels earned with everything that Maxie has gone through, being either the villain or the heroine. I haven't really watched the show since FV & RC killed AJ and decided that Sonny should skate after a few months, complete with SLS giving up on his vendetta, but unlike other characters on the show, she does suffer consequences for her actions and the show doesn't have perfectly good characters sacrificed to make her look better.
The Joss investigation storyline seems to be pale imitation of the storyline of Maxie's Text Message Killer investigation, after her boyfriend Cooper and then poor Georgie were murdered. While Maxie was tenacious and resourceful, she also wasn't super awesome. She even recruited Spinelli, who she couldn't stand, (and believe or not, Spinelli hated her too because of his affection for Lulu) because of his computer skills. Of course, the storyline was doing so well, with Maxie nearly solving, Guza couldn't have that and had, and I kid you not, Nikolas's tumor!Emily tell him who killed her so he could pass the message off to Jason.
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1 hour ago, YaddaYadda said:
I've said it before, I'll say it again, nothing good comes from sleeping with Sonny or Michael, or having their children. Sasha's swallowed the dumb dumb pill and that baby is eating whatever is left of her brain and common sense.
This pregnancy was so unnecessary. Aren't there other things the writers can do with the wimminfolk that's not pregnancy/baby related. This is insane.
The writers can't figure out that it is universal known that close family members aren't allowed to perform medical procedures on relatives. There is a famous riddle about it and everything. Yes, I'm still salty on Lucas performing major surgery on Sam. And it was a scheduled surgery in a hospital, not an emergency one on Spoon Island. If the show manages to write anything correctly, like people using checks (especially in an independently owned art gallery to avoid credit card processing fees) and reading your medical results online, it is purely accidentally. Because of all the babies FV introduced in the first 5 years, many unnecessary, there is seems to be too many kids. It also doesn't help that FV likes to make everyone related.
He has the weirdest quirks: constantly making women pregnant, babies switches (two on this show that I can think of right now), and on the flip side, infertility storylines. Three of them (there might be more on this show). First Lulu and her misshapen uterus, then rendered infertile by the Cassadines, Molly and now Chase. And this is in the last 10 years. I can only recount three major characters dealing with infertility from General Hospital/Port Charles between 1963-2000: Lee Baldwin, Bobbie Spencer and Lucy Coe.
I'm sure even the most trad wife audience members are sick of all these baby storylines. The one thing this show has control of, the writing, they refuse to control. Do they even have Zoom meetings about this? It is like they go with the first draft of the stupidest ideas and say, yes, this is fine.
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On 12/18/2024 at 7:11 AM, sacrebleu said:
Time for my biggest GH SORAS pet peeve: Molly should be younger than Cam. Cam was a baby when Alexis and Ric got together.
( And Molly was born in the train wreck of Liz/ Lucky's wedding. ( The actual train wreck, not the train wreck that was Liz and GV-Lucky's marriage)
It is especially annoying because Ric and Liz were involved right before he was moved on to Alexis. He was trying to steal Zander's rights to Cam.
3 hours ago, CeChase said:Well, I do slut shame Sonny and call him the biggest ho in Port Charles. But you make a good point, because on other boards I don't see people slut shaming Sonny, it's just me.
No one outside of the saner boards comments what in absolute disgrace it is that Sonny has so many ONS babies, considering Stone died of a sexually transmitted disease.
11 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:Oh, this show.
So now that Cody is running his mouth about Sasha's pregnancy and who he thinks is the father, I'm assuming that Jason will feel like he has no choice but to claim the baby. Because the writers are dumb like that.
Also, Cody is one of the most unpleasant characters there is.
I hated that they made Cody Dominque's son. I have no real issue with Mac being the father, but I feel the addition of Cody damages the Scott/Dominque/Lucy surrogacy storyline.
5 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:I disagree. She's lumping both families together, as people she doesn't want her child to know, or for them to know about said child. Mooby's "mob" I can get behind. Jaysus STILL works for Mooby. So I don't think this is clever writing at all, but predictable and boring. Even before she got pregnant, and while working there, she would snark about the Quartermaines-her employers. Again, quit, if you can't stand them; they aren't the only game in town where you can work and cook to your heart's delight. Nor are they the only wealthy family who could provide on site housing on the grounds, if you will. Frank is just too cheap to hire day players or utilize the all the other wealthy families that used to show up now and then before he took over.
So all this Q talk about them being powerful of late & Tracy being overly invested in Michael's kids living arrangement & being a bitch to servants was a set up for this this Sasha shit. I never understood why the show didn't have the reason that Monica wanted to keep Ameila and Wiley at the Q mansion is for the basic reason is that it is the only home they known. With SLS and the Cult Mom's marriage breaking up and Scout being dragged out of the home and away from her older brother, they need some continuty in their lives. But it is all Monica wants to know they are in the house so she feels better. Every time the "Qs" and their horribleness keep being brought, I ask, "what the f* are is the show talking about?" Ned , who next to Jason, has been the most contemptuous of his family (though not in a traitorous way like Jason), BLQ, Olivia, Lois? Drew, who only decided to embrace being a Q after being tricked into thinking he was Jason, and would only have a few memories of old guard Qs, a very few positive? The Q that would lead that charge, Edward, has been dead for a decade and Alan for longer. Monica is bed ridden (and LC has sadly passed away). AJ might have pulled these shenanigans, but FV killed him too. I think that Tracy is being written out of character, bc she was never this interested custody of Q kids, not even her own.
FV and Guza have so throughly gutted and in the case of Guza, neutered, the family, I feel insulted that the Qs are being scapegoated. No show, you mean the Cornithos and I don't want Qs lumped into together with them. Not only do Cornitios fight dirty (hanging people on meat hooks, framing people for sexual assault) they don't bother protecting them.
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While I do feel I can link sources to my accusations, it is such a wall of links it isn't worth it.
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31 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:
I wasn't trying to start a fight and wasn't even thinking of Jason because he only moved in there for Danny's sake. I was mostly thinking of Monica, Tracy, Ned and Olivia, BLQ, and Lucas (I know he's not a Q but he was Bobbie's son/is Michael's uncle and has known the Q family his entire life because Bobbie and Tony were colleagues with Monica and Alan).
My point is that while what Drew did managed to outdo what Jason and Monica did in terms of cheating, it is Jason's support of Sonny and Carly that has lead to Michael being gravely injured, again, that would cause Monica the most stress. Monica is probably furious with Drew as she was one of the few people that didn't demand that everything be taken away from him turned over to Jason when Jason came back from the dead the first time, but it isn't enough to stress her out as similar things have happened in the past and no one died directly from those events. However, Jason alliance with Sonny and Carly, even after what happened with Jason, has caused the Michael to be fighting for his life a second time. Michael to his stepfather's house for advice shouldn't put him in the hospital, but it did, again, not from an accident but from one of Sonny's enemies. Jason put Michael that lifestyle, when a safer option was available, because Carly can't compromise. He's threatened AJ several times when AJ tried to legally get custody of Michael. The alliance has cost the lives of Emily, Alan and Justus (with Justus being the most direct one as he was representing Jason when he got killed). The danger element would be bad enough, but Sonny cold bloodily murdered AJ and is freely living his life. If he cared about Monica out all, he would be distance between CarSon, but no. Instead he allows Sonny to use her property to stage another murder and Jason helps cover it up. Now Michael is again paying for the lifestyle that Jason got him in and refuses to quit.
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33 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:
It's the details of this situation, which are disgusting to the family: they both live on the Q property and Drew used the proximity and Willow's concern for his young daughter to his advantage, Drew is getting with a much younger (and very naive) woman, the first time they had sex was in the children's playroom (kids including the teenagers could have witnessed as I don't think they locked the door), and he didn't just break up a marriage a la Jason/Courtney/AJ - the couple has two young children. Neither Monica nor Ned had young children at the time of their affair either.
Counterpoint: Jason constantly runs cover for the ASSHOLE THAT MURDERED HER BIOLOGICAL SON AJ IN COLD BLOOD AND HIS BITCH EX-WIFE. This isn't some Dorian/Vicki shit or on this show, Leslie/Monica drama, Jason is a complete traitor. Not only is he still friends with the guy that murdered Monica's son AJ, he even recently covered up a murder that Sonny committed, again in cold blood, on her fucking property. In any other circumstance, even the heighten ones, what Drew did was worse than Jason, it is the worse case of family stealing away another spouse, and that is a pretty high bar. At least this time around with the spouse stealing, people are disgusted by the people involved in the betrayal, unlike with what Jason pulled with AJ/Courtney with everyone celebrating it. And if kids being involved makes it worse, Jason fully supported Sonny knocking up Carly while she was (in an admittedly sham) marriage to AJ and taking full custody and then Sonny kidnapping AJ to steal his parental rights. If Jason truly felt sorry about it with his own experience with his own sons, he would be keeping his distance away from Sonny, instead of helping him cover up a murder.
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4 hours ago, Grinaldi said:
Lately I have been of the opinion that Olivia should get the house. I like the idea of it going to the non-Q who loved it the most. (There's a case to be made for Lucy on those grounds too)
Or hell, give it to Yuri. He has been hanging out with her for a long time.
Fuck that too. Considering how she openly disparages the memory of her murdered cousin Kate, after she inherited half a hotel from her, and how she judges the Qs, a hard pass too. It should go into a trust for the great grand kids and grand kids besides Michael, as @DanaKsaid.
So if the stress of the combo of Willow and Michael's impending divorce and especially Michael going away to heal from life threatening burns finally does Monica in, then Jason's constant traitorous bullshit finally killed her. I know people deem Drew worse (and he is slimy), what Drew did has happened in the family before: Monica had an affair with Ned (before realizing it was her nephew, at least to her credit) and Jason stole Courtney away from AJ with the family cheering it on. But Jason constantly choosing Carly and Sonny and even helping them keep Michael away from most of the family, not mention directly or indirectly getting members of family killed, probably broke her heart.
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2 hours ago, jsbt said:
In case anyone was wondering, ex-GH writers Bob Guza and yes, Ron Carlivati are now both on staff at CBS' new Black-centric soap Beyond the Gates. As the show is the brainchild of longtime GH scribe Michele Val Jean, Guza appears to be her co-HW and Carlivati appears to a breakdown writer.
Knowing both MVJ and Guza's work well (they go back together to '96 or so and I believe MVJ came in under Labine), Ron working under them both surprises and amuses me. That's an interesting mix lol.
It will as they will actually have to create interesting stories and characters and can't rely on an existing IP for their audience.
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9 hours ago, Tenshinhan said:
Based on Trina being a Black woman, and the criminal justice system's tendency to ignore the safety and protection of Black women.
Based on the “justice” that white people get (Kate Howard, AJ Quartermaine), the show sucks with justice and protecting anyone.
As someone that is neither white nor black, my observation is that the legal system has trouble protecting women in general. In the last couple of years, I’ve heard separate stories of a white and black woman being targeted by their prior victimizers because the legal failed to properly inform them that the men had been paroled. In the case of the white woman, she was murdered and the black woman, she was seriously injured and her pre teen son was killed.
Heather only stalked Trina (though that is very serious), but I would argue that white women are more in danger, as Heather hasn’t killed any African American people, but she has killed or attempted to kill several white women.
Considering what a vindictive bitch Ava is, it is a bit surprising she isn’t pushing more for Heather to be locked in a mental hospital. If Dr.O doesn’t come back to at least to attempt to take out Heather, then I know there is no depth in this storyline.
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3 hours ago, sunnyface said:
Ava owns what she did. She isn't breaking the law each day. Sure Ava has done horrible stuff and is evil but she is a far cry from Sonny who every single day commits crimes. And the frequency of the crimes should always be noted as it is not a fair comparison - jmo - to equivocate between Ava and Sonny beyond that they both are murderers. On a shallower note, MW is entertaining to watch and MB seems challenged to spit out his lines and hasn't aged nearly as well as MW.
Still on the barge. And it is all on MB and the writing surrounding that character. How is this guy who recently beat an elderly guy in church to a pulp and killed a federal law enforcement officer is treated with anything but revulsion, disgust, and contempt?
Then by that metric, Carly is a less evil character than her because she hasn’t murdered anyone, just kidnapping, fraud and accessory to murder. Ava doesn’t own shit. The only good thing with Ava and Sonny sharing a kid is that they are stuck torturing each other because they are both incredibly slimy, so they regularly get out of trouble. And I find Maura West overly mannered. This show is very sad because between our three unrepentant killers, Ava commits the least amount of murderers.
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6 hours ago, graight said:
I get what you're saying but if I want morality in my TV characters I'm definitely not going to look for or expect to find it on a soap. Besides, I blame the writers for the characters' wrongdoings. I mean, they told them to do it. 😉
As I said in the post, it is fine if you aren’t looking for morality. My point there isn’t anything in Ava’s history that makes her redeemed for what she did to Kate, AJ, and Morgan. She is still an evil character like Sonny and Carly, but unlike someone like Helena Cassadine, the show isn’t willingly to be honest about how immoral they are.
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Or they justify or hand wave the truly evil things they do & they get storyline after storyline. See: Ava Jerome, Sonny Cornithos, now they trying to portray Carly as the matriarch even though she is currently covering up another murder.
The current leads don’t suffer any repercussions for the shit they do. Mitch Lawerence was portrayed straight up,so I can at least appreciate the honesty. Even when he escapes justice, it is seen as wrong, not like with Ava when she murdered Kate and got AJ killed.
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On 10/6/2024 at 7:04 AM, graight said:
I suppose I watch this show kind of superficially. I don't think too much about past acts. My reactions to characters are based on what they are doing now (or in the last year) and whether the character is believable and well-acted. For instance, I don't dislike Sonny because of his past behavior but more because his gummy bear mobster is so unreal (and not well-acted). That's why he was better in Nixon Falls, imo.
So it isn't so much they actually did anything redeemable, but people find them entertaining. I guess if they do something really shitty to a relative innocent (or someone they professed to care about) hopefully they don't do anything else shitty within the year, like Ava's back to back shooting Kate in cold blood and getting Sonny to kill AJ when he was searching for the truth.
I get that people just enjoy watching evil characters when they are played by entertaining actors. Believe it or not, I do too, but to me, they aren't redeemed unless they fully make up for the things they did and being nice to a teen girl ≠ murdering 2 innocent people and swapping the meds from a troubled young man.
To me, there is difference be from being entertained by dark characters and ignoring the bad stuff they do (and it fine if people value that more than morality in entertainment) and a character being redeemed.
QuoteJFC! Miss me with this whole notion about S&C's children dumb as fuck narrative. What makes them so special? Donna can go live at the Quartermaines like every other child. 2 of Carly's children already live there. It's not like they'd notice a third one or one more child.
@YaddaYaddaGive Donna to Lucas. She'd probably be safer.
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6 hours ago, graight said:
Points taken. Your explanations about Ava and Heather are fuzzy in my mind, but I bow to your knowledge. I still want to see Brad and Heather (to a lesser extent) prevail. And Ava has more than redeemed herself with her friendship with Trina. It's pretty cool that Ava now has blackmail material against Portia.
You're entitled to your opinion, I just don't agree with the assessment.
More than redeemed herself because of Trina?? It is that line of thinking that got Guza to believe that Sonny is still the good guy. sarcasm Sonny gets a SAed teen to strip at his club, sleeps with her and gives her pills...water under the bridge and she's to blame because Sonny gave comfort care to Stone when he was dying of AIDS. And all the kidnappings and murders are fine because he did it out of love.sarcasm
I'd would argue that Sonny sitting vigil by Stone's bedside did more for his redemption for he did to Karen than Ava being nice to Trinia, especially as Ava directly or indirectly got 3 people killed: Kate, AJ and Morgan. And I don't think he is ever redeemed for he did to Karen because he doesn't believe he did anything wrong. Ava might have some pangs of guilt now and again, but she was over joyed when the confession went missing. AJ, on the other hand, was somewhat disturbed when he was found not guilty and was the only one that bothered to find out the truth about what happened to Kate.
I don't root for Heather, because Heather was always a nasty person, but like I said, she was never crazy as Guza characterized when he brought the character back, so maybe cobalt poisoning explains why she acted like she did when she was high.
As for Brad, being sleazy towards Michael and taking Wiley in a moment of weakness when Wiley's own mother even offered, since in the case of Michael nothing happened (thoughMichael was too forgiving in order to usher Lucas/Brad), weirdly, they are actually classic storylines. Tracy did try to coerce Jax into marrying her, so it isn't hugely different than Brad.
4 hours ago, CeChase said:Sonny committing murder on Q property with no blowback is so beyond disgusting. I understand that Leslie isn't up to working, so they can easily get around this by having Tracy take over. Tracy can just say Monica is not up to handling this, but they've discussed it and Monica asked Tracy to handle it. They are all banished from Q property, Jason, Sonny, and Carly. Ned should back her up. But they just continue with this farce, with people actually mocking Tracy for knowing that Sonny did murder on their estate. This is so beyond ridiculous, but it's also gross. It hurts the Quartermaines in my opinions. Typical of this show though.
She should tell BLQ and Michael if they don't like it they know where the door is. And that goes three times for Lois.
100%, though I think that Michael should be banished until he gives up Sonny.
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59 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:
I didn't even recognize this character I saw today posing as Lucas. Happy go lucky and thrilled to see Cujo and calling her "Sis"? What the everlovin' FUCK??
He's no Ryan Carnes, that's for damned sure. And I guess he's past grieving the death of Bobbie, eh? Just as Mills is NOT Heather, this guy isn't Lucas; just like the other recast after Ryan left with that black-headed dude we saw for a few scenes-during which he told Brad he didn't want anything more to do with him. And now this one is again telling Brad "you are dead to me foreverandever"? It's redundant, and again Show treating its viewers like they're stupid.
Cujo showed NONE of the compassion or empathy when she was jumping for joy at Wiley being ripped from Lucas's arms to be handed over to the SLS. Bobbie also failed as a mother there. I understand Ryan wasn't available or willing (?) to return (except for Jackie), but for fuck's sake, how about trying to stay in character or enough so he's recognizable?
And Cujo can just take several FUCKING, FUCKING SEATS about Lucas being family, along with Mini-Cujo with her shit eating grin and open arms for hugs, which this Pod!Lucas just grinned and jumped right in.
See, right there. A rivalry or at least a resentment that should exist. I don't mind Lucas not constantly hating on Carly, but Lucas should definitely have a problem with her, which could have been stirred up with Bobbie's death. She never apologized for her role in breaking up his parents marriage when he was a child, nor lying to his Tony and driving him crazy (which caused Tony from being able to see Lucas and Lucas even being afraid of him), and judging by Carly reaction to Dante when he brought up when she paid Brooklynn to break up Lante, she probably would be equally dismissive.
QuoteWhile I didn't like that Lucky went to Mooby-I did snort and giggle that his hug wasn't effusive; it looked like Lucky did it, as a perfunctory gesture. And I can accept that because JJ's Lucky had a good relationship with Mooby. It was Larry that hated him and Jason. Sigh...But I'm thinking JJ is getting this all out of the way for when he and Genie finally reunite as adult Lucky and Laura. I know I'll be having my Kleenex handy when I watch.
I don't remember Lucky particular hating Sonny, only Jason. Once Larry sobered up and the Liason/LL2 drama died down, he wasn't particular vindictive toward Jason, he just didn't have any use for him. It was my favorite attitude of Lucky towards the mob.
QuoteBecause, BECAUSE, just whose life did Jagger EVER destroy? That would be Mooby who has ruined countless lives and murdered. So again, STFU Cujo, you heifer.
While Jagger was going around the bend near the end, it felt like a Frank Grimes (Simpsons) situation where karma barely touches that waste of skin Sonny and it pisses him off.(At least Homer is only a buffoon, not inherently evil).
One thing that the show is picking up from the Guza years is despite the shit Sonny stirs up, nearly unprovoked, somehow it is the people he victimizes who are the real villians. You know how Michael got shot in the head from a bullet meant for Sonny by a hit put out by Claudia (she didn't pull the trigger or was even there). Well, Claudia did it not because she wanted Sonny's territory, but because he kidnap her brother/son Johnny. She even gave Sonny a chance to release Johnny immediately with no issue, and Sonny refused. Then he is shocked, shocked that a mobster would make good on her threat.
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8 hours ago, graight said:
I was just thinking that Portia should become an honorary Carly.
OK, so I almost always root for the underdog (AJ, Zander, Skye, Nina, Ava and now Brad and Heather). I'm hoping Heather has her day in court notwithstanding whatever it was she did before the Hook. Too far back for me to remember (reminders are welcome, though). I'm curious as to how they will have her interact with PC folks when/if she gets out of prison. Did I miss the part where Heather told Alexis that Ric has already done independent cobalt tests? Why is Alexis' big idea to get another test?
Speaking of Alexis, probably my favorite character because NLG is so good. I love that she's not wearing makeup and I would bet that is her decision. Who wears makeup in prison?
I like the underdog myself, but the way the show redeems truly sociopathic and destructive murderers, I just can't anymore. AJ, Zander, Skye and are totally different than people like Heather and Ava. We saw it for ourselves how Sonny & Carly (with Jason's help) ruined AJ, that Jason and Courtney framed Zander for Courtney shooting that cop, and Skye was an old school schemer, but didn't actively murder or kidnap innocent people. Now Nina and Brad are little more grey: they did commit out right crimes, but in Nina's defense, she probably was insane after being put into a 20 year coma by her mother and finding out she was infertile when she nearly killed Ava by forcing her to give birth and kidnapping Avery, and Brad did try and blackmail Michael into sleeping with him (I don't like Michael, but that was pretty sleazy) and kept Wiley because he was afraid of losing Lucas, but luckily no one died. In a lot of ways, Brad is a fresh update of schemers like Tracy and Skye.
But Ava and Heather did kill people and do other terrible things. But they brushed it aside for Ava and now they are doing it with Heather. Now, the cobalt poisoning thing, I get it is attempting to be a bit of a reset: Guza did turn her into a unstable murderous killer obsessed with Luke with one of his recons, but she wasn't a good person before that.
34 minutes ago, Daisy said:not even that. she couldn't be bothered to figure out beause "why should I, you left.". This is why i am so mad that they ditched the schirzophrenzia storyline. like you just robbed Taggert of his daughter just for fun? let it have some consequences!
If there is a consequence worth having, the show won't do it: see my post right above. With Sonny committing murder on Monica's property and Michael and Jason covering it up, that should be the last draw for Monica, and Michael and Jason should be banished from her property, only allowing Jake and Michael's kids, until they give Sonny up. But none of that will happen
10 minutes ago, tessaray said:I think some of it is secondhand due to his close friendship with Britt but Portia has a rigid and extremely high moral code... for everyone other than herself or Trina. She's seriously unhinged when it comes to her adult daughter. (Not that Carly wouldn't do the same things for her own but even Carly wouldn't demand the whole world treat Joss like a priceless hothouse orchid.)
No, Carly demands that treatment of Michael and she might demand that treatment of Joss if it came down to it.
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On 10/2/2024 at 4:45 PM, Jaded said:
GH isn't Days of Our Lives either...🤣
If anyone here was watching Days when Chelsea, Stephanie and Max were around they'll get what I mean. Max was interested in two of his adoptive nieces. The three of them didn't grow up around each other. Not that it made things any better.Ah, one of Lucas first storylines on this show was a love triangle involving him and his adopted cousins Maxie and Georgie. Whatever the girls feel towards their biodad Frisco, his brother Tony was their uncle through and through, especially after he and Bobbie allowed Maxie to have BJ's heart, and Lucas was raised by Tony and Bobbie since he was a baby. That storyline was so weird, I was relieved he came out as gay; chalk up his inapprioate feels towards his cousins was him unable to come to terms with being gay as a teen.
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3 hours ago, lilabennet said:
I was referring to Emily, Nik, Laura, and Bobbie.
Bobbie was “curated” because Liz was freaked out after she was rape and Bobbie was a medical professional. Maybe because the writing had more depth, but the first iteration of LnL2 was only a couple years. She formed other relationships outside of the 4 Musketeers, especially when she became a nurse in 2005. Yes, Lucky had issues with Patrick and Jason(especially when he was high as a kite), but he didn’t police her friendships, especially with other women like Robin and Ephinany. Plus, when Emily took sides, it was mostly on Liz’s, especially when it involved her asshole brother Jason.
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45 minutes ago, Grinaldi said:
Between recasting with an older actor and bringing Lucas back to the canvas make me think they are gearing up for a real coming out/romance story for Aiden.
If it is with Lucas, that would be gross, not only because he is related through adoption, but because Lucas is so much older.
@KerleyQyou read my mind.
Again, why couldn’t they find an actor that is younger than the actors that play his older brothers? Chucky the tv series managed to portray a young gay teen storyline that was age appropriate and tame featuring under sixteen year old actors, and that show is one of the goriest shows ever.
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Episode Discussion II: The TFGH
in General Hospital
AJ would never do to Michael what Drew has done. Never.
I think the better option would be Shiloh back from the dead theory.
My pet theory is that the devil periodically comes to Sonny, masquerinding as various lost loved ones, like Morgan and Mike, or in the some f*cked up bastardization of "It's a Wonderful Life" in the early aughts, where Luke as Clarence in a Fan February episode. He wants Sonny, but the devil also wants to torture Port Charles with Sonny destructive behavior.
This show really gives shitty messages to the audience. Also, him killing AJ was the tip of the ice berg for all the shitty things Sonny did to AJ. It is why people in prison love Sonny (true story). If this was 90s or even 80s, Jason choosing to believe Sonny's version of the events like some brain dead moron would lead to a storyline where it becomes obvious that Jason has been throughly groomed & he has no where to go, but I think TIIC want us to think this is some beautiful friendship. Of course, they also edited out that AJ went after Ava because he found out she killed Kate Howard and framed him. Unlike Sonny or Carly, AJ actually cared about whether or not he killed Kate, even if he didn't like her.